willange Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, EccentricCircle said: To be fair I've never seen one in real life. The pose has always looked quite awkward to me, but no one I game with has one, so I've made no particular study of it. Looking at the images on the webstore properly I agree that its pretty dragonny, so am happy to retract my criticism! Well and I'll make no claim that it's a perfect dragon either, just a good one. I really was just curious what design-space you would like to see explored for dragons in AoS. There's certainly a lot they could do with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleser Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Apparently there is new Broken Realms fiction, anyone can share with me. Somehow I am not getting them in mails. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaylorCorvette Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I may be a bit biased since my favorite lore is Vampire/Soulblight but the Vampire Lord on Zombie Dragon is one of my favorite Dragon sculpts from GW. Sure it isn't traditional fantasy dragon, being that it is dead and all but I love the idea of bringing a Dragon back from the dead to use as a mount / warrior beast. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetaphoricDragon Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, Aleser said: Apparently there is new Broken Realms fiction, anyone can share with me. Somehow I am not getting them in mails. Thanks https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/CmzAjxJFtw8uKzTa.pdf Quote The newly-forged and fragile alliance between the Idoneth Deepkin and Daughters of Khaine is put to the test, as a combined raiding party fights together on the Charrwind Coast. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorticulusTGA Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Interesting story ! Spoiler Between the big artwork of Teclis in the last WarCom article about Broken Realms, the fact the series was apparently more or less described to be aelf-themed, and the presence of a Lumineth in the book, it's very plausible the next book will be called Broken Realms : Teclis if it is not titled "something Slaanesh" (it should still feature Slaanesh forces or a new battletome coming alongside it against Teclis & Co, of course)... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willange Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 So spoiler for the latest story in the hidden bit but: Spoiler What happened at the end there? It was so vague I couldn't tell if the Idoneth turned on the Khainite or what. Am I just dumb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiagoma Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 And once more a mention to a Lumineth "Swordmaster" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, willange said: So spoiler for the latest story in the hidden bit but: Reveal hidden contents What happened at the end there? It was so vague I couldn't tell if the Idoneth turned on the Khainite or what. Am I just dumb? no, Nemmetar wanted to kill them all (DoK) bit did not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, MetaphoricDragon said: https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/CmzAjxJFtw8uKzTa.pdf Legend!! Cant wait to read this on my break at work!! I'm so happy that Slaneesh is getting this wave of update and truly hope the next AOS Faction to get one to be Fyreslayers and Orruk Warclans. I really want them to start going all out with Fyreslayers and I've always loved the notion that Orruks get more massive so I'd love to see some truly monstrous sized Warboss the size of Ghazghul but instead of the size being all armour it's just pure muscle. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Well looks like IDK are also going to be straining their relationship within Order more with their uneasy alliance with Morathi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Never trust an elf. - Garithos. 5 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: Never trust an elf. - Garithos. Especially if it's on a shelf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) I do love that it is a fractious alliance. Not everyone is all for it, I wonder if the Idoneth in the end will turn their backs on Morathi if she does something they deem to go too far. Edited December 9, 2020 by KingBrodd 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Let's not forget the Idoneth didn't ally freely with the DoK at all. It was a do or die situation of alliance. I'm sure that they might well wait for Morathi to gain so many new enemies that they can split and run without having to fear her wrath for a few generations at least. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandlemad Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Clan's Cynic said: Never trust an elf. - Garithos. Nothing makes relations between dwarves and elves look sunny and well-meaning more than relations between elves and other elves. 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverchosen Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I could be misreading the whole situation but I truly feel as though they are narratively developing the idea that the various alliances will be fractured going forward as the Idoneth will likely split into those that support Morathi and those who oppose. Through that I would imagine that we may get narrative justification of the Idoneth allying with the Lumineth. Teclis may resolve some of their past issues with the Idoneth that oppose Morathi. I think that is the type of thing I like to see in the lore is examples of contentions in and between individual armies. Why do the Seraphon fight each other or against Storm Cast? Why may a Daughter's of Khaine player show up with a unit of Namarti Reavers and their opponent with Lumineth have a contingent of Morrsarr Guard? I think it is flavouring for the game but also not writing lines in the sand... Of course where we have left things off has currently placed deeper lines in the sand but I am confident they are building to something interesting like this in the long run... Personally I feel like Idoneth are the perfect army to play with such narratives as they have such a spectacular and eerie postion within the lore. It is hard to trust urban legends that make off with souls but they are also very tragic and doing it to survive... Such a cool faction. 😇 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataphract Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Neverchosen said: I could be misreading the whole situation but I truly feel as though they are narratively developing the idea that the various alliances will be fractured going forward as the Idoneth will likely split into those that support Morathi and those who oppose. Through that I would imagine that we may get narrative justification of the Idoneth allying with the Lumineth. Teclis may resolve some of their past issues with the Idoneth that oppose Morathi. I think that is the type of thing I like to see in the lore is examples of contentions in and between individual armies. Why do the Seraphon fight each other or against Storm Cast? Why may a Daughter's of Khaine player show up with a unit of Namarti Reavers and their opponent with Lumineth have a contingent of Morrsarr Guard? I think it is flavouring for the game but also not writing lines in the sand... Of course where we have left things off has currently placed deeper lines in the sand but I am confident they are building to something interesting like this in the long run... Personally I feel like Idoneth are the perfect army to play with such narratives as they have such a spectacular and eerie postion within the lore. It is hard to trust urban legends that make off with souls but they are also very tragic and doing it to survive... Such a cool faction. 😇 An interesting concept. Of the Idoneth the ones most likely to buck the High King are those from Fuethan and Dhom-hain who are restless listening to the Ionrach/like to take Aelf souls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Pretty much every army always had reasons for civil war within GW's system. It makes sense because on the tabletop we end up with civil wars all the time. Some factions are more overt with it - Daughters of Khaine are encouraged to fight each other for supremacy and so that Morathi can ensure that the queens weaken each other so that one will never rise to challenge her. Some are strange - eg Tyrainds fight Tyranids even though there's only one Hive Mind. The theory proposed by Imperial science is that the swarm uses civil war battles as a huge live weapons test; the stronger absorbing the weaker and ensuring that the strongest strains survive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, KingBrodd said: Legend!! Cant wait to read this on my break at work!! I'm so happy that Slaneesh is getting this wave of update and truly hope the next AOS Faction to get one to be Fyreslayers and Orruk Warclans. I really want them to start going all out with Fyreslayers and I've always loved the notion that Orruks get more massive so I'd love to see some truly monstrous sized Warboss the size of Ghazghul but instead of the size being all armour it's just pure muscle. I don’t know. I’d love to see some updated sculpts for the skaven race at first. hated beard- and green-things later-later! Yes-yes, let the skaven take-steal glory for once!! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverchosen Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, Cataphract said: An interesting concept. Of the Idoneth the ones most likely to buck the High King are those from Fuethan and Dhom-hain who are restless listening to the Ionrach/like to take Aelf souls. Yeah I am not certain the direction that this narrative will take maybe more of a hope as I think it would be cool to have the lore better express the reasoning for various alliances within the armies rules. It would be really interesting if the allies only came from certain enclaves allowing some special rules to carry forward. 😮 8 minutes ago, Overread said: Pretty much every army always had reasons for civil war within GW's system. It makes sense because on the tabletop we end up with civil wars all the time. Some factions are more overt with it - Daughters of Khaine are encouraged to fight each other for supremacy and so that Morathi can ensure that the queens weaken each other so that one will never rise to challenge her. Some are strange - eg Tyrainds fight Tyranids even though there's only one Hive Mind. The theory proposed by Imperial science is that the swarm uses civil war battles as a huge live weapons test; the stronger absorbing the weaker and ensuring that the strongest strains survive. Thank you, for the great response but I feel I was not being very clear (although, in truth your response does cover this question to a certain degree). I was more addressing the specifics of alliances that are in direct conflicts with one another. I like the idea of the narrative better exploring why one faction may support two ideologically opposed sides of a conflict. Less of a question of why Khorne fighting Khrone, but of a question of why a unit of Blood Reavers fighting alongside Nurgle will not join alongside the Wrath Mongers fighting alongside Tzeentch. Or why the Nighthaunt in two Legions of Nagash armies fight for the warring Vampire lords as opposed to joining forces against both. As you state there are some obvious cases why this might occur (Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows, only that it flows) but I like the idea of there being ideological splits that allow for certain alliances in opposition to one another. So in the case outlined in my initial post I think it would be cool if certain Idoneth units sided with different opposing gods. As such they would be willing to die fighting for Morathi or Teclis, neither of whom have their best interests in mind, but still may benefit the Idoneth and Aelves in very different manners. I think the increased prominence of Morathi and the eventual return of Malerion really signify a shift in the Order Pantheon being slightly more polarized morally and I would like if allied factions reflected this polarization within the lore. Forgive me if this is a stupid idea as I am full of them. 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golub87 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 42 minutes ago, sandlemad said: Nothing makes relations between dwarves and elves look sunny and well-meaning more than relations between elves and other elves. You just made an enemy for life. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleboda Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 33 minutes ago, Golub87 said: You just made an enemy for life. I think we can all agree that as long as there are fewer living elves and dwarves at the end of each day, it's a win for everyone. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverchosen Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) I know of Four Gods that accept Elves and Dwarves alongside Humans, Ogres and everyone else in the mortal realms in equal measure (they even accept their sci-fi equivalents) ✌️ We also a rat that accepts other rats... 🐭 In terms of potential releases are we vaguely aware of what is coming up for the various systems? We have information on the upcoming 40k Codices, Slaanesh and something vaguely death related, the upcoming Underworlds releases... I don't know much about Necromunda and Bloodbowl but we did get recent releases for both. LOTR and Warcry are slight outliers for potential releases... I am just trying to figure out the most likely candidates for the super fun Advent Calendar. Edited December 10, 2020 by Neverchosen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Skreech Verminking said: I don’t know. I’d love to see some updated sculpts for the skaven race at first. hated beard- and green-things later-later! Yes-yes, let the skaven take-steal glory for once!! Oh yes Skaven!! Furry Squish things between toes!! Yes definitely Skaven need an update, a massive one, Gloomspite and Slaneesh combined levels of updating. I just want to see cool Rat Ogors!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageBoss Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 9 hours ago, BaylorCorvette said: I may be a bit biased since my favorite lore is Vampire/Soulblight but the Vampire Lord on Zombie Dragon is one of my favorite Dragon sculpts from GW. Sure it isn't traditional fantasy dragon, being that it is dead and all but I love the idea of bringing a Dragon back from the dead to use as a mount / warrior beast. I also love the zombie dragon. Though its actually a zombie wyvern despite its name. XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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