The Rumour Thread

[Baron Klatz]

Just now, Juicy said:

I still have some hopes for 2020 sce battletome. With hopes up for some warscroll improvement. Posterboyz need to be better. Since standard libs are dying in front of gw homefront with the slightest breeze 

I love the liberators and the Strike chamber so definitely agreed there. We need lightning pilums they can conjure and hurl into approaching enemy ranks and veteran Retributors that have gone full lightning golem with a selection of supernatural Azyr abilities.

That said i'm not expecting anything until next year with a possible change to 3.0. 

(I am hopeful though that they'll pull something for more Stormcast heroes like a veteran Extremis paladin from the Astral Templars appearing in BeastGrave. A lone crusader on a battle-scarred lightning dragon to fry Sigmar's enemies and claim the realm  of beasts)

[elfhead]

12 hours ago, Overread said:

REMINDER - ALL MEMBERS

 

Only 6 days remain in the painting competition - ending the last day of March. Open to all! 
Includes official prize support from Element Games. 

 

almost done with my entry:)

 

I think it is worth mentioning that there is a price for the winner, but also a Start collecting box for one random competitor. So everyone who enters may end up with a price! I think that is really cool and generous from Element games.

[KingBrodd]

Warhammer Community Instagram has a count down to the Previews, 1 Day 23 Hours to go!! Cannot wait to hopefully get a glimpse at the Sons!!

[willange]

1 hour ago, KingBrodd said:

Warhammer Community Instagram has a count down to the Previews, 1 Day 23 Hours to go!! Cannot wait to hopefully get a glimpse at the Sons!!

Doctor: Uh oh, I've seen this before. 

Nurse: What is it doctor?!

Doctor: He's getting his hopes up for a speculative new army.  That can only mean 1 thing. 

Nurse: No!

Doctor: That's right. The AoS announcements this weekend will be limited to a more official preview of the recent Lumineth we've seen in the Lowdowns, plus a warcry warband.  His disappointment will be so crushing... he may lose all faith in future previews...

Nurse: NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

[Twisted Firaun]

2 hours ago, willange said:

Doctor: Uh oh, I've seen this before. 

Nurse: What is it doctor?!

Doctor: He's getting his hopes up for a speculative new army.  That can only mean 1 thing. 

Nurse: No!

Doctor: That's right. The AoS announcements this weekend will be limited to a more official preview of the recent Lumineth we've seen in the Lowdowns, plus a warcry warband.  His disappointment will be so crushing... he may lose all faith in future previews...

Nurse: NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Nurse: *Sobbing* But Doctor, isn’t there anything we can do?!

Doctor: No...... I’m afraid the only thing we can do is pray that the patient realizes that the hobby is not dead just because the previews didn’t fit his expectations.

Nurse: *Sobs even harder*

edit: Thank you, thank you, I’ll be here all quarantine.

Edited March 26, 2020 by TheR00zle
Thanking the people

[GeneralZero]

It is extremely annoying to be under the impression of reading some "filling"  at the warhammer-community until the big reveal (in 2 days), especially during this not less annoying period of lockdown/confinement ...

[PrimeElectrid]

3 hours ago, willange said:

Doctor: Uh oh, I've seen this before. 

Nurse: What is it doctor?!

Doctor: He's getting his hopes up for a speculative new army.  That can only mean 1 thing. 

Nurse: No!

Doctor: That's right. The AoS announcements this weekend will be limited to a more official preview of the recent Lumineth we've seen in the Lowdowns, plus a warcry warband.  His disappointment will be so crushing... he may lose all faith in future previews...

Nurse: NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Fake news. Nobody loses faith in previews. Disappointing previews simply increase expectations for the next one.

[KingBrodd]

5 hours ago, willange said:

Doctor: Uh oh, I've seen this before. 

Nurse: What is it doctor?!

Doctor: He's getting his hopes up for a speculative new army.  That can only mean 1 thing. 

Nurse: No!

Doctor: That's right. The AoS announcements this weekend will be limited to a more official preview of the recent Lumineth we've seen in the Lowdowns, plus a warcry warband.  His disappointment will be so crushing... he may lose all faith in future previews...

Nurse: NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

This made my sides hurt loved it. Luckily my expectations may yet be met!! If not this weekend then on the 4th and if not then, then WarhammerFest and if not then!? Who knows but the God-King.

4 hours ago, TheR00zle said:

Nurse: *Sobbing* But Doctor, isn’t there anything we can do?!

Doctor: No...... I’m afraid the only thing we can do is pray that the patient realizes that the hobby is not dead just because the previews didn’t fit his expectations.

Nurse: *Sobs even harder*

edit: Thank you, thank you, I’ll be here all quarantine.

*A standing ovation.

[alghero81]

On 3/25/2020 at 8:17 PM, Veillotron said:

I`m loving the Kislev preview, but for the me the most exciting thing out of this is the realization that GW is planning on producing new models for the Old World. I had seen the new maps and desire to build a new game system, but I thought that they would mostly try to leverage existing model lines (if they did I missed it

If you like Warhammer weekly with Vince Venturella go and have a look their show where they responded to the announcement of the Old World. Pretty compelling reasons why a new game would need to have new models as that would be only viable business model. Books just don’t justify the expense of a new game.

On the other side, assuming they keep the same model scale, would be interesting to see if there’s any crossover with existing AoS lines. To have a successful launch they would need a decent amount of armies playable from the beginning but FW usually have limited production, being more a niche line of models and games. Mixing with AoS would allow for a minor number of brand new armies, still I would say for a decent start at least 4. We know Kislev is coming and therefore at least Chaos in some form, maybe Warriors of Chaos? Daemons revisited? All bets are up but with so many AoS daemons already available and pretty darn good I think there’s already a good core.

If I have to dream since I doubt AoS will ever have time to produce them, would be good to get all other Chaos Gods gors like the pestigor, etc. Obviously usable in both systems 

[Thiagoma]

10 minutes ago, alghero81 said:

If you like Warhammer weekly with Vince Venturella go and have a look their show where they responded to the announcement of the Old World. Pretty compelling reasons why a new game would need to have new models as that would be only viable business model. Books just don’t justify the expense of a new game.

On the other side, assuming they keep the same model scale, would be interesting to see if there’s any crossover with existing AoS lines. To have a successful launch they would need a decent amount of armies playable from the beginning but FW usually have limited production, being more a niche line of models and games. Mixing with AoS would allow for a minor number of brand new armies, still I would say for a decent start at least 4. We know Kislev is coming and therefore at least Chaos in some form, maybe Warriors of Chaos? Daemons revisited? All bets are up but with so many AoS daemons already available and pretty darn good I think there’s already a good core.

If I have to dream since I doubt AoS will ever have time to produce them, would be good to get all other Chaos Gods gors like the pestigor, etc. Obviously usable in both systems 

Imo:

Old World uses round bases on retangular/square inserts.

Give then rules for AoS even if they are not "officially" into the setting.

Would be the best of both Worlds (no pun intended)

[willange]

7 minutes ago, Thiagoma said:

Imo:

Old World uses round bases on retangular/square inserts.

Give then rules for AoS even if they are not "officially" into the setting.

Would be the best of both Worlds (no pun intended)

I would love this.  I actually have tons of old world stuff, but it's all re-based for AoS.  There's no way I'm re-basing back to squares especially since I love AoS and wouldn't want to lose my ability to play it normally.  

Plus I will 100% buy Kislev (even if I don't like the new Old World game) if they're usable in AoS.

[Gecktron]

49 minutes ago, Thiagoma said:

Imo:

Old World uses round bases on retangular/square inserts.

Give then rules for AoS even if they are not "officially" into the setting.

Would be the best of both Worlds (no pun intended)

The A Song of Ice and Fire tabletop does the round bases on square trays so well. GW models (even the old ones) just look better on round bases when they have room to breath. Also GW just got rid of square bases, it makes sense to stick to round bases now. 

[alghero81]

7 minutes ago, Gecktron said:

The A Song of Ice and Fire tabletop does the round bases on square trays so well. GW models (even the old ones) just look better on round bases when they have room to breath. Also GW just got rid of square bases, it makes sense to stick to round bases now. 

That would be ideal but I’m not sure you would be able to play 100% factions in both games. It would not make any sense from the lore perspective (at least in the Old World) and economically (they want to sell you minies twice).

[Thiagoma]

14 minutes ago, alghero81 said:

and economically (they want to sell you minies twice)

Here is disagree with you. It could be a wonderfull bridge bettween Old World fans from the PC games and AOS. It would also sell very well among AoS players.

[willange]

Oh I pretty much figure that most AoS factions wouldn't be usable in Old World (it wouldn't really make much sense lorewise anyway), but I'd love for Old World factions to be fully supported in AoS just as more "azyrite surivors".  Getting legit rules for TK, Brettonia, Kislev, Norsca, etc. would be amazing in AoS. 

EDIT: Obviously not all those would fit as "azyrite survivors" specifically.  I just meant that kind of idea.

Edited March 27, 2020 by willange

[Overread]

GW might never officially give them rules, but you can bet people will use models as "counts as". Just like you can't use all your 30K models in 40K officially, but you can most certainly bring them to the table as stand ins for regular 40K models and use them as conversion material too. 

[Twisted Firaun]

51 minutes ago, Overread said:

GW might never officially give them rules, but you can bet people will use models as "counts as". Just like you can't use all your 30K models in 40K officially, but you can most certainly bring them to the table as stand ins for regular 40K models and use them as conversion material too. 

This man spitting straight facts.

[Baron Klatz]

They'll pale in comparison anyway to when AoS finally gets it's proper Freeguild updates with the mortal armies already mentioned in the lore found defending the Mortal Realms.

Ghyran knights riding Ghyrlions while in enchanted wood armor and weapons made from soulpods, Hammerhal Goldcoats wielding both life and fire weapons (like the Aqshy stakes that burst into flame), Ghurian Jercho hoplite soldiers in leather armor wielding weapons made from lethal grindworms and monsters they hunted, Chamonites draped in fantastical armor & gold tattoos that use alchemy and Shyish Glymmsforge blackcloaks wielding magic rifles and silver shields to ward off undeath to name but a handful? Yes please!

Edited March 27, 2020 by Baron Klatz

[Baron Klatz]

Yeah, with their art in the Stormcast battletome the Devoted will likely be the faction that represents the natives from the realm of heaven.

 

Seeing how they got their focus during the most savage times in the realms like the ones in the Tauroi archipelago that aided the Stormcasts in the God-beast campaign from their fire caves above the void and later how the free cities consecrated their building sites with their holy blood they might appear when things go barbaric again and the mortals of the realms are in need of faith again.(looks at Gordrakk).

Edited March 27, 2020 by Baron Klatz

[Kadeton]

3 hours ago, willange said:

Oh I pretty much figure that most AoS factions wouldn't be usable in Old World (it wouldn't really make much sense lorewise anyway), but I'd love for Old World factions to be fully supported in AoS just as more "azyrite surivors".  Getting legit rules for TK, Brettonia, Kislev, Norsca, etc. would be amazing in AoS. 

My only concern with this is that it brings back all the old "GW vs Forgeworld" divisions within the community. Either the Old World armies get terrible rules/pricing and are only for die-hard fans in "funsies" games (don't Brettonians and Tomb Kings already have that?) or they continue Forgeworld's tradition of malformed and game-breaking rules and every community gets to fracture over whether or not "pay-to-win" should be allowed in their tournaments.

Maybe that's the old cynic in me, and FW can actually step up and make balanced, playable armies that integrate nicely with the AoS core. But going on past performance, I wouldn't be pinning my hopes on it.

[Aipaca]

1 hour ago, Kadeton said:

My only concern with this is that it brings back all the old "GW vs Forgeworld" divisions within the community. Either the Old World armies get terrible rules/pricing and are only for die-hard fans in "funsies" games (don't Brettonians and Tomb Kings already have that?) or they continue Forgeworld's tradition of malformed and game-breaking rules and every community gets to fracture over whether or not "pay-to-win" should be allowed in their tournaments.

Maybe that's the old cynic in me, and FW can actually step up and make balanced, playable armies that integrate nicely with the AoS core. But going on past performance, I wouldn't be pinning my hopes on it.

Apparently GW are bringing the rules for FW models in-house to the relevant game's dev team and leaving FW to just focus on sculpts, can't remember where I read it but it's definitely a thing that they've said.

[Baron Klatz]

Well if that's the case then their earlier statement of the AoS studio having no communication with that dev team means the models won't be cross compatible outside of Freeguild proxies and kitbashes, as expected.

[Ravinsild]

8 hours ago, Kadeton said:

My only concern with this is that it brings back all the old "GW vs Forgeworld" divisions within the community. Either the Old World armies get terrible rules/pricing and are only for die-hard fans in "funsies" games (don't Brettonians and Tomb Kings already have that?) or they continue Forgeworld's tradition of malformed and game-breaking rules and every community gets to fracture over whether or not "pay-to-win" should be allowed in their tournaments.

Maybe that's the old cynic in me, and FW can actually step up and make balanced, playable armies that integrate nicely with the AoS core. But going on past performance, I wouldn't be pinning my hopes on it.

Coming this Summer, at least for 40k, but I think AOS too the actual Games Workshop rules writers are going to be re-writing all the data sheets and warscrolls for ForgeWorld stuff. ForgeWorld is relegated to small games like Blood Bowl, Necromunda, Warcry and stuff like that. They're the specialist games Division now and the big Citadel main office is doing 40k and AoS now. 

[Chikout]

32 minutes ago, Ravinsild said:

Coming this Summer, at least for 40k, but I think AOS too the actual Games Workshop rules writers are going to be re-writing all the data sheets and warscrolls for ForgeWorld stuff. ForgeWorld is relegated to small games like Blood Bowl, Necromunda, Warcry and stuff like that. They're the specialist games Division now and the big Citadel main office is doing 40k and AoS now. 

Warcry is handled by the main AOS team. Killteam is handled by the main 40k team. The boxed games team is running underworlds and Blackstone fortress along with all the random games that pop up in Barnes and noble. These are the three parts of the main studio. 

Forgeworld and the specialist games studio are essentially the same thing now with small dedicated teams for each sub game. They are in charge of bloodbowl, Horus Heresy, middle earth, Adeptus titanicus, aeronautica Imperialis and  Necromunda. This has all been explained in the official podcasts. 

It is true I think, that the AOS and 40k teams will do rules for forgeworld minis in those settings. 

[Ravinsild]

7 minutes ago, Chikout said:

Warcry is handled by the main AOS team. Killteam is handled by the main 40k team. The boxed games team is running underworlds and Blackstone fortress along with all the random games that pop up in Barnes and noble. These are the three parts of the main studio. 

Forgeworld and the specialist games studio are essentially the same thing now with small dedicated teams for each sub game. They are in charge of bloodbowl, Horus Heresy, middle earth, Adeptus titanicus, aeronautica Imperialis and  Necromunda. This has all been explained in the official podcasts. 

It is true I think, that the AOS and 40k teams will do rules for forgeworld minis in those settings. 

It will be interesting to see how the ForgeWorld models, like for instance World Eaters Legion Contemptor Dreadnought or the Hellforged Dreadclaw Drop Pod rules change when re-visited by the 40k team. 

I think AoS rules bleed into 40k rules and both games have become very consistent in wording. The language is becoming more precise and "the same" across their own selves and even each other.