mojojojo101 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 hour ago, BaylorCorvette said: Not so much a rumor as it is a trend I see. So with aethergold for KO, aetherquartz for LRL & Urgold for Fyreslayers I wonder if we will see something somewhat similar for Gravelords? I would love to see a "Blood Reserve" that Soulblight key word units use similar to KO or LRL. Maybe it throws them into a frenzy to re-roll hits, re-roll spell rolls, re-roll charges, etc. Each Soulblight key word unit gets 1 (maybe 2 depending on blood line / sub allegiance) per game. So it wouldn't be useable for zombies or skeletons just the vamps. Surely would work better thematically as a currency you earn from murdering enemy units, rather than start with as a resource you spend. You kill something, you drink its blood, you get more powerful... seems about right for a vampire to me. FWIW I had an idea a few weeks ago where the vampires would be able to kill their own units to trigger an effect like this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 uhh has this ever happened to the store before? I tried checking out New & Exclusives. My shortcut loaded to the Bastiladon page first, but I can't get to any pages now. Part of me wants to think they caught an accidental leak 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talas Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 23 minutes ago, CommissarRotke said: link? that sounds... ehh. I'd rather see an underused aesthetic like Mesopotamia or Persia or literally anything besides French Knights But Fantasy. He starts talking about it at the 20 minute mark: https://www.twitch.tv/thehonestwargamer/video/962457604 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmaug Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 I have to admit, with my primary (and favorite) army being Orruk Warclans, my secondary army being a LoN Soulblight/Nighhaunt mix, and my final army being slaves to darkness, 2021 is shaping up to be a great year, except for my poor wallet. I love me some vampires, and cant wait to see what my centerpiece coven throne and vamp lord of zombie D get in the new battletome. Belakor is purely magnificent, and if Brodd's right about AOS 3 being Destruction, its going to be like Christmas all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotAWzrd Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Regarding that 3.0 rumour, Stormcast already have Knight-Questors, so it’s not a massive leap for them to build out a chamber around that idea. Also recently there have been a lot of old school cavalry units being brought out. New Chaos Knights, Kavalos Deathriders, Vanari Dawnriders and now Blood Knights. Stormcast could definitely get something similar, that differentiates enough from Dracoths, Dracolines and Gryph-Chargers. I never liked the Bretonia aesthetic personally but I think a lot of the themes and personality they had could be the basis for a cool Stormcast chamber. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinlvalentine Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Talas said: He starts talking about it at the 20 minute mark: https://www.twitch.tv/thehonestwargamer/video/962457604 Huge pinch of salt required here IMO considering he then goes on to say he thinks AoS 3.0 is going to be Citadel making AoS as close to Warhammer Fantasy mechanically and narratively as possible as a ****** you to Forge World for the success of The Old World, a game that hasn't even come out yet. I'm not familiar with this guy generally or how reliable he is but he sure seems to be talking some hot nonsense on this stream. I could see a new chamber/reimagined Warrior Chamber of more knightly-styled Stormcast. To be honest you could argue Sacrosanct were a bit that with the tabards and stuff, and it just seems like a natural theme to explore with a faction that's made up of essentially armoured knights. But explicitly Bretonnian-themed? No way. People always seem to see this stuff through an Old World lense, regardless of how it's actually intended - see all the people who were convinced Bonereapers were going to be Tomb Kings just because they're an army of bone constructs. Edited March 25, 2021 by robinlvalentine 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikester1487 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 I'm not opposed to horses with stormcast it just needs to be mixed with something. The great thunder horse bears of azyr shall ride again. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmaug Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, robinlvalentine said: Huge pinch of salt required here IMO considering he then goes on to say he thinks AoS 3.0 is going to be Citadel making AoS as close to Warhammer Fantasy mechanically and narratively as possible as a ****** you to Forge World for the success of The Old World, a game that hasn't even come out yet. I'm not familiar with this guy generally or how reliable he is but he sure seems to be talking some hot nonsense on this stream. Aren't Games workshop and Forgeworld different halves of the overall same company? Or is Forgeworld truly its own seperate entity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, robinlvalentine said: Huge pinch of salt required here IMO considering he then goes on to say he thinks AoS 3.0 is going to be Citadel making AoS as close to Warhammer Fantasy mechanically and narratively as possible as a ****** you to Forge World for the success of The Old World, a game that hasn't even come out yet. I'm not familiar with this guy generally or how reliable he is but he sure seems to be talking some hot nonsense on this stream. I mean, who knows how much value this rumor has, but the reasoning goes like this: - citadel knows that the old world is coming and that it threatens to steal some of their player base / money their players would spend on AoS - if you work at citadel, you get bonuses / promotions / etc on the basis of your financial results (AoS) NOT on the results of FW (who makes The Old World) - knowing this, your rational strategy will be to cover the ground to prevent the loss of revenue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talas Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 And he thinks that's the reason that the new Soulblight Gravelords look so much like the Vampire Counts of old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandlemad Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Seems like some shoddy reasoning wrapped up in his own preferences. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratboy genius Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, sandlemad said: Seems like some shoddy reasoning wrapped up in his own preferences. A good 90% of rumors is this, if the number is that low. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinlvalentine Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, Marcvs said: I mean, who knows how much value this rumor has, but the reasoning goes like this: - citadel knows that the old world is coming and that it threatens to steal some of their player base / money their players would spend on AoS - if you work at citadel, you get bonuses / promotions / etc on the basis of your financial results (AoS) NOT on the results of FW (who makes The Old World) - knowing this, your rational strategy will be to cover the ground to prevent the loss of revenue I get what he's saying but it sounds like some very spurious 4D chess to me. Apart from anything else it's based on the idea of The Old World being some huge success - maybe it will be, but we're currently so far out from that that we don't even know what kind of game it is yet, let alone how popular it might be. Would Citadel really make huge decisions about both the Age of Sigmar model range and the rules based on their fear of a game that's still years away? And what kind of larger strategy does that end up being, if GW as a whole ends up having two separate games in separate universes that overlap more and more year by year? I think Occam's Razor here suggests that the more likely explanation for AoS having more Warhammer Fantasy influences lately is just that a) the designers probably have a fondness for it like the fans do, b) have now been operating for a few years under a management that is rather less hostile to Warhammer Fantasy, and c) may be reacting somewhat to the very vocal parts of the community who are still very pro-Fantasy and anti-AoS, hoping to please everyone. To go from that to 'AoS 3.0 is going to be Bretonnians vs classic Orcs & Goblins with rules as close to Warhammer Fantasy as possible' seems like an enormous leap to me. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefang Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Bretonnian-themed Stormcast riding beasts from various realms sounds cool and nice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandlemad Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Ratboy genius said: A good 90% of rumors is this, if the number is that low. Yeah but in this case it's assuming a concerted effort on the part of GW design studio staff to steer AoS in a particular direction in terms of rules/aesthetics/background specifically because of perceived internal competition by another part of GW, whose product (a completely different kind of game) is very obviously aimed at a different sort of crowd and is clearly receiving a different level of investment from GW. Moreover this direction would be moving away from the successes of AoS 2.0 in favour of... some pretty vague and nebulous traits. Horses. 'Old school' aesthetics. Refreshing older armies (as though that wasn't already happening). Specifically so a handful of people can get their bonuses and ****** over what he thinks is their 'rival'. Anyone who knows anything about FW knows that they're something of a muddled body, maybe even a spent force, so it's not like they're a grand threat. GW's a starlingly sloppily run company, you can find a dozen examples of that, but this isn't how decisions get made, especially when they're onto something like a winner. It's braindead, there's so much woolliness and so many jumps in reasoning. I like some of Symes's stuff but this is conspiracy thinking. Edited March 25, 2021 by sandlemad 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeElectrid Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 I assume when people say “Brettonian” style SCE they mean conceptually: heroic knights who go on crusades against monsters, are powered by their faith, have their own heraldry, and lord it over the common folk, and not a direct replica. In many respects SCE are halfway there already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleb Daark Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Talas said: As an addition to the 3.0 rumors, Rob from The Honest Wargamer just said in their podcast that the new Stormcasts will be "Bretonnia" themed. there had better be a Johan model with a chest on his back and carrying a pair of coconut halves accompanying every ka-niggit that's all I can say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svalack Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) I'm struggling to visualize this as miniatures, the original stormcast chamber already has sword/hammer with shield troops, 2handed knights. Bow archers. Mounted knights, priests, heroes, a big dragon etc. All i could think is there would be lesser versions? Like peasants but then those aren't real stormcast they would be cities of sigmar surely. More mounted ones? they have so many with different options already Edited March 25, 2021 by Svalack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloth_Corfiser Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 In the Beasts of Chaos Battletome there was the mention of a Progenitor to all Beastmen. Could it be that Kragnos is that Progenitor? Far fetched I know, however "my people are gone" could mean that the Beastmen are Worshipping the Chaos Gods and not Kragnos the Godbeast. anyway, just my two cents 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boar Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 hour ago, robinlvalentine said: Huge pinch of salt required here IMO considering he then goes on to say he thinks AoS 3.0 is going to be Citadel making AoS as close to Warhammer Fantasy mechanically and narratively as possible as a ****** you to Forge World for the success of The Old World, a game that hasn't even come out yet. I'm not familiar with this guy generally or how reliable he is but he sure seems to be talking some hot nonsense on this stream. Bretonian Stormcast are rumor from some external source. The rest is just his hot take, not 100% serious. Two different things 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmc78 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, Aloth_Corfiser said: In the Beasts of Chaos Battletome there was the mention of a Progenitor to all Beastmen. Could it be that Kragnos is that Progenitor? Far fetched I know, however "my people are gone" could mean that the Beastmen are Worshipping the Chaos Gods and not Kragnos the Godbeast. anyway, just my two cents I like this a lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Gothmaug said: I have to admit, with my primary (and favorite) army being Orruk Warclans, my secondary army being a LoN Soulblight/Nighhaunt mix, and my final army being slaves to darkness, 2021 is shaping up to be a great year, except for my poor wallet. I love me some vampires, and cant wait to see what my centerpiece coven throne and vamp lord of zombie D get in the new battletome. Belakor is purely magnificent, and if Brodd's right about AOS 3 being Destruction, its going to be like Christmas all year. Mate I sure hope so!! I love all Destruction and Orruks are in dire need of love. 19 minutes ago, Aloth_Corfiser said: In the Beasts of Chaos Battletome there was the mention of a Progenitor to all Beastmen. Could it be that Kragnos is that Progenitor? Far fetched I know, however "my people are gone" could mean that the Beastmen are Worshipping the Chaos Gods and not Kragnos the Godbeast. anyway, just my two cents I. LOVE. THIS. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfhead Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 When I hear bretonnian stormcast I’d imagine it more like the grail relique and peasants fighting under the golden boys. A mix of the crazy devotion to sigmar and the devotion to grail knights. Having stormcasts as the elite knights, followed by a rabble of regular humans, praising them every step of the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmc78 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, elfhead said: When I hear bretonnian stormcast I’d imagine it more like the grail relique and peasants fighting under the golden boys. A mix of the crazy devotion to sigmar and the devotion to grail knights. Having stormcasts as the elite knights, followed by a rabble of regular humans, praising them every step of the way. Covenant Chamber maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Beasties Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 On 4/20/2016 at 9:43 AM, The Jabber Tzeentch said: Rumour: Bretonnian, Tomb Kings and more factions Type: New sculpt models Date expected: Unknown Contents: New factions for Age of Sigmar. Possibly Free People, tomb kings and Wanderers factions. Wardancers specifically mentioned. Source: TheInsider via Faeit 212 Estimated cost: Unknown I would like to point out that Bretonnia in AoS is one of the oldest rumors out there, I don't believe a word of it without tangible proof. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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