The Rumour Thread

[Vasshpit]

@Souleater It would made a fantastic centerpiece model for Bonesplitterz!

Bring along the Troggoth Hag as well!!

[Grim Beasties]

Sad to hear the Idol is sold out and hope we get a plastic Idol one day, I've been converting my own for a while now. 

Edit: still up for sale in Canada,

Edited February 16, 2021 by Grim Beasties

[alghero81]

Retired FW models are still legal in AoS anyway... you just can’t buy new models anymore but usually you can find something second-hand or convert yours. 
Problem of FW models is that best case scenario the warscroll gets a keyword that allows some sort of usability but they are almost never synergistic.

The Troggoth Hag is desperately required in a Troggherd as it’s so poor of heroes most new scenarios they will struggle even more. Hope one day they will get one supported by GW so that it may appear in a battalion... Same for Squig artillery and colossal Squig.

[zilberfrid]

3 hours ago, alghero81 said:

Retired FW models are still legal in AoS anyway... you just can’t buy new models anymore but usually you can find something second-hand or convert yours. 
Problem of FW models is that best case scenario the warscroll gets a keyword that allows some sort of usability but they are almost never synergistic.

The Troggoth Hag is desperately required in a Troggherd as it’s so poor of heroes most new scenarios they will struggle even more. Hope one day they will get one supported by GW so that it may appear in a battalion... Same for Squig artillery and colossal Squig.

I would advise against purchasing Forgeworld until they have the decency to do any communication regarding what is in production or not.

Someone in Canada might not have a clue that the Rogue Idol has already been dumped, and will have an overpriced pile of rocks in the mail (Rogue Idol looking like an afternoon's work starting from scratch in foam doesn't help).

Because what is not in production will be Legends within a year.

Forgeworld never had any effort put into AoS. Warscrolls were made once, not too well and most haven't been updated to AoS 2, or even keyworded halfway useful.

Edited February 17, 2021 by zilberfrid

[Joseph Mackay]

5 minutes ago, zilberfrid said:

I would advise against purchasing Forgeworld until they have the decency to do any communication regarding what is in production or not.

Someone in Canada might not have a clue that the Rogue Idol has already been dumped, and will have an overpriced pile of rocks in the mail (Rogue Idol looking like an afternoon's work starting from scratch in foam doesn't help).

Because what is not in production will be Legends within a year.

Forgeworld never had any effort put into AoS. Warscrolls were made once, not too well and still haven't been updated to AoS 2, or even keyworded halway useful.

Although I agree with the majority of this, warscrolls were updated with relevant armies book release (Dread Saurian, Squig Gobba etc)

[Kyriakin]

30 minutes ago, zilberfrid said:

I would advise against purchasing Forgeworld until they have the decency to do any communication regarding what is in production or not.

Someone in Canada might not have a clue that the Rogue Idol has already been dumped, and will have an overpriced pile of rocks in the mail (Rogue Idol looking like an afternoon's work starting from scratch in foam doesn't help).

Because what is not in production will be Legends within a year.

Forgeworld never had any effort put into AoS. Warscrolls were made once, not too well and still haven't been updated to AoS 2, or even keyworded halway useful.

Exactly.

Forgeworld is a disgrace. Happy to sell people models at a premium, and yet refuse to give them any keywords to make them usable and then remove them from the game entirely - with no prior warning. Any attempt from LoA players this past half-decade for clarity has been met with generic stock responses or, worse still, radio silence. Then *poof*, they're gone. Thanks for the thousand dollars though, suckers...

If it wasn't for those players who have remaining FW armies (i.e. Death Korps, etc.) and the continued employment of their creative staff, I wish the company would just disappear forever.

Edited February 17, 2021 by Kyriakin

[Twisted Firaun]

4 minutes ago, Kyriakin said:

Exactly.

Forgeworld is a disgrace. Happy to sell people models at a premium, and yet refuse to give them any keywords to make them usable and then remove them from the game entirely - with no prior warning. Any attempt from LoA players this past half-decade for clarity has been met with auto-responses or radio silence. Then *poof*, they're gone. Thanks for the thousand dollars though, suckers...

If it wasn't for those players who have remaining FW armies (i.e. Death Korps, etc.) and the continued employment of their creative staff, I wish the company would just disappear forever.

Speaking as a fan of the Legion but was too afraid of something like this.... I have to agree with you.

[Ogregut]

6 hours ago, eciu said:

Seeing the price of new KillTeam I'm worried that WHQ price might not be a rumor.....

Where is the price announced? 

[zilberfrid]

46 minutes ago, Joseph Mackay said:

Although I agree with the majority of this, warscrolls were updated with relevant armies book release (Dread Saurian, Squig Gobba etc)

Edited, forgot about those.

25 minutes ago, Kyriakin said:

Exactly.

Forgeworld is a disgrace. Happy to sell people models at a premium, and yet refuse to give them any keywords to make them usable and then remove them from the game entirely - with no prior warning. Any attempt from LoA players this past half-decade for clarity has been met with generic stock responses or, worse still, radio silence. Then *poof*, they're gone. Thanks for the thousand dollars though, suckers...

If it wasn't for those players who have remaining FW armies (i.e. Death Korps, etc.) and the continued employment of their creative staff, I wish the company would just disappear forever.

Forgeworld makes some nice stuff for Necromunda (though at GW hero prices), but their treatment of AoS has been appalling.

[eciu]

2 hours ago, Ogregut said:

Where is the price announced? 

160$

[Nezzhil]

6 hours ago, alghero81 said:

Retired FW models are still legal in AoS anyway... you just can’t buy new models anymore but usually you can find something second-hand or convert yours. 
Problem of FW models is that best case scenario the warscroll gets a keyword that allows some sort of usability but they are almost never synergistic.

The Troggoth Hag is desperately required in a Troggherd as it’s so poor of heroes most new scenarios they will struggle even more. Hope one day they will get one supported by GW so that it may appear in a battalion... Same for Squig artillery and colossal Squig.

The Fimirs are not legal, any of the Incarnates are legal... The legality of the Idol will be removed in the next Big FaQs as always happened before.

[Ogregut]

40 minutes ago, eciu said:

160$

Is that confirmed? 

I can only seem to find it on the click bait hell of a site that is spiky bits doing their normal thing of reporting guesses and opinions as fact, I really resented clicking into the site but couldn't find it reported anywhere else. 

[alghero81]

1 hour ago, Nezzhil said:

The Fimirs are not legal, any of the Incarnates are legal... The legality of the Idol will be removed in the next Big FaQs as always happened before.

Let me disagree on this. The only purge on FW models happened in GHB 2020, the chaos mammoth was a valid model all the way until 2020 despite not being sold for most of AoS life.

Legends was not even properly introduced in the GHB before 2020. And while it may have created a trend, it is also highly possible that they will keep the trend to forget updating FW warscrolls for few more years and keep them legal.

In saying that I agree in saying they are a risky purchase, models not particularly more attractive than the existing models for most armies (with few exceptions) and it’s a pity because in some armies they represent a niche that could be played if it had better support.

For example the Squig artillery is the only artillery available for Gitz, does not need LoS and if did a bit more damage, or was included in the Squigalanche would be a nice option. 
The Mourngul is a decent enough model and his -1 to hit combined with the ignore rend of Nighthaunt makes him also useful in certain situations, he is just not pointed correctly for what he does now..

[HorticulusTGA]

Wait. What with that heavy-handed hatred of Forge World ?

You know they have been reorganized into the first galactic emp.. into the Specialist Games Studio for a while, right ? 

They will "only" produce things for Horus Heresy (AT and AI), Necromunda, BloodBowl, Middle Earth (quasi separate team) and The Old World. 

The rules for the relatively few AOS (WFB) / 40k things they still produce are made by the Core Studio of those respective games (either as compendium or as Legends), so no need to rage against FW for that. As they are now Specialist Games, better treat everything not SG-related as already on Last Chance To Buy.

[elfhead]

2 hours ago, Ogregut said:

Is that confirmed? 

I can only seem to find it on the click bait hell of a site that is spiky bits doing their normal thing of reporting guesses and opinions as fact, I really resented clicking into the site but couldn't find it reported anywhere else. 

Check war-of-sigmar. They have the leaked prices. They often post leaked stuff like this, although sometimes they are a bit late. 
 

I would be really disappointed if the new quest game will be significantly more pricier then the last editions. I’m hoping it will be something like €125... 

[zilberfrid]

22 minutes ago, HorticulusTGA said:

Wait. What with that heavy-handed hatred of Forge World ?

You know they have been reorganized into the first galactic emp.. into the Specialist Games Studio for a while, right ? 

They will "only" produce things for Horus Heresy (AT and AI), Necromunda, BloodBowl, Middle Earth (quasi separate team) and The Old World. 

The rules for the relatively few AOS (WFB) / 40k things they still produce are made by the Core Studio of those respective games (either as compendium or as Legends), so no need to rage against FW for that. As they are now Specialist Games, better treat everything not SG-related as already on Last Chance To Buy.

I personally don't like that they do not communicate clearly about that. We can gather that from them removing stuff, but certainly Chaos dwarves have been in limbo for quite a while.

Even after removal of the whole faction, I haven't seen any communication about it.

[Still-young]

42 minutes ago, HorticulusTGA said:

Wait. What with that heavy-handed hatred of Forge World ?

You know they have been reorganized into the first galactic emp.. into the Specialist Games Studio for a while, right ? 

They will "only" produce things for Horus Heresy (AT and AI), Necromunda, BloodBowl, Middle Earth (quasi separate team) and The Old World. 

The rules for the relatively few AOS (WFB) / 40k things they still produce are made by the Core Studio of those respective games (either as compendium or as Legends), so no need to rage against FW for that. As they are now Specialist Games, better treat everything not SG-related as already on Last Chance To Buy.

It’s the other way round, as far as I know. Specialist Games is part of Forge World. The 40k and AoS teams handle rules for FW models, but I don’t think that precludes new models for those games being made by FW. 

[Bademeister]

The silhouette of the guy in the middle is the "wolf"* sitting on the throne in the Ulfenkarn Video at 0:13.

It was called Wolf at the end of the video 0:44.

[silverstu]

2 hours ago, elfhead said:

Check war-of-sigmar. They have the leaked prices. They often post leaked stuff like this, although sometimes they are a bit late. 
 

I would be really disappointed if the new quest game will be significantly more pricier then the last editions. I’m hoping it will be something like €125... 

Yeah if it was just models I'd be annoyed if it was too pricey but if they include plastic terrain at a higher price point I could see value in that. 

[Ogregut]

49 minutes ago, silverstu said:

Yeah if it was just models I'd be annoyed if it was too pricey but if they include plastic terrain at a higher price point I could see value in that. 

The current kill team box is €122.97  and £95 and the new one will be €125, so around £95-£100. 

I don't forsee the new quest being much more expensive than Blackstone fortress unless there is plastic terrain. 

Don't forget everyone was worried that the new bloodbowl was going to be super expensive and it didn't turn out to be that much more considering it comes with more models. 

[Beliman]

16 minutes ago, Ogregut said:

The current kill team box is €122.97  and £95 and the new one will be €125, so around £95-£100. 

I don't forsee the new quest being much more expensive than Blackstone fortress unless there is plastic terrain. 

Don't forget everyone was worried that the new bloodbowl was going to be super expensive and it didn't turn out to be that much more considering it comes with more models. 

I expect (and hope)  something like that.

[Neil Arthur Hotep]

New Broken Realms story:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/v81iF528MFakrqsB.pdf

[alghero81]

5 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:

New Broken Realms story:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/v81iF528MFakrqsB.pdf

That is amazing, just read it. What do you guys think?

[Neil Arthur Hotep]

5 minutes ago, alghero81 said:

That is amazing, just read it. What do you guys think?

I'm going to place my bets and say this is the start of the rise of Soulblight Gravelords. I think we are looking at the beginning of the narrative that will ultimately lead to Nagash losing his complete dominion over Death.

EDIT: The Winged Shadow could be the same creature that rescued Ven Brecht. And Ven Brecht's background is full of vampire stuff. I think that lends a bit of credence to this idea.

Edited February 17, 2021 by Neil Arthur Hotep

[Ogregut]

Just now, alghero81 said:

That is amazing, just read it. What do you guys think?

Loved it, best one yet! 

Raises so many questions!