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1 hour ago, Panzer said:

(also before I get Nagash you'll find me quitting the hobby...)

I’m not that harsh with him but I’m on the same line. I have more than 10k points of Death armies, more than half painted, but no Nagash. After reading his story in WFB (nice books by the way) I really disliked him but one day I’ll buy that model.

And maybe paint it.

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On 11/4/2019 at 10:04 AM, Kirjava13 said:

Monopose might work for some of you, but it's ridiculous to take things away from the hobbyist and expect them to pay more. There is a fine line to draw- I don't think many people advocate a return to the monkey-rats of the first multipart Skaven regiment- I will be a happy Clawlord if I never have to glue another tail on in my life. But in a horde regiment, the ability to mix and match small things like weapons and arm position makes a big difference, and in smaller, more elite regiments, monopose models become increasingly obvious. A huge part of the hobby is (or was) customisation, being able to build your guys the way you want them. For me personally, the verisimilitude of not having an army of clones is a big deal. I go to a lot of trouble to make my Stormfiends look different, and I can manage those conversions because Stormfiends are big models and cutting and changing is within the limit of my mediocre hobby abilities... but I look at my Chainrasps, and while I can appreciate the convenience of them being Easy To Build, that convenience is not so much that it overcomes the fact that I am left looking at a unit where every guy is absolutely identical to three others. I do not understand why I should pay for the privilege of having choice removed.

Preach brother, the whole reason I got into this hobby is cause I was tired of ripping the heads off of my g I joes to put them on different bodies. I’m all for easy to build when it makes sense but it should cost less than the actual kit.

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39 minutes ago, alghero81 said:

I’m not that harsh with him but I’m on the same line. I have more than 10k points of Death armies, more than half painted, but no Nagash. After reading his story in WFB (nice books by the way) I really disliked him but one day I’ll buy that model.

And maybe paint it.

 

Nagash books by Mike Lee are absolutely awesome. Some of the best writing for WHFB universe. I wish the released them as audio… The magnitude of his personality was described very well and insights in to other lords of undeath was quite good.

New Nagash model is also a wonderful masterpiece. One day I will have time in my life to sit down and paint it.       

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Sad news, I emailed FW regarding the Fimir warriors and Tamurkhan being no longer available in the US, (and lacking the option for email alerts)

This was the response:

"Thanks for getting in touch regarding Tamurkhan and the Fimir models.

I am sorry to say this has been removed from the web store and discontinued from the Forge World product range."

 

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7 minutes ago, Shearl said:

Sad news, I emailed FW regarding the Fimir warriors and Tamurkhan being no longer available in the US, (and lacking the option for email alerts)

This was the response:

"Thanks for getting in touch regarding Tamurkhan and the Fimir models.

I am sorry to say this has been removed from the web store and discontinued from the Forge World product range."

They are available where I am looking from. Weird.

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8 minutes ago, Shearl said:

Sad news, I emailed FW regarding the Fimir warriors and Tamurkhan being no longer available in the US, (and lacking the option for email alerts)

This was the response:

"Thanks for getting in touch regarding Tamurkhan and the Fimir models.

I am sorry to say this has been removed from the web store and discontinued from the Forge World product range."

 

I see this as one step closer to the proper release of a full-fledged Fimir army. Or maybe that's just wishful thinking.

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16 minutes ago, Still-young said:

I would definitely err towards wishful thinking. 

The weird thing is, they just had a Fimir army showcase on the twitch channel recently and one of the new Warcray beasts is an example of a new Fomoroid model. That does not seem to go along with the Fimir being squatted.

Also: at the Nova reveal they mentioned "Exciting changes" coming to Forge world.  I have not heard/seen any follow-up to that though. Maybe the Fimir are moving into the main design studio.

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3 minutes ago, FallenSerf said:

The weird thing is, they just had a Fimir army showcase on the twitch channel recently and one of the new Warcray beasts is an example of a new Fomoroid model. That does not seem to go along with the Fimir being squatted.

Also: at the Nova reveal they mentioned "Exciting changes" coming to Forge world.  I have not heard/seen any follow-up to that though. Maybe the Fimir are moving into the main design studio.

Fomoroid isn’t necessarily anything to do with Fimir. They just use the same mythical creature as the root of the word. 

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I'm repeating myself but I'm saying it just in case people from GW read this: i'd instantly buy plastic Fimir models. If the background is too dark, then change it if that is what's needed in these times but they look awesome and I would be sad to see them go.

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Personally between my fimir and monsters I'm just under 2000 pts, but it's sad to see them go. This also seems to confirm those WIP fimir heroes will not be materializing.

At least from my perspective it seems Forgeworld has not really figured out what its doing with AoS, the constant shifts and changes are not a good sign.  

I also wish they had gone on "last chance to buy" as I would have snagged Tamurkhan. If anyone in the UK is interested in Fimir or Tamurkhan, now is definitely the time to buy them.

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Honestly we've no idea what Forgeworlds plans are. We know that they formed an AoS team at one stage, which produced 2 alternate head packs for stormcast and then was promptly disbanded. The speicalist games doing really well has boosted their workload, but at the same time they lost one of their main sculptors and the power behind the Horus Heresy series of models. In addition even the specialist games have had issues - eg the phyrr cats for Necromunda were made, previewed and then taken away to be reworked and haven't been seen since. Plus we've seen them have some very iffy art quality on some of their products. 

 

My mind is that there's some internal drama/pressure/powerplay/something going on between main GW and Forgeworld. 
Plus lets not forget main GW does big stuff now and cheaper than FW. Heck the Greater Demon of Nurgle is bigger from GW than from FW. Granted resin still achieves very fine details better than modern plastics, but the gulf is a lot smaller than it once was. 

Right now its really hard to say what the plans are for AoS. In theory it should be a gold-mine for FW. The Realms ahve LOADS of niche model and monster possibilities that should make it a ripe ground for alternate sculpts and upgrade packs. Heck most armies, in theory have 8 variations or so from each different realm - there's easy picking for upgrade and alternate models. 

 

Also its clear that FW has been going through a lot of changes, so chances are plans that were firm even half a year ago might be up in the air. 

 

Personally I'd be really sad to see FW go or reduce or just never support AoS.

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1 hour ago, Icegoat said:

Another day another squatting. This just keeps happening

Is everything thats not a best seller eventually going to be squatted until we just have storm cast vs space marines.???

Losing tamurkhan is a tragedy. 

Ah yes, this sentiment really makes sense in a year where we had like 4 separate battle box releases and like 12 battletome releases, none of which had anything to do with Stormcast. 

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FW is an odd thing. For AoS at least, most of the models sat unloved rules-wise, like Fimir and Plague Troggoths, and so no one buys them. Instead of fixing the rules, they also seem to Squat them at random sometimes. Didn’t the Fimirach Noble release in the past 2 years? A revamp to Chaos Undivided seems like a perfect time to get new rules and push them. Heck, since FW made them a Destruction unit for some reason, give them the Ironjawz or Gloomspite keyword. Let someone use them. In their last incarnation their rules were bad and they couldn’t ally with anyone.

 

I sort of understand Tamurkhan, though he was a great model, because he was an old world character they weren’t using. They could have used him as a generic Maggotkin on Toad Dragon.

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Skin Wolves never got the BEASTS OF CHAOS keyword, which is a single word change (i.e. "MONSTERS" to "BEASTS") on a PDF warscroll.

For me, that is a microcosm that sums up FW's policy towards AoS. They just don't care.

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11 hours ago, alghero81 said:

I’m not that harsh with him but I’m on the same line. I have more than 10k points of Death armies, more than half painted, but no Nagash. After reading his story in WFB (nice books by the way) I really disliked him but one day I’ll buy that model.

And maybe paint it.

I am sure a new one will come at some point.

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9 hours ago, MitGas said:

I'm repeating myself but I'm saying it just in case people from GW read this: i'd instantly buy plastic Fimir models. If the background is too dark, then change it if that is what's needed in these times but they look awesome and I would be sad to see them go.

I never understood why this should be too dark in a world of witch burning, rampant cannibalism, mass carnage for religious reasons, political assassinations, genocide and biological warfare, but whatever 🤪

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1 hour ago, Beastmaster said:

I never understood why this should be too dark in a world of witch burning, rampant cannibalism, mass carnage for religious reasons, political assassinations, genocide and biological warfare, but whatever 🤪

Neither do I but people are terribly butt-hurt these days. I could ramble on for a long, long time how this isn't good for society as a whole but this forum's management is also overtly sensitive (and it's too off-topic anyways) so I'll refrain from it. But let's just say that conflict - especially if no real harm is done as in heated discussions - is a mighty tool for personal growth and it's sad that anything slightly aggravating gets simply taken out to make things meet the lowest common denominator. Nobody loved something because of it being the lowest common denominator (this is especially true for 40k - I mean that whole oppressive empire thing... it's not ideal either and changing it would kill the setting). So yeah, they could stay as raping creatures for all I care. Truth be told, I don't even care for that aspect much, I just like their design. Blame HeroQuest. :) But despite me not caring too much about their background, I wouldn't want it changed for PC (political correctness) reasons either. PC is a cancer to society.

Whoops, now I ranted. Sorry.

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