The Rumour Thread

[King Under the Mountain]

6 minutes ago, BrownDog said:

Is it possible that the daughters of khaine will be rolled into malerions aelfs of ulgu? 

Always a possibility and not unheard of for two factions of the same race (Orcs and Ogres) to be combined in one Battletome.

I'd prefer they stay separate though. 

[JPjr]

@BrownDog funnily enough I was thinking just that. Not sure they would but these new Khainites definitely have a different feel & look to the existing DoK range, though I can see how they hang together as an army.

a kind of snakes to wytches to these ones, so it can still be coherent.

but then we are also starting to occupy the space that we might expect a full Shadow Aelf army to consist of, especially if this is a prelude as such to more models for DoK in this rich bloody vein.

not sure they would but I could see them expanding the range and sharing a kind of middle ground Few units of these new Shdow Aelf types, then you go one way with a DoK general and you get snakes, go the other with Malerion or one of his underlings and you get more shadow creatures and draconic type things.

as I said probably unlikely but it would mean you don’t have to do such a huge range of new models down the line and it staves off a bit of Aelf bloat we’ll have if they do add another full faction.

Would also work in the way with Lumineth it looks like you’ll have Tyronic & Teclian forces, eventually, within the same range.

[Tropical Ghost General]

54 minutes ago, King Under the Mountain said:

Shadow - DoK
Light - Lumineth 
Fire - Fyreslayers (!)
Metal - Kharadron Overlords (!)
Death - Flesh-Eater Courts (or any Death really)
Beasts - Ironjawz (or any Destruction really)
Life - Sylvaneth 
Heavens - Stormcast Eternals

6 out of 8 being Order seems a bit much tbh. 

I think the dark elf warband is a precursor to the long awaited shadow elves, rather than 7/8 new warbands to represent the various realms. But who knows at this point 

[sorokyl]

Okay, first of all, I agree that this preview was amazing. I have never played bloodbowl but now I have to get the halfling and snotling team and build a field and everything just to display. The 40k Minis are great, The primaris spindle drones are... expected, and the 40k minis are awesome.   And I agree that the giant kit is awesome but... 

2 hours ago, Souleater said:

Considering that's just one kit, I am very happy with the different poses.

 

2 hours ago, Drakensgreed said:

The unique posing makes each one stand out a lot

What is everyone talking about?? I think you guys are being fooled by the ol' rotate the model 30 degrees trick. 
There is only 1 set of legs, and the pose is fixed. The shin bit is built in, all 3 models have the same thing just painted different color. There is 1 optional sandal bit you can put on each foot. 
The upper torso is the same on all the models, INCLUDING the shoulder. Meaning the upper arms are always at the same angle in relation to the torso, you only get variety at the elbows. 

 Different abdomen bits allow for slightly different poses of upper torso to legs, but most of what people are seeing is just camera trickery. 

As someone who enjoys building/painting/collecting more than playing, although I was excited about this faction, I can't get more than 1 of these kits. I know organic creatures is a little harder to allow posing than marines and imperial knights, but I Wish GW would have worked a little harder to give us more variety. 

In the photo, i have circled in green the body parts that are the same on all giants.. as you can see, it's most of the giant (which makes sense, because they only decided to develop one kit, they aren't gonna give a ton of extra plastic (GW very stingy with plastic these days thanks to production bottlenecks)

[zilberfrid]

Those snotlings are going to menace my D&D players, and the Cathaler has a nice renaissance beauty that I probably will not be able to resist forever. The giants look nice, not sure if I'm into getting them for myself, but I do like the image of my humans (or even the halfling conversions) going up against these monsters.

[Black_Templar_Lad]

Imagine a Soulblight Warband. A band of Blood Knights or Vampires from different Realms coming together to test their metal against Archaon's best. 😍

Would be a good excuse to give some unique Vampire sculpts.

One day....one day. 

[JPjr]

Also not sure if anyone's pointed this out yet but as well as the Rumour Engine reveals on the Necron, Daddy Spindle Drone and the DoK Warcry war band.

we also got these...

there's also 2 others I think I've got but not 100% sure...

[Black_Templar_Lad]

That Shark like jaw necklace thing would look lovely on a Carcharodon themed Knight!

[ReynakZhen]

1 hour ago, Boytoy said:

i hope they do a devoted of sigmar warband for azyr instead of more stormcast. 

How about, an Order of Azyr warband?

[KingBrodd]

26 minutes ago, JPjr said:

Also not sure if anyone's pointed this out yet but as well as the Rumour Engine reveals on the Necron, Daddy Spindle Drone and the DoK Warcry war band.

we also got these...

there's also 2 others I think I've got but not 100% sure...

These are definitely those rumours.

[Kramer]

3 hours ago, elfhead said:

kinda disappointing to see just one Lumineth model, which we already kinda saw before... I find it a bit frustrating to see another new army before we’ve seen the entire Lumineth range

Well they need to save some reveals to (re)build hype for when they can finally start selling again. 
it apparently hurt the sales quite a bit when the sylvaneth book was delayed and they had already shot all their marketing gold (I vaguely remember from a stormcast) 

so I’m assuming they are saving the last two/three kits to reveal in the lead up to that. 

[Kramer]

1 hour ago, BrownDog said:

Is it possible that the daughters of khaine will be rolled into malerions aelfs of ulgu? 

Why? 
I can see only negatives to it, from GW’s perspective. 
Only thing I can think of is to decrease the production needed for a fully new army.  

[JPjr]

25 minutes ago, KingBrodd said:

These are definitely those rumours

oh yeah those ones I was sure of, but I thought I saw the kind of banged together gut plate thing on one of them when the model span in the video. I'm almost certain it is there, or available as an alternative piece for him, as that model is covered in very similar items but I just don't have a definite fix on it.

The other one was the bit on the end of the makeshift flail that I thought was the kind of pillar rumour we saw but i discounted it as it looked too short. But now I've had another look, it 100% is, it's just the angle on them model pic has foreshortened it whilst conversely the way the rumour engine pic was cropped gave me the impression it was longer. 

 

Edited April 18, 2020 by JPjr

[KingBrodd]

31 minutes ago, JPjr said:

oh yeah those ones I was sure of, but I thought I saw the kind of banged together gut plate thing on one of them when the model span in the video. I'm almost certain it is there, or available as an alternative piece for him, as that model is covered in very similar items but I just don't have a definite fix on it.

The other one was the bit on the end of the makeshift flail that I thought was the kind of pillar rumour we saw but i discounted it as it looked too short. But now I've had another look, it 100% is, it's just the angle on them model pic has foreshortened it whilst conversely the way the rumour engine pic was cropped gave me the impression it was longer. 

 

Oh damn your bang on about the Flail!! It even has the two step lip towards its base.

I wonder if then we will get a King Brodd model? They have name dropped him recently so I wonder if there is still 1 kit we've yet to see? King Brodd/Leader.

[sandlemad]

Those giants are fantastic. Amazing paintjobs too. I think that while you can see they’re all built from the same kit, they’re sufficiently distinguished by their details, gear and poses (poses here being limited to head tilt, arms and general body orientation, mind) that this is far from the GUO (or to a lesser extent the KoS) situation of being slight detail twists on models that are positioned in the same way. More like a stonehorn/thundertusk situation.

What makes them most obviously the same kit to my mind is that (clumsy and rather charming looking) inward orientation of the feet. It’s weird and unique and so stands out for the two that have it.

It’s the Ulgurite Shadowstalker champion that really blows me away through. There’s so much clever stuff going on. They’re an elf but the curve of their shadow/cloak mimics a snake’s tail, very close to the poses of some of the Melusai. The cloak is fading into shadows in similar forms to some of Morathi’s armour and some Dark Eldar weapons (while giving the impression of a juddering, hard to perceive effect, like some sort of visual lag). There’s a contrast between the sophisticated, obviously Witch Elf-y crown and boots, and the crude ritualistic stone/glass dagger and head of the staff.

It’s so good. I don’t like it in the same fashion as the giants, it’s less my thing, but it’s so well done and visually sophisticated. Recognisable links to DoK, old school Dark Elves and some new Ulgurite elements. They do sync with the Mistweaver!

[madmac]

2 hours ago, King Under the Mountain said:

Always a possibility and not unheard of for two factions of the same race (Orcs and Ogres) to be combined in one Battletome.

I'd prefer they stay separate though. 

The trend lately has been souping, so who can say.

OTOH, it could just be a move to expand DoK without covering the same ground as their existing models. Assassins and Executioners and such were always part of the Khainite cults in old Dark Elf lore anyway, and the shadow guy almost looks like the return of the Mistweaver Saih.

[Clan's Cynic]

Have we seen that shield on his stomach before? I know whats-his-name on the stream seemed to veer into referring to it as a 'Stormcast shield' but the closest design is the Prosecutor, but it's not quite the same..

The closest I could thing of was the Knights of the Blazing Sun symbols and Myrmidia is supposedly alive and kickin' in AoS - just pretty much never mentioned outside of one short story. 

Edited April 18, 2020 by Clan's Cynic

[KingBrodd]

So this Black Library banner definitely had the Warstomper on it didnt it? Is this the Battletome cover or a Black Library novel coming soon?

[JackStreicher]

18 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said:

The closest I could thing of was the Knights of the Blazing Sun symbols and Myrmidia is supposedly alive and kickin' in AoS - just pretty much never mentioned outside of one short story. 

 

rip excelsior ^^

[swarmofseals]

I'm seeing some folks suggesting that this latest Lumineth model is the last reveal for the "current" release and we won't see more for at least a year or two, while others are suggesting that there may be more kits coming. Is any of this evidence based or is it all speculation?

[Falkman]

17 minutes ago, swarmofseals said:

I'm seeing some folks suggesting that this latest Lumineth model is the last reveal for the "current" release and we won't see more for at least a year or two, while others are suggesting that there may be more kits coming. Is any of this evidence based or is it all speculation?

Speculation from both sides. The livestream and latest article were both ambiguous enough that both sides think they are right.

[Overread]

Everything is Speculation. What makes it harder is that its clear GW was likely going to launch Luminoth and then at the same time or soon after launch the Giants. The whole shutdown has totally messed up any release plan GW had. So its very hard to make even logical guesses. 

That said when you look at most of the newer armies, Luminoth already have quite a good number for a starting force. A couple of leaders; a giant leader; several mages; a working core of battleline troops (heck they've perhaps got 3 with infantry, ranged and cavalry); then some specialist forces on top. It's right now about the same sort of size release that we saw for Ossiarchs, Daughters of Khiane and a few others. So it could well be the end of the current crop of Luminoth. 

Now GW might have something for 6 months time that they might advance forward to give them something more; they might have things for 6 months time that are now 12 months away etc... It's all very hard to guess at. 

 

 

My gut feeling is that GW could even stick to the old schedual and just double up for a couple of months. Sure stock would be an issue, but GW is going to have stock issues anyway. Thing is stock can eventually be recovered from, esp since GW will have healthy sales. So for non-limited releases GW could just go into production and keep churning stuff out even if some lines remain back ordered for a while. It would let them stick closer to their original release plan; which is important as its likely several years set in motion; suddenly throwing three or four months or more out the window is a big shift. 

[Kirjava13]

Very good preview, especially Necron Boi and the shadow elves, BUT what is up with that one elf's bondage trousers...?

[KingBrodd]

15 minutes ago, Overread said:

Everything is Speculation. What makes it harder is that its clear GW was likely going to launch Luminoth and then at the same time or soon after launch the Giants. The whole shutdown has totally messed up any release plan GW had. So its very hard to make even logical guesses. 

That said when you look at most of the newer armies, Luminoth already have quite a good number for a starting force. A couple of leaders; a giant leader; several mages; a working core of battleline troops (heck they've perhaps got 3 with infantry, ranged and cavalry); then some specialist forces on top. It's right now about the same sort of size release that we saw for Ossiarchs, Daughters of Khiane and a few others. So it could well be the end of the current crop of Luminoth. 

Now GW might have something for 6 months time that they might advance forward to give them something more; they might have things for 6 months time that are now 12 months away etc... It's all very hard to guess at. 

 

 

My gut feeling is that GW could even stick to the old schedual and just double up for a couple of months. Sure stock would be an issue, but GW is going to have stock issues anyway. Thing is stock can eventually be recovered from, esp since GW will have healthy sales. So for non-limited releases GW could just go into production and keep churning stuff out even if some lines remain back ordered for a while. It would let them stick closer to their original release plan; which is important as its likely several years set in motion; suddenly throwing three or four months or more out the window is a big shift. 

I agree with them sticking to their schedule. Why risk having potentially years worth of delays when they could just pump it out for a short while.

 Dropping the Lumineth and Sons together would be smart to make way for their next batch of releases and inevitable announcements.

[ManlyMuppet88]

If there are only 3 models in the Daughters of Khaine warband, it should be easy enough for GW to write them a set of rules for Underworlds too, right!?

Easy money, GW. One kit for 3 games. Just throwing it out there.