The Rumour Thread

[LuminethMage]

1 hour ago, zilberfrid said:

I wouldn't be surprised if there were multiple designers, but they did meet and align some of the decisions.

You and michu are both correct.

In the Lowdowns they have mentioned so far that Seb Perbet is in charge of the whole miniature range for the Lumineth. He made the early mock-ups (that's why the wind blows in the same direction) for the whole range.

But he was also specifically the designer of the Eltharion miniature, while the Danwrider miniatures were done by Neil Langdown. 

[Chikout]

4 hours ago, michu said:

Both made something beautiful. But it could be one guy - for example Maxime Corbeil designed whole Death Guard range IIRC,

You've got the wrong Maxime there. Maxime Pastourel was the lead designer on the Death Guard range but he didn't design every kit. He did a lot of the concept work but other designers were involved. Aly Morrison did the plague Walkers for example. He was also the lead designer for Warcry but again he only sculpted a couple of the warbands himself. 

Seb Perbert has a similar roll for the Lumineth range. He will have done a lot of the concept work and mock ups but he probably only designed a couple of kits.  He probably designed Teclis as he also designed the Eidolons, Alarielle, and Morathi. He also designed the Light of Eltharion. 

All this info comes from the official podcasts. They are actually pretty good. Wade makes a good interviewer. 

On a side note I strongly recommend http://leskouzes.blogspot.com/?m=1 This is the blog of Maxime Pastourel and his friends. The tutorial about the bases for his AoS Khorne army is particularly insane. 

[EccentricCircle]

That's neat. In many ways its a shame that the artists behind the models aren't more prominant. When you look at old catalogues it always says who the sculptor is right by the models, but it seems like these days you do have to scour interviews and try to figure it out yourself. 

[The World Tree]

1 hour ago, EccentricCircle said:

That's neat. In many ways its a shame that the artists behind the models aren't more prominant. When you look at old catalogues it always says who the sculptor is right by the models, but it seems like these days you do have to scour interviews and try to figure it out yourself. 

In some ways it is a shame, in other ways it is good given how dickish the internet can be. I suspect there was a big change after the way Mat Ward was treated on the internet (for rules, not models but the principle remains).

[sandlemad]

16 minutes ago, The World Tree said:

In some ways it is a shame, in other ways it is good given how dickish the internet can be. I suspect there was a big change after the way Mat Ward was treated on the internet (for rules, not models but the principle remains).

I think that’s probably partially it but I suspect it’s also a case of GW actively trying to occlude or diminish the importance of individual designers/sculptors/artists and elevate the GW brand. A bit like how there was that period where they did everything they could to hide author names from BL AoS books because readers should be loyal to or interested in GW and AoS rather than particular (interchangeable, expendable from a particular management point of view) artists.

Edited April 13, 2020 by sandlemad

[EccentricCircle]

16 minutes ago, The World Tree said:

In some ways it is a shame, in other ways it is good given how dickish the internet can be. I suspect there was a big change after the way Mat Ward was treated on the internet (for rules, not models but the principle remains).

True, I wasn't considering how unpleasant some folks can get when they don't personally like something!

[JackStreicher]

Yet, even if different designers are working on the minis: I am rather sure the overall look of the models is set before they start their Z Brush project. Most likely the designers might have a choice concerning poses while the design is already set. =}

Edit: Other approaches simply don‘t seem to be efficient or a good workflow.

Edited April 13, 2020 by JackStreicher

[Chikout]

From listening to the podcasts it seems there are at least three people behind the design of each model. You have the concept artist, the design manager Ben Jefferson, whose role is a bit nebulous, the lead designer who does a lot of mock ups, and the final designer who actually makes the kit. 

These days there is more feedback during the design process from the eavy metal team. 

I don't buy that they are trying to hide the names of the people who make the models. There are constant interviews in the podcasts, on Warhammer and on twitch with the various designers. Far more than there used to be. We don't know how it used to be but it seems like a more collaborative process now. 

[Overread]

GW has had a more collaborative process for a good while I think. Because of their resources they can afford to have artists and designers and modellers and such all with different people working in each role. Meanwhile many smaller firms (majority) will often have someone do a much larger portion all themselves. So the concept art might be far more basic, because they are more a sculptor than sketcher etc...

Feedback from the painting team makes sense, 3D design on a computer can be fantastic, but it can also leave out a lot of the practical hands on application and relation to the model. Thus meaning its possible to produce something with such a high level of detail and intricate segments that it becomes beyond practical as a product to build and paint for the customers. 

[michu]

Posted here for more visibility:

News! Now we know how our book will look! And we can see some rules in these pictures!

https://www.cubicle7games.com/age-of-sigmar-layout-reveal/

[JackStreicher]

1 hour ago, michu said:

Posted here for more visibility:

News! Now we know how our book will look! And we can see some rules in these pictures!

https://www.cubicle7games.com/age-of-sigmar-layout-reveal/

This looks awesome! I love the art! (That liberator really looks amazing with the added short tasset plate

[Sleboda]

11 hours ago, EccentricCircle said:

That's neat. In many ways its a shame that the artists behind the models aren't more prominant. When you look at old catalogues it always says who the sculptor is right by the models, but it seems like these days you do have to scour interviews and try to figure it out yourself. 

I believe, based on conversations within the halls at the time, but nothing official stated, that GW tries to avoid creating celebrities for the most part. If a person gets a big head, they start thinking they are owed more, and that leads to conflicts among artists and issue with the chain of authority at a business.

 

I can see why they try to keep egos in check this way.

Edited April 13, 2020 by Sleboda

[Sleboda]

11 hours ago, EccentricCircle said:

That's neat. In many ways its a shame that the artists behind the models aren't more prominant. When you look at old catalogues it always says who the sculptor is right by the models, but it seems like these days you do have to scour interviews and try to figure it out yourself. 

I believe, based on conversations within the halls at the time, but nothing official stated, that GW tries to avoid creating celebrities for the most part. If a person gets a big head, they start thinking they are owed more, and that leads to conflicts among artists and issue with the chain of authority at a businesses.

 

I can see why they try to keep egos in check this way.

[michu]

2 hours ago, JackStreicher said:

This looks awesome! I love the art! (That liberator really looks amazing with the added short tasset plate

Slight nitpick, That's not a liberator, that's a Knight-Questor - those plates are on the sold model.

[JackStreicher]

Just now, michu said:

Slight nitpick, That's not a liberator, that's a Knight-Questor - those plates are on the sold model.

Ahh yes I see! The other Stormcast is a hero as well (makes sense)

[Chikout]

That's definitely a twin tailed comet. It's probably more Stormcast but I would love a devoted of Sigmar army with a similar aesthetic to the recent 40k sisters. 

[Schulzy]

A Devoted of Sigmar army would be awesome to see and not overly far-fetched considering most of that range was scrubbed.

Though if it is a new chamber, I welcome it! the warrior chamber has basically been made redundant by the sacrosanct chamber and the current battletome has done nothing to bring them in line, though I still have a soft spot for the paladin models.

Now the sacrosanct chamber, whilst the models look awesome, they have grown a little stale and it's tiring seeing the same one competitive shootcast list over and over. Bring on the new power creep hotness!

[Black_Templar_Lad]

What's the name of the new Chamber that is yet to be opened? Is it the Siege specialists? 

[Schulzy]

4 minutes ago, Black_Templar_Lad said:

What's the name of the new Chamber that is yet to be opened? Is it the Siege specialists? 

The Ruination Chamber, though no one really knows what it entails, I think the siege specialist idea is just speculation at this stage.

[Black_Templar_Lad]

Thank you. I hope it is Devoted, I miss Fanatics. 😁

[Juicy]

Hoping new stormcast boek with some other stormhost characters. No new chamber please just update the existing one. Make libs better and paladins. And focus on ethernal balance. And for the sake of sigmar dont make 40mm base models this weak again

[Skreech Verminking]

1 hour ago, xking said:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/04/14/the-rumour-engine-april-14th-2020/

Oh great more stormcast models.

Now we just have to see if it will be another model line with the same traits a liberators sequators etc. Just better, or if it will be an update for all those models that lost their role since , the last chamber 

[Skreech Verminking]

sorry there have been some technical issues, and for some reason I’ve been sending the same thing 3times already😱

Edited April 14, 2020 by Skreech Verminking

[Skreech Verminking]

Srry there has been some technical issues

Edited April 14, 2020 by Skreech Verminking

[KingBrodd]

17 minutes ago, xking said:

If a new Chamber is opening it means something big  is going to happen in the plot/setting.  Stormcast vs ironjaws maybe.

I guess new stormcast model line and updated rule for the old stormcast units. 

Siege of Excelsis. Order VS Destruction. Stormcast and Free Cities against the Orruk Warclans.