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Lol Greenskins listed but Gitmob not. RIP.

 

Not only were Ogors listed under one choice (dunno if that implies an impending combination or just irrelevance and they wanted to save space) but Dispossessed and Ironweld were under one choice too.

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This year my vote was for my Boys in Black in 40K.

But I did ask for some free people on underworld.

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1 hour ago, novakai said:

Really liked the survey. Did make a note of the part where they asked what we feel about battalion drops, first turn picks, and double-turns. With some luck that leads to a.. eh, adjustment to the current system - Provided the statistics share my opinions about it, and it doesn't turn out that most people love all three of those

** Sorry! Quoted wrong person, Mayple, but cannot seem to fix attribution.

 

I noted that as well, but it worried me.

If those were changed, I believe it would need more than a GHB points adjustment.  I think it would give them a reason to redo all the Battletomes and Warscroll cards I own. :(

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10 minutes ago, AlmGandix3 said:

Do you get a new email after the survey ? It froze at the very end and I don't know if I have to redo everything.

It is happening a lot.

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3 hours ago, Overread said:

People (and skaven) remember we must remain united in these trying times. Remember the values of kith and kin, of family and of proper decency  as GW asks our thoughts again

Remember the ashes of the fallen

Remember your mothers

VOTE FOR TOMB KINGS! 

Oh Yeah! ****** you Settrus!

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4 hours ago, Overread said:

People (and skaven) remember we must remain united in these trying times. Remember the values of kith and kin, of family and of proper decency  as GW asks our thoughts again

Remember the ashes of the fallen

Remember your mothers

VOTE FOR TOMB KINGS! 

So people can not play them again? They had an 8th edition book that wasn't even half bad and hardly anyone played them. I would much rather they focus on the other armies that they haven't brought in line in AOS personally. 

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2 minutes ago, Lord Veshnakar said:

So people can not play them again? They had an 8th edition book that wasn't even half bad and hardly anyone played them. I would much rather they focus on the other armies that they haven't brought in line in AOS personally. 

Lets not forget that 8th edition was a dead in the water product in GW terms in general - nothing was selling all that well at the time (save likely right before the end when GW suddenly focused all guns on it with End Times). Also I recall reading that the main issue was that other armies (like Vampires) just did everything TK did "better" in the game and were already skeleton focuesd to some degree. 

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TBH I think "Fix KO" post is probably going to be the largest request from the survey, considering how people have consistently have asked that from GW. it then probably followed by "less Stormcast release" 

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I totally forgot to put Fix KO somewhere in the survey, at least I got bring back the Tomb Kings in some fashion in there though.

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12 hours ago, Future said:

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Is GW testing the water to flesh stormcast out into color coded chapters?

Stormcast already have colour-coded chapters! They just don't have separate books/minis yet 

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Every AoS faction that has a current 2.0 battletome has subfactions with official colour schemes within them. 

The problem is some are so similar you'd never easily tell them apart - most of the Daughters of Khaine ones are pretty much the same roster or similar roster of colours to the point where you could easily paint a whole army with different units from a different temple and they would blend together really well. Also most of the sub-armies are basically only getting a small selection of abilities. You make a specific sub-faction and it basically ties you to a very specific block of tactics because the bonus is close combat based or ranged based or sneaky based etc.....

So in general I think they should be there for lore and flavour; but shouldn't be a fix thing. It's not like Space Marines with their individual chapters which each have their own Codex, their own unique units and styles and also a full roster of combat options and varied abilities for multiple builds and designs. 

 

And honestly I don't want GW to go down that pathway, I think it works one off as a Marine feature, but I think trying it for every other army is just a massive risk that we end up with GW front loading one or two armies and then finding that they cannot, in any sane way, support it long term whilst also keeping other armies up to date. Fast ending up with it being decades between new models for other forces and crippling GW with too many products spread too thin. GW are big, but they have limits and honestly I feel that 40K and AoS are very close to those limits which are practical for GW and the market. 

 

I like the subfaction ideas in general, I just feel that they should 100% remain a rules only thing and not move into models. IF GW did then I'd really hope the way they did it would be with subfaction specific niche models - like a single troops choice or elite models or heroes/unique. So your subfaction of Stormcast is identical to core stormcast, but has a few extra rules and 2 new models. That way all the core releases remain valid for each subfaction; each player is encouraged to buy into several subfactions (because its affordable) and GW only has to support the core army to support all the subfactions at once. New Liberator Sculpt updates for all the Stormcast at once. 

Tie it to painting as an option but not mandatory, esp since otherwise people will just paint their stormcast bright pink and say "its a unique scheme and thus it can be any chamber" whilst the poor guy who painted them in an official scheme would be stuck with only one choice (very unfair esp as many who go that path are likely to be new/beginners who followed the guides in the book) 

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I feel like due to the small roster, subdividing gutbusters and/or BCR would really cause a big problem in model count and formation variety due to splitting a small roster into an even smaller roster

 

I like the idea for fluff reasons but I don't think it should force you to use the rules if you really can't afford that blow to your unit selection

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4 hours ago, robinlvalentine said:

Stormcast already have colour-coded chapters! They just don't have separate books/minis yet 

^This

I'm really not looking forward to a 40k like situation where 20% of all codexes are just a variation of marines in a different colour and 2-3 unique units. 

AoS actually has a more healthy mix of armies and I hope they don't ****** that up like they did for 40k.  Big burly dudes in heavy armor can exist for every grand alliance essentially, but not if they leave factions like Ironjawz lingering (compared to stormcast at least). 

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2 hours ago, peasant said:

No maggotkin of nurgle but nurgle rotbringers...

Used the wrong name. Not a huge deal. I hope demons get a bit of a buff tho, in all four armies.

I hope beasts get a point drop. I want to use them but they are so bad. thanks

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57 minutes ago, Elmir said:

^This

I'm really not looking forward to a 40k like situation where 20% of all codexes are just a variation of marines in a different colour and 2-3 unique units. 

AoS actually has a more healthy mix of armies and I hope they don't ****** that up like they did for 40k.  Big burly dudes in heavy armor can exist for every grand alliance essentially, but not if they leave factions like Ironjawz lingering (compared to stormcast at least). 

You are absolutly right, but I cant help myself but think, corrupted Stormcast by Nagash, Chaos, or a 'Wild Tribe' Stormcast for Destruction could be pretty sweet.

 

Im with you that they shouldnt do it like in 40k. The #1 reason for me to never start 40k where that I could Play Space Marines, Space Marines or Chaos Space Marines. (I'm Aware that there are other races, but for me it seemed that way)

 

But some way down the line I could find it pretty nice to have Stormcasts for every Allegiance.

Of course after they updated the current range and so on.

 

God knows I say all the time we have enoughStormcast for now :D

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19 minutes ago, Maier666 said:

You are absolutly right, but I cant help myself but think, corrupted Stormcast by Nagash, Chaos, or a 'Wild Tribe' Stormcast for Destruction could be pretty sweet.

 

Im with you that they shouldnt do it like in 40k. The #1 reason for me to never start 40k where that I could Play Space Marines, Space Marines or Chaos Space Marines. (I'm Aware that there are other races, but for me it seemed that way)

 

But some way down the line I could find it pretty nice to have Stormcasts for every Allegiance.

Of course after they updated the current range and so on.

 

God knows I say all the time we have enoughStormcast for now :D

No.

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Ogors for every allegiance 2020

 

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Chaos ogors are happening first though :(
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  • better proofreading,
  • books/scroll cards which arent redundant 2 weeks after release,
  • forgeworld and gw cohesion ( they're the same company after all ) 
  • dice you can read properly 
  • better rules for terrain
  • better examples from warhammer world on what is good ( terrain )
  • forgeworld range in warhammer stores
  • a bits service, or individual model purchase 
  • more collectors edition stuff
  • better paint pots,
  • update older models faster
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So they listed Ironweld arsenal along side Dispossessed. *puts on gromril foil hat* This clearly means the the Dispossessed battle tome is imminent and it's bring back the Dwarf war machines too.

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3 minutes ago, TheR00zle said:

It's that time of the week ladies and gentlemen(plus skaven), PLACE YOUR BETS!RumourEngine-Apr16-Content2ujcds.jpg.468198657b62d696ab02239b520386bb.jpg

well I am stump it could be literally anything

Edit: they say decode on the article and KO has their Code of living so I will guess that

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17 hours ago, Sleboda said:

** Sorry! Quoted wrong person, Mayple, but cannot seem to fix attribution.

 

I noted that as well, but it worried me.

If those were changed, I believe it would need more than a GHB points adjustment.  I think it would give them a reason to redo all the Battletomes and Warscroll cards I own. :(

I wouldn't be too worried ;) Unless you're thinking about battalions, which would probably be affected, at least point-wise. Worst-case scenario they would end up making the battalion ones "better" as far as ability goes, as the one-drop selling point would be disappearing. 

I've been slowly trying out 40k lately, and one of the things I find greatly enjoyable about it has been the complete absence of double turns. It's hard to describe how much more relaxed those matches are, both mentally and generally mood-wise. Not to say it's not strategically intense, but more that whatever mistakes happens from that would be my own fault, rather than the sudden, and complete random "oh, looks like I'm watching you play for 15 minutes more." **


**Mind that there are still things people can do in Age of Sigmar to prevent getting double-turned hard (make less risky plays right before a potential doubleturn, position into a place they want to be for more turns, etc) -- but it feels -so good- to not have to stress about it. I think Age of Sigmar would benefit greatly from removing its doubleturn potential. 

Bit of a ramble, but it seemed, ah.. relevant :)

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17 hours ago, Lord Veshnakar said:

So people can not play them again? They had an 8th edition book that wasn't even half bad and hardly anyone played them. I would much rather they focus on the other armies that they haven't brought in line in AOS personally. 

That book was, not even bring hyperbolic, the worst book in the history of Warhammer. Neat background, abysmal rules from a writer who was totally out of his depth. 

Compared to the previous book for them, which was probably the best, most balanced and fun book in the game, it was a tragedy of gaming.

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