The Rumour Thread

[silverstu]

10 hours ago, TheCovenLord said:

I know its not a rumor.  But I agree with your first sentence. I want malerion elves as much as the next. But the pace of army releases is leading me to fatigue both financially and excitement-wise. it also makes me a bit wary of the support of those factions where they have been left with very few kits for so many years (fyreslayers, ironjawz, deepkin I am sure there are more) yet they keep adding entire new armies. That being said the new factions have a large number and variety of kits which is very nice (bonedaddies and looking like lumineth had very full ranges on release). I would like to see some revisited support for the smaller factions and some do-overs for the struggling factions (stormcast, Beasts, KO, Khorne etc,).

I'm pretty excited about Warcry war bands for non chaos factions- they look to be very collectable but add to ranges in terms of bits [model wise]- but I don't see them as added as a single unit- they should be smaller, skirmishing/individual models - kind of like how lictors etc work for Nids in 40k. They add a granular element to add detail to forces. But yes a lot of current factions need additional units and models- I look at the ranges and they seem very very shallow [and I'm more of a collector/modeller. Fyreslayers andFEC are particularly suffering, Sylvaneth and DoK aren't great either - I'm still concerned that GW are still pursuing their initially plan with AoS to just continually release new micro factions and just maintain rule support for existing armies. But its still relatively early days [and I really want a Kurnothi army so they need to keep doing new stuff!]. 

9 hours ago, xking said:

A lot of 40k fans really don't like that "consequences" short story over on WH community, looking at 40k facebook comments. You think that they forgot that the Imperium kills it's own soldiers all the time over nothing.

Yeah - I read that story and went "yup" .. and then was surprised to read all the complaints.. 

Interestingly someone on Dakka looked at AoS releases- the unique models for Underworlds and Warcry, the new factions coming out keeping things fresh and wished 40k had that development team.. I do think AoS is more vibrant than 40k at the moment. They should add faction specific war bands for Kill Team and do something similar to Underworlds and they really need to break away from the "Imperium vs Chaos" [although I'm taking the release of the new Xenos Inquistor and storyline as a signal that Xenos are going to step up. AoS is so good because of the 4 big factions, and within them there is good variety- order isn't just Stormcast [which have their place obviously] but includes Flying Dwarfs, Tree people and Fish Elves, Chaos isn't just warriors- its beastmen, daemons, Skaven..

Of course the 40k armies are pretty complete at this stage - which gives GW the problem of where do they go with them.. killteam war bands exploring other angles of the factions would be a starting point.. [and they need to bring back the squats..]

[Beastmaster]

Specialist game releases are not really a solution. They tend to be small basic-infantry like monopose miniatures in groups of 5-10. Not that useful for army building, neither as specialists, nor as battleline or as heroes.

Edited April 23, 2020 by Beastmaster

[michu]

36 minutes ago, Beastmaster said:

Specialist game releases are not really a solution. They tend to be small basic-infantry like monopose miniatures in groups of 5-10. Not that useful for army building, neither as specialists, nor as battleline or as heroes.

Disagree. That new DoK warband for WHU? Cheaper way to get a Hag Queen. KO? Alternate sculpt for Khemist. Same with Skaven Clawlord and Runefather. Maybe not useful for making battleline units but for heroes? Perfect.

[Beastmaster]

31 minutes ago, michu said:

Disagree. That new DoK warband for WHU? Cheaper way to get a Hag Queen. KO? Alternate sculpt for Khemist. Same with Skaven Clawlord and Runefather. Maybe not useful for making battleline units but for heroes? Perfect.

You’re right, some of them  do make great alternative heroes. Which, of course, is always welcome. But is that really the main problem that many people seem to have within their ranges?

 

[BaylorCorvette]

Perhaps some equally extreme thing like the Necroquake will happen, but will effect the control all of the gods have over their followers, etc. Allowing for fallen Stormcast, and Soulblight that aren't ultimately under Nagash's control, etc. I wouldn't be super shocked if sometime in the future this happens.

[LuminethMage]

Well, they are going to release new, proper elves - and gave them magic steroids and magic coffee - so it’s likely that some earth realm shattering ****** is going to happen. Just give the Lumineth a bit of time to warm up. 

[PraetorDragoon]

54 minutes ago, LuminethMage said:

Well, they are going to release new, proper elves - and gave them magic steroids and magic coffee - so it’s likely that some earth realm shattering ****** is going to happen. Just give the Lumineth a bit of time to warm up. 

More like they were given red bull. 

[NkfPanda]

3 hours ago, silverstu said:

Of course the 40k armies are pretty complete at this stage - which gives GW the problem of where do they go with them.. killteam war bands exploring other angles of the factions would be a starting point.. [and they need to bring back the squats..]

Amen to Squats aka Kharadron Overlords. It is funny I would love a Kharadron Overlords style army in 40k but in AOS I want nothing more than real mountain dwarves. I play both games and enjoy both quite a bit but it is weird because I love Fantasy much more than Sci Fi but I enjoy the fleshed out 40k universe so much more than the AOS setting but I enjoy the old WHFB setting much more than both (AOS the game is my favourite to play though). I recently read Court of the Blind King and really loved it and it was the first time besides the short stories that I enjoyed the AOS setting. I am really hoping for something like Soulblight later this year!

As for why all the complains at the latest short story; some people are mad at the writing but complaining  overall are a bunch of Space Marine playing Neckbeards.

[Grimrock]

Yeah I think anyone getting excited for non-chaos warbands to spice up their faction needs to take a long hard look at the current ones. There is very little reason to take any of them, even when summoned on the table for free, and I can only think of a single warband that I would actually pay points for to support a weird mechanic for one sub faction. Also from my experience GW has sculpted them in a way that's almost overtly hostile towards conversions. I got two boxes of the cypher lords and it was an absolute nightmare converting them so I didn't have any duplicate sculpts. I guess it's the cost of their nice dynamic poses, but in the end it means that from a hobby perspective you'll never want more than a single unit on the table anyway. 

I'd be happy if GW learned from these mistakes and improved the new warbands, but I doubt it. They had an opportunity to improve the chaos ones when they released the StD book and didn't take it, and they've had multiple chances to make the underworlds warbands usable but completely wasted those as well.  I don't know if they just don't want to have to balance the extra units or they figure there's no point in trying to sell them to AoS players, but so far they always seem to make them deliberately underpowered to avoid rocking any boats. 

[alghero81]

@Grimrock I agree with you. I said it before, the Warcry war bands are beautiful models but definitely not useful for AoS and if the only new model for your army comes this way it’s almost like you never received any... fodder for conversion or alternative sculpts are not adding anything to an AoS army. 
However for Warcry they are beautiful models and I’m looking forward to see which weird ways they develop the new season.

[Landohammer]

14 hours ago, Aelfric said:

I await with anticipation the first traitor Stormhost.

Thats an interesting concept and would make Stormcast more appealing to many. But I personally hope that GW focuses elsewhere for unit/subfaction expansion. Stormcast were given 50+ units while many factions have less than 15 yet Stormcast remain one of the least popular armies in my region. 

I know subfactions and endless spells were introduced to help diversify smaller armies, but I can't help but wonder why they don't just release more units. Thats why I am holding out hope that the crab-claw rumour engine is in fact an Idoneth Deepkin refresh. Lets just hope that its more than just endless spells + terrain like the Tzeentch and Sylvaneth codexes. I'm getting reeeeeeal tired of those. 

 

 

 

[KingBrodd]

4 hours ago, LuminethMage said:

Well, they are going to release new, proper elves - and gave them magic steroids and magic coffee - so it’s likely that some earth realm shattering ****** is going to happen. Just give the Lumineth a bit of time to warm up. 

Lumineth are definitely going to be a major part in the next big story push. 

[Skreech Verminking]

1 hour ago, KingBrodd said:

Lumineth are definitely going to be a major part in the next big story push. 

Elfs pushing the story forward in the year of the great horned rat!?

Sounds like heresy to me

Edited April 23, 2020 by Skreech Verminking

[elfhead]

4 hours ago, Landohammer said:

(traitor stormiest) Thats an interesting concept 

We already have evil heavy armored knights, chaos warriors.

If I'm not mistaken Space marines were inspired by the succes of chaos warriors, and the succes of space marines probably inspired the creation of stormcasts. I think making traitor stormcast would be very unnecessary. It's also unlikely lore wise.

[Raviv]

Only marginally related to AoS, but take a look at this: https://icv2.com/articles/news/view/45636/the-op-takes-risk-into-grimdark

WH40K Risk. Would you like to see something similar in the AoS setting?

[KingBrodd]

1 hour ago, Skreech Verminking said:

Elfs pushing the story forward in the year of the great horned rat!?

Sounds like heresy to me

I really hope for the Ratmen out there that they get a release of some sort this year. An Underworlds or Warcry Warband in the least.

[Overread]

Skaven already have an Underworld warband!

[Souleater]

All the tiny people look the same to Brodd! 🤣

[novakai]

1 hour ago, Skreech Verminking said:

Elfs pushing the story forward in the year of the great horned rat!?

Sounds like heresy to me

Apparently so, GW skip ahead to year of the Ox with Cow Aelves 

Edit: also Skaven sabatoge themselves by bring on Corona virus on the world and ****** any possible rat release this year anyway

Edited April 23, 2020 by novakai

[Sttufe]

3 minutes ago, novakai said:

Apparently so, GW skip ahead to year of the Ox with Cow Aelves 

Edit: also Skaven sabatoge themselves by bring on Corona virus on the world and ****** any possible rat release this year anyway

Makes sense to me, seems like something that the skaven would do.

[swarmofseals]

19 minutes ago, novakai said:

Apparently so, GW skip ahead to year of the Ox with Cow Aelves 

Ahh, but that's where you go wrong: assuming Lumineth will release this year ><

Too soon?

[Noserenda]

More Idoneth would be awesome, i suspect Ironjawz getting the Savage orcs on board may be all they get for now. I wouldnt be sad if they just forgot all about Fyreslayers and maybe did some Grungi following dwarves or Grimmir dwarves that dont suck. Or Chaos Dwarves, basically any Dwarves but Fyreslayers.

Also some Skaven love would be awesome, especially poor Eshin who have been forgotten since like Mordheim came out but would be perfect for the skirmish games and some awesomely posed rat ninjas Especially as apparently newer Eshin players are resorting to blood bowl teams for want of sufficient Gutter runners without sacrificing a kidney!

[Sttufe]

22 minutes ago, Noserenda said:

More Idoneth would be awesome, i suspect Ironjawz getting the Savage orcs on board may be all they get for now. I wouldnt be sad if they just forgot all about Fyreslayers and maybe did some Grungi following dwarves or Grimmir dwarves that dont suck. Or Chaos Dwarves, basically any Dwarves but Fyreslayers.

Also some Skaven love would be awesome, especially poor Eshin who have been forgotten since like Mordheim came out but would be perfect for the skirmish games and some awesomely posed rat ninjas Especially as apparently newer Eshin players are resorting to blood bowl teams for want of sufficient Gutter runners without sacrificing a kidney!

Hey, KO are Grungni dwarves thank you very much. Not much of it but as close as your gonna get most likely.

[zilberfrid]

1 hour ago, Overread said:

Skaven already have an Underworld warband!

One that's actually in production would be sweet.

[zilberfrid]

29 minutes ago, Noserenda said:

I wouldnt be sad if they just forgot all about Fyreslayers and maybe did some Grungi following dwarves or Grimmir dwarves that dont suck. Or Chaos Dwarves, basically any Dwarves but Fyreslayers.

Valaya dwarves!

As for Fyreslayers, they are a bit same-y. Like Stormcast, but less clothed. GW took a quite singular unit, the slayers, and wanted to make a whole faction from that concept. Though there are a few monsters in it, the source material is slim.

It has a small roster, but when expanded, how will that add visual distinction? More monsters seem the only way to do that and keep it at naked male dwarves.