EccentricCircle Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 8 hours ago, Kronos said: Different events from what I gather, Throne of Skulls at Warhammer world, and Pax Unplugged in the States. That's what I'd thought. I'm excited enough about the Lotr reveals that I wasn't seeking out aos ones though, so didn't look in to the details too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 He's also missing from the GW website! Well actually he's still there just only under the "Grand Alliance Chaos" tab or if you search for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morglum StormBasha Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Lord of the rings preview was a seminar at the middle earth throne of skulls event. New dunland (Viking) models for middle earth were also on pre release sale there. I wouldn’t expect any more aos news till Xmas day / New Year’s Day 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 There's a New Years event on the 4th so that's when I'd expect to see a fresh wave of previews and such for next year. We might get sneaky hints or somesuch over the Christmas period - even though GW goes into a slower mode then (pre-written articles and such since most staff are on holiday) they didn't slow down much last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinros Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) On 12/8/2019 at 9:51 AM, Charleston said: That cultist hate is real here. Which is fun. Cultists are somehow a new kind of unit, they are not just chaff battleline with an ability, but actually thoose are cheap and versatile units, able to do some neat sheningans. Splintered Fang are great for Sacrifices within the Cabalites as they regenerate a model each hero phase. Also they are a nice bodyguard to a sorcerer due to their poison weapons. Corvus are fast and cheap and can fly. Therefore they are great to go for some objective quick. Especially in a Ravagers list, which allows them to spawn somewhere hidden on the board edge. Unmade can be a real danger as they have a profile worth of a hero and also that -1 bravery, which can be stacked quite high with Archaon, Catshpinx and Knights. Iron Warriors Thingies are tanky with a 4+ save (that can be rerolled if I remember correctly?) and therefore are good for holding some backfield objectives without to have to fear shooting too much. The list goes on. Each Cultist Unit is specialised, but therefore actually good at a certain task. Also, neat sculpts and as they are not battleline, noone should argue that gw want´s to force sales by powercreep. As a slaanesh player, was really counting on cultists being able to be marked. Well, guess I will wait three years or more until GW gets around to making us some mortals since we are the only god dedicated faction that lacks it. I will just play nighthaunt instead. With this new book the divide between the god dedicated books and slaves got larger. Edited December 9, 2019 by shinros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, shinros said: As a slaanesh player, was really counting on cultists being able to be marked. Are you aware they don't worship Big Four? They have their own gods and see Archaon as either their messenger or even incarnate. They will never be able to be marked. So many people are often disappointed, because they were waiting for something that never even had a reason to exist. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 It should be noted that the "Big Four" tell lies all the time. Many of the wild-peoples might not think they are worshipping chaos, but they are. Many of those other gods are just greater demons pretending to be other gods to steal the belief. Much like all the gods for the new Warcry Warbands. Behind the mask of each tribe's belief in their great god there's a greater demon pulling the strings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorticulusTGA Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 31 minutes ago, shinros said: As a slaanesh player, was really counting on cultists being able to be marked. Well, guess I will wait three years or more until GW gets around to making us some mortals since we are the only god dedicated faction that lacks it. I will just play nighthaunt instead. With this new book the divide between the god dedicated books and slaves got larger. Well, seeing how good the Chaos Maraudeurs are now, I am totally going to buy the double box of Splintered Fangs and convert them (with Hellstriders, Forsaken and Chaos chariot bits) to look like dismounted Hellstriders, then paint them in a sufficiently convincing Slaaneshy theme into 20 marked Maraudeurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinros Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, Overread said: It should be noted that the "Big Four" tell lies all the time. Many of the wild-peoples might not think they are worshipping chaos, but they are. Many of those other gods are just greater demons pretending to be other gods to steal the belief. Much like all the gods for the new Warcry Warbands. Behind the mask of each tribe's belief in their great god there's a greater demon pulling the strings. Yup, also considering the added position that you have the other gods sitting around a fire with mortal heroes, beastmen and troops while you largely have nothing. lets not forget slaves to darkness don't really match the aesthetic of the army. And GW axed our heroes from the book. Yeah I am dissappointed that I am stuck with a busted glorified daemon book after years of waiting for an update. Releasing new chaos mortals is like twisting the knife in for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinros Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, HorticulusTGA said: Well, seeing how good the Chaos Maraudeurs are now, I am totally going to buy the double box of Splintered Fangs and convert them (with Hellstriders, Forsaken and Chaos chariot bits) to look like dismounted Hellstriders, then paint them in a sufficiently convincing Slaaneshy theme into 20 marked Maraudeurs. I like converting as well but why must we have to drop tons of money just to make a basic troop choice match the army? Anyway, thats enough whining from me, I'm going to play nighthaunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charleston Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, shinros said: As a slaanesh player, was really counting on cultists being able to be marked. Well, guess I will wait three years or more until GW gets around to making us some mortals since we are the only god dedicated faction that lacks it. I will just play nighthaunt instead. With this new book the divide between the god dedicated books and slaves got larger. It´s a free world, feel free to do whatever you want If a missing Rule in the StD Tome makes you quit Slaanesh to play NH, do so! But please don´t be upset when I tell you that I don´t care too much. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinros Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Charleston said: It´s a free world, feel free to do whatever you want If a missing Rule in the StD Tome makes you quit Slaanesh to play NH, do so! But please don´t be upset when I tell you that I don´t care too much. Well its your opinion, just as I have mine. I am more annoyed at GW really. There is not much of slaanesh there to begin with unless you like to make your opponent hate the game. Edited December 9, 2019 by shinros 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, shinros said: Well its your opinion, just as I have mine. I am more annoyed at GW really. There is not much of slaanesh there to begin with unless you like to make your opponent hate the game. I do agree that Slaanesh would be well served with Mortals, and that it's odd the Warcry warbands don't get to be marked. I also understand frustration that you have an army you can't play (except in quite a limited amount of ways) because GW is slow at taking it to a good level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinros Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, zilberfrid said: I do agree that Slaanesh would be well served with Mortals, and that it's odd the Warcry warbands don't get to be marked. I also understand frustration that you have an army you can't play (except in quite a limited amount of ways) because GW is slow at taking it to a good level. Yup, thats basically the crux of it. I also do apologise for whining but it is frustrating for me after years of waiting we get a daemon book no one likes playing against, while gw release new chaos mortals. We can't even use the new monsters. Edited December 9, 2019 by shinros 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charleston Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, shinros said: Yup, thats basically the crux of it. I also do apologise for whining but it is frustrating for me after years of waiting we get a daemon book no one likes playing against, while gw release new chaos mortals. We can't even use the new monsters. Sorry if my earlier post was a bit harsh. I understood your initial one maybe a bit wrong due to the NH part. I´ve read it the "my faction that got new stuff and new rules didn´t get profit from this release so I will quit it" way, meanwhile your last post clears this up. But is the use of other Marked Slaves to Darkness Units no option? There is still a lot of different units accessible, althrough none of the new ones beside LoC on Karkadrak. You are still able to utilize cultists as Allies, which is even a quite good approach concidering their low point costs! Same applies for Llamacatsphinx and the Crusher! And as Marked units from the "classical" range are not counted towards the Ally Limit, having 200 pts in 1k games allows you one Catsphinx and one unit of Cultists. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinros Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Charleston said: Sorry if my earlier post was a bit harsh. I understood your initial one maybe a bit wrong due to the NH part. I´ve read it the "my faction that got new stuff and new rules didn´t get profit from this release so I will quit it" way, meanwhile your last post clears this up. But is the use of other Marked Slaves to Darkness Units no option? There is still a lot of different units accessible, althrough none of the new ones beside LoC on Karkadrak. You are still able to utilize cultists as Allies, which is even a quite good approach concidering their low point costs! Same applies for Llamacatsphinx and the Crusher! And as Marked units from the "classical" range are not counted towards the Ally Limit, having 200 pts in 1k games allows you one Catsphinx and one unit of Cultists. No worries, I was just really frustrated so I came off quite strong. I'm switching mainly because I want to be positive lol, hate moaning really. The chaps in the nighthaunt thread are pretty great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123lac Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Charleston said: It´s a free world, feel free to do whatever you want If a missing Rule in the StD Tome makes you quit Slaanesh to play NH, do so! But please don´t be upset when I tell you that I don´t care too much. lmao. I feel him on the no new mortals for Slaanesh though, especially when you look at how cool Khorne Bloodbound are. Maybe one day. Edited December 10, 2019 by 123lac 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Honestly there's few AoS armies that don't have clear gaps or model upgrades needed for them. Stormcast and Nighthaunt are doing really well; but a lot of other AoS armies have loads of legacy models (eg Skaven and Seraphon) whilst armies like Slaanesh have clear model line gaps (the mortals); meanwhile there's armies like Daughters of Khaine and Flesheaters who are clearly undersupported in terms of model diversity within their range when compared to other armies. Slaanesh is not unique in this regard and lets not forget they did get 5 new sculpts (excluding terrain and endless spells), one of which was a huge keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raviv Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 New rumour engine. Looks very 40K-ish to me. If it's AoS it might be KO maybe, but seems unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Updated Ghazghkull Thraka.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charleston Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Rumour about his return is cycling for a longer time right now. Also one of the upcoming books is supposed to have an focus on Orcs if I recall correctly from the WarCom trailer. So would make sense~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, Charleston said: Rumour about his return is cycling for a longer time right now. Also one of the upcoming books is supposed to have an focus on Orcs if I recall correctly from the WarCom trailer. So would make sense~ Yep, it's called "Saga of the Beast". And it fits the orks (beast) vs Space Wolves (saga) rumour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefang Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Definitely Ghaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EccentricCircle Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 With each new rumour engine they release, the more of a hodgepodge of different styles and designs these Idoneth Endless spells seem to be! By the time they come out, I reckon they'll had added so many gears, trees and tassels that they won't fit the theme of the army at all! 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldarain Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Quite possibly Ghaz. The dings and dents along with the cable styling looks very Orkish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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