BarfAtTheMoon Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Okay totally off the rails speculation, but here's my brain: I got a new model, painted it up, and looked at the rules... Be'Lakor has flavor text: "Be'Lakor's physical form is as insubstantial as the cloying mists of Ulgu..." Is it just me, or does that rumor engine claw, the portrait of Malerion we've seen multiple times, and Be'Lakor share some striking resemblances? Be'Lakor sure does hate the chaos gods. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFJump Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 2 hours ago, BarfAtTheMoon said: Okay totally off the rails speculation, but here's my brain: I got a new model, painted it up, and looked at the rules... Be'Lakor has flavor text: "Be'Lakor's physical form is as insubstantial as the cloying mists of Ulgu..." Is it just me, or does that rumor engine claw, the portrait of Malerion we've seen multiple times, and Be'Lakor share some striking resemblances? Be'Lakor sure does hate the chaos gods. Just a coincidence. Be'lakor worked with Archeon in Wrath of the Everchosen, and is still up to his old tricks of trying to undermine the gods by whispering in Archeon's ear. He has legions of demons under his command with his own army and rules for his legion in the book too. Malerion has been described as having his own forces of elves and is just Malekith fused with his dragon and a new name. Don't see them working together or being related outside of that they're both dark edgy dudes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 7 hours ago, FFJump said: Malekith fused with his dragon and a new name. Are we sure about that? It's a common argument but I never read the original source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raviv Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 The Hammerhal Herald about the Khainite Shadowstalkers implied that they are actually Chaos. If it's a clue, it might mean that Malerion and the Ulgu aelves are indeed a new Chaos faction, and not Order or part of DoK. I still think it might be a deamonic faction composed of mostly huge models like SoB (although it contradicts the regular sized models of the new warband) We might get some answers in 5.5 hours. I'm excited! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuminethMage Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 33 minutes ago, Raviv said: The Hammerhal Herald about the Khainite Shadowstalkers implied that they are actually Chaos. If it's a clue, it might mean that Malerion and the Ulgu aelves are indeed a new Chaos faction, and not Order or part of DoK. I still think it might be a deamonic faction composed of mostly huge models like SoB (although it contradicts the regular sized models of the new warband) We might get some answers in 5.5 hours. I'm excited! The Hammerhal Herald only implied that the maker of the pamphlet thinks that, and has shown that your average Hammerhal citizen doesn’t know much at all, and is often wrong. That’s part of the fun. In the last preview they introduced the warband like this: “Warcry is great for letting us look at the areas of the Mortal Realms that you don’t tend to see anywhere else – and these new additions are no exception. The Khainite Shadowstalkers are the spies that Morathi uses to enforce her will across the realms. Even for a race from a land of shadow and renowned for their innate stealth, these guys are sneaky! They’re like mist in the shadows, only the mist has a poison dagger and a repeater crossbow…These dynamic models hark back to a classic Dark Elf aesthetic from the world-that-was, that of Khaine worshippers like Assassins and Shades.” It’s much more likey that that’s what they are. Likely nothing to do with Malerion and Chaos. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raviv Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 hour ago, LuminethMage said: The Hammerhal Herald only implied that the maker of the pamphlet thinks that, and has shown that your average Hammerhal citizen doesn’t know much at all, and is often wrong. That’s part of the fun. In the last preview they introduced the warband like this: “Warcry is great for letting us look at the areas of the Mortal Realms that you don’t tend to see anywhere else – and these new additions are no exception. The Khainite Shadowstalkers are the spies that Morathi uses to enforce her will across the realms. Even for a race from a land of shadow and renowned for their innate stealth, these guys are sneaky! They’re like mist in the shadows, only the mist has a poison dagger and a repeater crossbow…These dynamic models hark back to a classic Dark Elf aesthetic from the world-that-was, that of Khaine worshippers like Assassins and Shades.” It’s much more likey that that’s what they are. Likely nothing to do with Malerion and Chaos. You're probably right, but speculating is fun anyway 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 hour ago, LuminethMage said: Chaos The whole Malerion & Chaos Rumours was a mistake by an author anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, JackStreicher said: The whole Malerion & Chaos Rumours was a mistake by an author anyway. In truth, this msileading rumor was all part of the great horned Rats plan😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuminethMage Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 38 minutes ago, Raviv said: You're probably right, but speculating is fun anyway 😀 Sure, I just didn’t want you to be disappointed - because you mentioned how excited you are about that possibility. : ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcprowlington Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Raviv said: The Hammerhal Herald about the Khainite Shadowstalkers implied that they are actually Chaos. If it's a clue, it might mean that Malerion and the Ulgu aelves are indeed a new Chaos faction, and not Order or part of DoK. I think it was more a nod to how Morathi manipulates order populations into believing her and her people are benevolent. Similar to how she will wipe out order towns for the benefit of her own people and when questioned respond by telling sigmar they had to be cleansed as they were secretly chaos worshippers. This group, being masters of shadow and illusion are being used by Morathi to incite anger and passion in her allies to further the war gainst chaos, the enemy she hates most. Edited August 22, 2020 by Mcprowlington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khadgar567 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 boosting morhati's arsenal is bad move on any ones part as giving more toys to her means she start to shiphon more from others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 The Daughters of Khaine are perhaps as dedicated to the fight against Chaos as Stormcast are. It's a pretty big focus of their religious order as of right now due to the fact that their people were consumed by chaos and Morathi (their great leader) lost out on becoming a goddess because Slaanesh ate her. Not only that he twisted her; deformed her; destroyed her. A vane personality does not take lightly to having her body twisted with a snakes tail; dragon wings and a head of snake-hair. The chances of them ever working, knowingly, for Chaos is basically zero. Sure a smart Chaos force might try and trick them, but otherwise they are religious warriors with a zeal for combat and a focus on defeating Chaos (very specifically Slaanesh). That said with both her and Malarion's forces the Chaos taint is almost welcomed within their asthetic designs. Whilst the "light" aleves and Luminoth have shied away from the vestiges and appearances of the corruption to the body; the Shadow Aleves and DoK have more open acceptance of the taint at a physical level. Thus they have draconic and succubus style units. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) Just over an hour lads and ladettes, make your bets!! Edited August 22, 2020 by KingBrodd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAsPlanned Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 I bet 15 Vials of Aqua Ghyranis and a pouch of Shadeglass that the AoS part of the preview is gonna at least HINT towards Soulblight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPjr Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, KingBrodd said: Just over an hour lads and ladettes, make your bets!! I’ll put a fiver on the usual heady mix of disappointment, anger, wailing & weeping, recriminations, the tearing of clothes, the death of hope & all things good in the world turning to ash, virulent bigotry in the comment stream & a new Primaris lieutenant. 3 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Just now, JPjr said: I’ll put a fiver on the usual heady mix of disappointment, anger, wailing & weeping, recriminations, the tearing of clothes, the death of hope & all things good in the world turning to ash, virulent bigotry in the comment stream & a new Primaris lieutenant. I think we have a bingo! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, JPjr said: I’ll put a fiver on the usual heady mix of disappointment, anger, wailing & weeping, recriminations, the tearing of clothes, the death of hope & all things good in the world turning to ash, virulent bigotry in the comment stream & a new Primaris lieutenant. We have ourselves an Oracle people!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alghero81 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 45 minutes ago, JPjr said: I’ll put a fiver on the usual heady mix of disappointment, anger, wailing & weeping, recriminations, the tearing of clothes, the death of hope & all things good in the world turning to ash, virulent bigotry in the comment stream & a new Primaris lieutenant. I think you are there only 85% but a good try! 5 minutes and bets are still open! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) Ok, now we know that there be more DoK. Edited August 22, 2020 by michu 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellman Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 wath is in the backgrund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 minute ago, michu said: Ok, now we know that there be more DoK. The silhouette at the front, is definitely a past Rumour Engine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Iron was Orlocks. As expected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dekay Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, KingBrodd said: The silhouette at the front, is definitely a past Rumour Engine. Yup. The bead-thing on the staff was certainly there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarfAtTheMoon Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 What about that community article that literally said Malerion was working with "shadow daemons"? Or was that the mistake you were all talking about? I am definitely excited if this preview sheds some light on the situation, but I have a feeling it's just the second wave of Lumineth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, BarfAtTheMoon said: What about that community article that literally said Malerion was working with "shadow daemons"? Or was that the mistake you were all talking about? I am definitely excited if this preview sheds some light on the situation, but I have a feeling it's just the second wave of Lumineth. The mistake was that in one of books Malerion was described as Chaos God which was later corrected. Oh, and more Necrons were shown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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