Walrustaco Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 At long last! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Just a note but looking here https://www.firestormgames.co.uk/latest-and-pre-release?show=pre-release#c2 https://www.firestormgames.co.uk/latest-and-pre-release?show=pre-release#c1 We can see quite a host of models being moved from Webstore only to 3rd party both from 40K and AoS! This is really great news because it means more discounts from 3rd parties and more support for games at local game stores and not just from the GW online store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnelian Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Clan's Cynic said: My guess is you'll only be able to take the more baseline units that came at the start of AoS1. None of the spin-off, specialised chambers like Vanguard, Sacrosanct, etc. Basically those who're left behind to garrison a city. That would be perfect and give me a reason to bust out my old libs and rets Edited July 20, 2019 by Carnelian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 There are 4 private videos on the warhammer tv age of sigmar playlist! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still-young Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, The_Yellow_Sign said: I still don't want any of that stuff in there. It means that the Stormcast units will be hogging design space that could otherwise be used for Free People/Elves etc. And I really despise the Stormcast lore and aesthetic. Considering it’s just a mish-mash of existing units, they aren’t really taking up any design space. They’d either be there or they wouldn’t, it’s not like there’d be a new free cities unit to replace them. Just don’t take them. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownDog Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 We still haven't gotten a look at any Warhammer Underworlds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walrustaco Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 So how long until stuff starts getting released? When was the last time they announced 3 battletomes at once? They technically didn't mention any kind of Ogor battletome, but I'm gonna go ahead and assume one's coming. What was the time between announcing and releasing for the FEC and Skaven stuff, for reference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Walrustaco said: So how long until stuff starts getting released? When was the last time they announced 3 battletomes at once? They technically didn't mention any kind of Ogor battletome, but I'm gonna go ahead and assume one's coming. What was the time between announcing and releasing for the FEC and Skaven stuff, for reference? If I remember right, there's a quote floating around from a staffer at one of these that GW generally doesn't show stuff off that's any longer than two months away. There's exceptions to this when it's their big releases (Warcry), but it's generally consistent. My guess is we'll get an Ogor vs X boxset before the Battletome, so some ways out yet. Free Peoples and Orrukz even had their limited edition books on display, so my guess is no more than a month for them. Edited July 20, 2019 by Clan's Cynic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ageofpaddsmar Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: If I remember right, there's a quote floating around from a staffer at one of these that GW generally doesn't show stuff off that's any longer than two months away. There's exceptions to this when it's their big releases (Warcry), but it's generally consistent. My guess is we'll get an Ogor vs X boxset before the Battletome, so some ways out yet. Free Peoples and Orrukz even had their limited edition books on display, so my guess is no more than a month for them. Don't forget that the skaven and flesheater books dropped with the box set. The only reason sylvaneth book didn't drop with looncurse was because of the shipping issue. So my guess is book will drop when the box does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Around 2 to 3 months is about the rough time span that GW previews and then releases things so the next 3 months are going to be super hot for AoS releases! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikethefish Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) This may have already been mentioned before, but that new Tyrant is another Rumor Engine solved. My initial assessment was definitely wrong - not Ironjawz at all. Talking with others, I certainly came around to the belief that it was an Ogor weapon. Turns out you folks were right! Edited July 20, 2019 by mikethefish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Yellow_Sign Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Still-young said: Considering it’s just a mish-mash of existing units, they aren’t really taking up any design space. They’d either be there or they wouldn’t, it’s not like there’d be a new free cities unit to replace them. Just don’t take them. GW now tries to give each unit a niche in a battletome, so that you don't have a situation where two units fill the same role, but one is clearly better. So the Stormcast units will be occupying design space. Also, the book will be balanced with the assumption that you will be able to take Stormcast, just as Khorne is balanced with the assumption that you will take at least one Slaughterpriest and Bloodthirster. Edited July 20, 2019 by The_Yellow_Sign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 just had to snicker a bit that even in their own tome the humans are overshadowed by the amount of stormcast. 😅 two humans front and centre but every one else who isn’t stormcast gets blurred beyond recognition. (Also is that a prosecutor with a double handed axe in the top right corner?) 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still-young Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, The_Yellow_Sign said: GW now tries to give each unit a niche in a battletome, so that you don't have a situation where two units fill the same role, but one is clearly better. So the Stormcast units will be occupying design space. Also, the book will be balanced with the assumption that you will be able to take Stormcast, just as Khorne is balanced with the assumption that you will take at last one Slaughterpriest and Bloodthirster. But they wouldn’t have filled that design space with anything else. This isn’t a battletome that was going to get new units. Stormcast are in the free cities in the fluff, so they can fill a role in a way that makes sense, that wouldn’t have been filled otherwise. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcprowlington Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, The_Yellow_Sign said: GW now tries to give each unit a niche in a battletome, so that you don't have a situation where two units fill the same role, but one is clearly better. So the Stormcast units will be occupying design space. Also, the book will be balanced with the assumption that you will be able to take Stormcast, just as Khorne is balanced with the assumption that you will take at last one Slaughterpriest and Bloodthirster. Well i guess then since stormcast are a jack of all trades army that means they cover every role so they wont bother putting any other units in. pack it up boys this is just a new stormcast battletome in disguise. Edited July 20, 2019 by Mcprowlington 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Yellow_Sign Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Still-young said: But they wouldn’t have filled that design space with anything else. This isn’t a battletome that was going to get new units. Stormcast are in the free cities in the fluff, so they can fill a role in a way that makes sense, that wouldn’t have been filled otherwise. It's a battletome that will get Warscroll rewrites. When they rewrite warscrolls, they will be trying not to step on the toes of Stormcast scrolls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitGas Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) I wish they'd solve that Varanguard gauntlet rumor engine pic too. Could very well be for the Warcry Tyrants or new Chosen but either way it's what I am waiting for. The old Chaos Warriors still look pretty damn great for their age but they'd be like 3 times better now. Plus they're kinda small in AoS sizes. Edited July 20, 2019 by MitGas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyriakin Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 As someone who like BCR for more thematic reasons, I am concerned a Ogre soup tome will strip away our thematic identity (i.e. the Everwinter, etc.) and turn everything back to bish-bosh Ogre Kingdoms 2.0. This is my general feeling on soup tomes in general. I feel like they lost their nerve with cool, aesthetically tied-together factions and are rushing back to the crutch that is the old world armies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Yellow_Sign Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Just now, Kyriakin said: As someone who like BCR for more thematic reasons, I am concerned a Ogre soup tome will strip away our thematic identity (i.e. the Everwinter, etc.) and turn everything back to bish-bosh Ogre Kingdoms 2.0. This is my general feeling on soup tomes in general. I feel like they lost their nerve with cool, aesthetically tied-together factions and are rushing back to the crutch that is the old world armies. I'm glad, for one. I liked the old Ogre Kingdoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Kyriakin said: As someone who like BCR for more thematic reasons, I am concerned a Ogre soup tome will strip away our thematic identity (i.e. the Everwinter, etc.) and turn everything back to bish-bosh Ogre Kingdoms 2.0. This is my general feeling on soup tomes in general. I feel like they lost their nerve with cool, aesthetically tied-together factions and are rushing back to the crutch that is the old world armies. I think this is about giving themselves breathing room to expand into more unique, spin-off armies. It's a lot easier to do that when 50% of your range isn't stuck in obscurity with barely playable rules, especially when it's very confusing to a newcomer why X has a Battletome and Y doesn't. Can you imagine the state of Death in 2019 if it hadn't received Legions of Nagash, for example? But now it's a thing, they're able to potentially expand on things like Soulblight without leaving most of the range in the dust. Edited July 20, 2019 by Clan's Cynic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, The_Yellow_Sign said: It's a battletome that will get Warscroll rewrites. When they rewrite warscrolls, they will be trying not to step on the toes of Stormcast scrolls Na. I don't believe that sorry. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth 🍄 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) Quote Season 3 can now be officially named – welcome to Warhammer Underworlds: Beastgrave! Bringing the ultimate competitive miniatures game to the heart of a living mountain in Ghur, the Realm of Beasts, we’re incredibly excited to see just what warbands and mechanics we can look forward to. Edited July 20, 2019 by Gareth 🍄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) Are those... Centaur? But elves? Edited July 20, 2019 by Clan's Cynic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyriakin Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Clan's Cynic said: I think this is about giving themselves breathing room to expand into more unique, spin-off armies. It's a lot easier to do that when 50% of your range isn't stuck in obscurity with barely playable rules, especially when it's very confusing to a newcomer why X has a Battletome and Y doesn't. Well, I thought this when LoN came out. Give old Vampire Counts players a chance to have fun with their old armies, while waiting for Soulblight, Deathrattle, Deadwalkers, etc. However, those other faction names seem functionally extinct now, and we have just a motley crew of random zombies, skeletons and vampires with very little visual cohesion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Kyriakin said: Well, I thought this when LoN came out. Give old Vampire Counts players a chance to have fun with their old armies, while waiting for Soulblight, Deathrattle, Deadwalkers, etc. However, those other faction names seem functionally extinct now, and we have just a motley crew of random zombies, skeletons and vampires with very little visual cohesion. It's only been about a year since Legions of Nagash came out and AoS2 has, thus far, largely been about trying to bring armies without a Battletome up to speed. We'll see spin-offs of them eventually, it's just not going to happen overnight with such a full schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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