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22 minutes ago, Aginor said:

IIRC GW released 8 or 9 Battletomes in 2016, that was the maximum so far.

This year there are 9 if I am not mistaken (counting Orruks, CoS and Sylvaneth already), I admit I'd be kinda surprised if there were more than two additional ones.

It would be a pleasant surprise though, especially if something scaly is involved. :)

Counting those confirmed but not released yet ones, it's alreay 11 tomes

Gitz, skaven, FEC, Khorne, Fyreslayer, S, Slyn, cities of sigmar, orruk, orgor, new death(probably skeleton)

There is at least one more chaos, so it will be at least 12 in total this year.

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Ogor battletome not announced so it could still be a 2020 release window although unlikely considering the existing pace. Still 7 in 7 months, 2 more announced and at least 2 unannounced but already discussed for this year (death and chaos). That’s 4 more in 4 months if in December they slow down, that’s a lot...

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1 hour ago, HammerOfSigmar said:

It really depends, strictly speaking, Nurgle, DOK, idk, LON, SCE and nighthaunt are not fully 2.0 armys by now but none of them are desperate for an update like STD. If we ignore those, then the armies needed to be updated but has not been anounced yet are very few left: STD,  seraphon, KO and TZ.  If so, everything should be done before 2020 April then.

I agree they could be the next one, question is if after this rush to get all battletomes the next will be always followed by new miniatures like before this trend. Technically they are already 2.0 tomes so they could not be in a hurry to update them... or be the next batch 

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15 hours ago, Kurrilino said:

You bet that those people won't stop to share their paine.

I'm more of a Nurgle player but i absolutely understand when people are treated more than unfair. You can fill libraries with Stormcast books alone.

Problem is they never actually fix anything in the SCE books. They just add new units, people complain, they nerf em, regardless of the fact that SCE has a barely 47% win rate in all major tournaments. Meanwhile Skaven FEC and DoK get away with the lightest of touches. Id be ok with no new units for my SCE for two more years if they finally fixed the book and made the battalions playable instead of being utter trash.

SCE is just held up by the Anvils ability and decent warscrolls at this point. Little to no synergy in that army unlike the battletomes we've seen this year

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Just now, alghero81 said:

I agree they could be the next one, question is if after this rush to get all battletomes the next will be always followed by new miniatures like before this trend. Technically they are already 2.0 tomes so they could not be in a hurry to update them... or be the next batch 

Not to mention the possibility of new armies altogether. Beastgrave hints at an eventual Wanderer revamp, we've already got Tyrion and Malerion army hints, Dispossessed seem likely to get their own tome eventually, and that's just Order. There's also the potential of new model releases for factions that were already updated, like how Chaos got a big model update in 40k this year, even though their tome was already updated.

All things considered, I don't know that borderline 2.0 factions are likely to get new tomes short of a new edition or new models.

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4 minutes ago, madmac said:

Not to mention the possibility of new armies altogether. Beastgrave hints at an eventual Wanderer revamp, we've already got Tyrion and Malerion army hints, Dispossessed seem likely to get their own tome eventually, and that's just Order. There's also the potential of new model releases for factions that were already updated, like how Chaos got a big model update in 40k this year, even though their tome was already updated.

All things considered, I don't know that borderline 2.0 factions are likely to get new tomes short of a new edition or new models.

Exactly my thoughts, only AoS 2.0 seems quite stable so I would not expect a new version  anytime soon.

KO didn’t get a wave 2 so seems unlikely IDK would get it before them. Just endless spells and terrain seems also not so likely. On the other hand they can’t release 3 new armies every year so we can expect an interesting couple of years in front of us!!

As I said before I imagine subfactions being expanded but still be compatible within their soup tomes for a really difficult balancing puzzle for GW!!

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Re: books released just before 2.0, Idoneth, Nurgle, LoN, DoK etc. 

I think they will want to give these factions endless spells at somepoint, DoK and LoN potentially will get scenery also. 

Given that GW said they expect to have all tomes at 2.0 standard by the end of 2020 I suspect we will see releases for these armies mid to late next year. 2 years for a book to be valid is legitimate, plus I doubt it would take them until late 2020 to update all the factions if we discount the borderline ones. 

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To be honest more than faction terrain and endless spell I believe those “first wave 2.0” tomes require here and there some rules rewrite to be more consistent. Many rules (and spells) coming after have been phrased in different and more efficient ways 

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On 7/27/2019 at 10:39 AM, HollowHills said:

I do really hope this wanderers rumours come true, but I don't see another major release in 2019 after this new death faction.

I hope people aren't confusing the Orion trilogy re-release with a Wanderer rumour :(

1994 4th Ed WE, 2005 6th ed WE, 2014 8th ed WE,.. well it has been two editions of a game system but it hasn't been the requisite 9-11 years to rerelease Wood Elves 😉

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2 hours ago, HammerOfSigmar said:

Counting those confirmed but not released yet ones, it's alreay 11 tomes

Gitz, skaven, FEC, Khorne, Fyreslayer, S, Slyn, cities of sigmar, orruk, orgor, new death(probably skeleton)

There is at least one more chaos, so it will be at least 12 in total this year.

Hmmm not sure about the Ogors and New Death. Ogors might be just a battle box and no tome (yet), didn't we have something like that before?

And the new Death, yeah it might be this year. I just didn't include them because we don't really know anything about them. The others are confirmed to be Battletomes.

 

Either way: GW is really producing quite some books this year! 2019 is a new record for AoS releases. :)

 

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As for the Tomes released shortly before 2.0, like LoN, IDK, DOK and Nurgle : I think they are fine. Back then GW said that they designed them with 2.0 already in mind, didn't they?

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13 minutes ago, Aginor said:

As for the Tomes released shortly before 2.0, like LoN, IDK, DOK and Nurgle : I think they are fine. Back then GW said that they designed them with 2.0 already in mind, didn't they?

Nurgle are struggling, LoN are overpowered with a few units, DoK seem really strong but have a lot of "trap" units. Idoneth are in a bad place which is heavily masked by one particular list doing well at tournaments. Many Idoneth units are basically unplayable.

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Im gonna go ahead and guess that next year will see a new edition of 40k so they can start that codex cycle again, while we'll get an apocalypse equivalent for AoS so we have skirmish, regular and apoc games for both main systems. We'll see the rest of the 2.0 books and some of these long awaited light/shadow aelves. Then in 2021 itll be AoS 3.0 and the whole thing starts again. All this has happened before and will happen again etc 😁

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24 minutes ago, Aginor said:

Hmmm not sure about the Ogors and New Death. Ogors might be just a battle box and no tome (yet), didn't we have something like that before?

And the new Death, yeah it might be this year. I just didn't include them because we don't really know anything about them. The others are confirmed to be Battletomes.

 

Either way: GW is really producing quite some books this year! 2019 is a new record for AoS releases. :)

 

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As for the Tomes released shortly before 2.0, like LoN, IDK, DOK and Nurgle : I think they are fine. Back then GW said that they designed them with 2.0 already in mind, didn't they?

I am not 100% sure but both the new Death and the ogors trailer are closely related to "bone". So it is a reasonable assumption that the battlebox will be orgor vs new death. 

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22 minutes ago, HammerOfSigmar said:

I am not 100% sure but both the new Death and the ogors trailer are closely related to "bone". So it is a reasonable assumption that the battlebox will be orgor vs new death. 

They won't do a battlebox of years old ogor models vs brand new death models. 

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2 minutes ago, HollowHills said:

They won't do a battlebox of years old ogor models vs brand new death models. 

My same opinion... unless it’s just a remastering of Deathrattle and they create a new Wight King or similar hero and a couple of other models with the new mortarch. In that case the box could contain 10 or 20 skeletons and/or 10 grave guards and 5 black knights 

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Death is confirmed because we know they're getting at least one new book this year, combined with all their existing armies being 2.0 and the Tithe of Bones trailer, (Only new armies get that kind of attention) new death army is as close to confirmed as anything not explicitly announced by GW can possibly be.

That said, we don't know if they are vs Ogors yet, though it seems to fit the "Feast of Bones" theme. There was a rumor not long ago of the next battlebox being Ogors vs Wanderers, which seems like even more of a long shot but maybe someone was just confusing the Ogor box with the Beastgrave starter, or maybe not.

 

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2 hours ago, Aginor said:

Hmmm not sure about the Ogors and New Death. Ogors might be just a battle box and no tome (yet), didn't we have something like that before?

And the new Death, yeah it might be this year. I just didn't include them because we don't really know anything about them. The others are confirmed to be Battletomes.

 

Either way: GW is really producing quite some books this year! 2019 is a new record for AoS releases. :)

 

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As for the Tomes released shortly before 2.0, like LoN, IDK, DOK and Nurgle : I think they are fine. Back then GW said that they designed them with 2.0 already in mind, didn't they?

I can’t think of any battlebox type things that haven’t come with or near a tome. 

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6 hours ago, HammerOfSigmar said:

For balance problem, I don't think it will be a big issues. The STD battletome can just empower the STD units in great scale and this won't affect how those units perform in the Chaos god army. For example, FEC dragon is very deadly in FEC army(strike first, attack twice without interruption, but anyone really try using it in LON list? 

Like Beasr of chaos list aren’t strengthened by tzaangor enlightened ;) 

Also some great lists in Slaanesh feature the beast of chaos battalion. 

But you’re right. As long as the strength comes from the allegiance abilities it’s more easily contained. Which would be a shame as I’m mostly looking forward to fielding a mortal Slaanesh list 😅

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5 hours ago, Kramer said:

Like Beasr of chaos list aren’t strengthened by tzaangor enlightened ;) 

Also some great lists in Slaanesh feature the beast of chaos battalion. 

But you’re right. As long as the strength comes from the allegiance abilities it’s more easily contained. Which would be a shame as I’m mostly looking forward to fielding a mortal Slaanesh list 😅

Its an unwritten rule that whichever unit you like the most in a warhammer release will have the worst battlescrolls and/or synergy! :D

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19 hours ago, Sete said:

"My faction is ok,  and I don't care about yours" opinion. Cool thanks for sharing.

 

Bummer I thought we would have some AoS august 3rd. The waiting game continues.

The mods keep trying to get people back on the topic of rumors and away from the complaining about what we don't have.  I have no horse in this race, I like unaligned chaos.  This is a rumor thread.  That's all I'm saying.

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It's hard to tell what we might get, but there are a few possibles:

1) More details on the Battletomes

2) More details on Underworlds Beastgrave

3) More details on Warcry - there's still two warbands outstanding

It all depends on what is coming next and on how much each block has within it. The sooner its coming the more info GW will give us, but similarly if something is a long way off, but has a lot we might see more now as they tease it out to help build up the hype.  Of course GW might well show nothing for AoS and could focus on specialist games and 40K for these two considering that they did reveals for AoS only a week ago. 

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