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Blackspine

Gordrakk as part of battalion?

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I'm a new (very new) Destruction player, had years of Maggotkin/Chaos experience, but the waaagh is new to me.

Looking at Gordrakk's command ability is very tempting to a new player. I know that he suffers the same fate as most named characters (can't take more defensive tools, artifacts/ etc) and he's very much overpriced.

Is it possible to fit him within battalions? Non-mega battalions?

Is he even worth it as a mid/late game threat? My thoughts were that he'd buff up so many Orruks that they'd be damage dealers by sheer weight of number.

If he can fit in battalions.

Thanks!

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Sadly Gorrdrakk doesn't fit in any battalions other than an old realm gate wars narrative one. He's most commonly seen leading Gorefists and other battalions of that ilk, but as an additional choice not within those battalions. 

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Thanks.
Am I reading his ability correctly?
If he uses his ability on a unit, if that unit is in a battalion, it affects the entire battalion?
Or

does he need to be part of said battalion (which he cannot be)

 

Thanks!

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7 minutes ago, Blackspine said:

Thanks.
Am I reading his ability correctly?
If he uses his ability on a unit, if that unit is in a battalion, it affects the entire battalion?
Or

does he need to be part of said battalion (which he cannot be)

 

Thanks!

You are reading it correctly. He doesn't have to be in the battalion and it affects any entire destruction battalion. 

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I would just add to that - he cannot be in a batallion for 2000 point matched play.

He can be part of Bloodtoofs or Ironsunz from the GH (they include any  Ironjawz unit), but he doesn't fit in the points with the minimum batallion requirements (comes to 2020 minimum).

You can quite easily fit him in a Bloodtoofs or Ironsunz at 2500 points, if you're playing at that level.

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Nah he fits fine:

mawkrusha

gordrakk

4x 3 gruntas

ironfist

bloodtoofs

 

1880

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@Rid

Your List isn't valid because the bloodtoof Battalion has the restriction, that the ironfist battalion must include 5 units (your list has only 4)

 

And the cheapest configuration would be this like @PlasticCraic said with the points:

Allegiance: Destruction
Gordrakk the Fist of Gork (580)
Megaboss on Maw-Krusha (440)
- Boss Gore-hacka and Scrap-tooth
3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (140)
- Pig-iron Choppas
3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (140)
- Pig-iron Choppas
3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (140)
- Pig-iron Choppas
3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (140)
- Pig-iron Choppas
3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (140)
- Pig-iron Choppas
Ironfist (180)
Bloodtoofs (120)

Total: 2020 / 2000

 

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So Gordrakk is a mega moss on maw krusha, why can’t he be the bloodtoofs boss?

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40 minutes ago, Bladesway said:

So Gordrakk is a mega moss on maw krusha, why can’t he be the bloodtoofs boss?

Bit of a necro but no. It's to do with keyword bold

If something is printed in keyword bold, so Ironjawz, then its refering to any unit which has that keyword on the bottom of the warscroll.

If it's not keyword bold then it's referring to only the warscroll with that exact name. So for bloodtoofs it's not in keyword bold therefore it can only be the normal cabbage.

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But now he can fit in Bloodtoofs or ironsunz with all the pts drops so it’s gravy

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On 5/24/2019 at 10:14 AM, EMMachine said:

@Rid

Your List isn't valid because the bloodtoof Battalion has the restriction, that the ironfist battalion must include 5 units (your list has only 4)

 

And the cheapest configuration would be this like @PlasticCraic said with the points:

Allegiance: Destruction
Gordrakk the Fist of Gork (580)
Megaboss on Maw-Krusha (440)
- Boss Gore-hacka and Scrap-tooth
3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (140)
- Pig-iron Choppas
3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (140)
- Pig-iron Choppas
3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (140)
- Pig-iron Choppas
3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (140)
- Pig-iron Choppas
3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (140)
- Pig-iron Choppas
Ironfist (180)
Bloodtoofs (120)

Total: 2020 / 2000

 

I think he now fits because the MK costs 420.

 

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1 minute ago, Luzgurbel said:

I think he now fits because the MK costs 420.

 

Yeah, with all the point changes the list is now 1920 Points, so a warchanter could be included as well.

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Is anyone planning on doing this? 

I ran a 2500 points Bloodtoofs at our club championships last year and did pretty well, but that was before Activation Wars were in full swing.  I'm not sure it would go all that well currently?

Feels like a build that would "win more"in what are already good matchups, and would have a pretty hard ceiling in its bad matchups - or have I got that wrong?

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You can now run Gordrakk in a Ironsunz/Bloodtoofs battalion with 5x units of Gruntas (or Ardboys) with 80pts left over for a Warchanter, Gloomspite Shaman or CP

I personally prefer the Ironsunz for using Gordrakk and Gruntas as the -1 to hit improves Big G’s survivability and Gruntas don’t necessarily need extra bravery 

D3 additional attacks and wounds on the compulsory MBMK is fun. And he could have either a Metalrippers Claw, Etheral Amulet, Ignax’s Scales or Doppleganger Cloak 

for funsies 

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I plan to run it yeah, because at some point the stars will be right and you will smash n bash most of their army off the board in one go 🤘🏿

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It also fits in a 2000 list:

 

Allegiance: Ironjawz
Mortal Realm: Hysh

Leaders
Megaboss on Maw-Krusha (420)
- General
- Choppa and Rip-tooth fist
- Trait: Prophet of the Waaagh! 
- Artefact: Metalrippa's Klaw 
Gordrakk the Fist of Gork (560)
Orruk Warchanter (80)
- Artefact: Aetherquartz Brooch 

Battleline
10 x Orruk Ardboys (140)
10 x Orruk Ardboys (140)
3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (140)
- Pig-iron Choppas
3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (140)
- Pig-iron Choppas
3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (140)
- Pig-iron Choppas

Battalions
Ironsunz (80)
Ironfist (160)

Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 2
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 120
 

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