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I don't want to seem paranoid, but then I am a skaven player...

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23 minutes ago, Kirjava13 said:

I don't want to seem paranoid, but then I am a skaven player...

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Oh look its me!

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As a high elf player i already arranged my Swordmasters, SeaGuard, High Warden and Reavers  funeral.

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Something honestly went wrong with Island of blood and you can tell Fantasy was really suffering with sales and support when GW releases a slew of new sculpts for 2 major factions and fails to ever release them after the combined boxed set. My betting is that Island of Blood sold really badly - or at least not enough to recoup the investment and make it viable to produces more moulds for the separate sprues. IT might also have been a huge mistake that they wound up on the same sprues as that totally broke the chance for GW to release separate boxed sets for each army. 

I think in the transition into AoS and all the madness that followed its just something that hasn't yet got back on the table. Thankfully Skaven are still in a strong position - High Elves though are in a really precarious position right now - actually the only Aelves we've got are Daughters of Khaine. That kind of hits home at how ina mess Aelves are right now. I figure we might well see them re-unite them or at least some; but its near impossible to tell what they will do and the current store page lists them all under one umbrella (that's bold if they try to do a single Aelf Battletome considering that high and dark aelves are vastly different in designs. 

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The best way to guess what is coming this year is to compare with last year.

Last year aos got 1 starter set with core book, 1 expansion with minis, 1 campaign book with minis, 7 battletomes, 4 major waves of minis and one smaller wave of minis, and a bunch of underworlds stuff.

40k had 10 or so codexes, but only 3 big waves of minis.  They also had 3 campaign boxes,  1 campaign book with minis, 3 major boxed games and a mountain of kill team stuff 

Specialist games released two big boxed games and assorted smaller releases.

2018 was definitely the year of the big boxed game. 11 big boxes and a handful of smaller games like space marine adventures.  

It will be interesting to see if 2019 follows suit. We already have one with carrion empire. 

Looking at 2019  we will definitely see fewer codexes. With most of the codexes done it suggests the rules and background team would have note time to work on aos battletomes. 

I can't believe we will have so many boxed games this year so there will probably be more standard book plus minis releases than last year. With black legion, primaris 2,  sisters and Slaanesh alk but confirmed and gsc already finished I would expect 40k to get more big releases this year. 

So maybe 6 40k and 4 aos. 

So gloomspite,  slaves to Darkness Slaanesh and one more big release.  We may get one or two Dok sized releases too but not much more than that. 

So my predictions for 2019 are :

major releases:

gloomspite 

slaves to Darkness 

Slaanesh 

one mystery book

book, terrain and endless spells only:

Skaven

FEC

Seraphon 

fyreslayers 

slyvaneth 

Ko

Ironjawz (this might be a Dok style release or even the fourth big release)

there's a good chance we will get one or two more campaign boxes like carrion empire.

 

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curious, how long has it been since they stopped selling the metal Warpfire Thrower?

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Seems like a real shame that possibly the definitive skaven warmachine, and a unit that's been around debuted with the very first skaven miniatures has gone the way of the dwarf miner because it was redone in plastic for long enough for the metal model to be discontinued, then discontinued entirely when it had the misfortune of sharing a sprue with some High Elves. :( 

In-setting you could probably say that with warpfire projectors being the sole piece of kit worth taking Stormfiends for, the Arch-Warlocks of Skrye ordered a mass recall of weapons team manned (ratted?) warpfire throwers to keep up with the demand. ;) 

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3 minutes ago, Double Misfire said:

Seems like a real shame that possibly the definitive skaven warmachine, and a unit that's been around debuted with the very first skaven miniatures has gone the way of the dwarf miner because it was redone in plastic for long enough for the metal model to be discontinued, then discontinued entirely when it had the misfortune of sharing a sprue with some High Elves. :( 

In-setting you could probably say that with warpfire projectors being the sole piece of kit worth taking Stormfiends for, the Arch-Warlocks of Skrye ordered a mass recall of weapons team manned (ratted?) warpfire throwers to keep up with the demand. ;) 

Aelves got it worse. We losing High Warden, Swordmasters,  SeaGuard and Reavers :(

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There is a warp fire thrower in art that they show off from the new battle tome. I wouldn’t worry about it. If scryre acolytes are still in I doubt the book will lose anything but rat swarms. Rat swarms are conspicuously absent from the Moulder army shot they show off.

Now I would not be super surprised if they streamline the ranged weapon teams to all have the same stats and profile and just be called something like “Scryre Weapon Team” so that people can use whatever model they want wether warpfire thrower, rattling gun, or mortar

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8 hours ago, Aryann said:

Just one more thing. Past Stormcast releases made me expect more from a faction update or second wave. If each year Stormcasts receive several new models, abilities, spells, battletome then I would be really disappointed if the only thing Fyreslayers or Ironjawz receive is a "3 spells and scenery" treatment. Those and some other factions have so little units that isn't even funny compared to Stormcasts or few others. 

This!

The Carrion Empire box makes me speculate we could see a box of Ironjawz vs Fyreslayers, but it would be very disappointing if both factions did not receive any new units outside the expected battletome, scenery and endless spells/runes?. Currently, both factions are limited in options in terms of troop choice and playstyle. The latter will benefit from the new tomes, but it might be hampered if Fyreslayers and Ironjawz do not receive new models to shake up army lists.

For the rest of LVO, I believe we'll find out when Slaanesh and Everchosen/StD/Darkoath are coming out. Wouldn't be shocked if Seraphon are also teased, would be shocked though if they receive new models. Personally I would love it if they throw us a Dispossessed battletome out of nowhere. My wallet would hate me for all the bearded stunties I would buy

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3 hours ago, herohammer said:

There is a warp fire thrower in art that they show off from the new battle tome. I wouldn’t worry about it. If scryre acolytes are still in I doubt the book will lose anything but rat swarms. Rat swarms are conspicuously absent from the Moulder army shot they show off.

Now I would not be super surprised if they streamline the ranged weapon teams to all have the same stats and profile and just be called something like “Scryre Weapon Team” so that people can use whatever model they want wether warpfire thrower, rattling gun, or mortar

There are rat swarms in this photo, to the right of the very rat swarm-esque Endless Spell, so looks like they're still in

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4 minutes ago, robinlvalentine said:

There are rat swarms in this photo, to the right of the very rat swarm-esque Endless Spell, so looks like they're still in

 

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Those are giant rats, they're a different unit.

Oh they are in there, I didn't even see them down there in the corner.

 

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Giant Rats -> Endless Spell -> Rat Swarms 

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Imo people are expecting too much from the LVO reveal. 

My bet would be we see the remaining shadespire warbands and a teaser of the next aos release but nothing definitive. Like some form of teaser video without showing any models. 

 

Gloomspite gitz was a pretty big release after all, and we'd just have skaven and fec dropping. I'd expect much more in the 40k side of things as they're due for a new release. 

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13 minutes ago, someone2040 said:

I'd expect much more in the 40k side of things as they're due for a new release. 

That would make sense since the rumored new Primaris flyer isn‘t out yet

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Just for reference, this was last year's LVO reveal. Now of course we might get or less this time, and I imagine with a heavier 40k focus this time around, I'm crossing my fingers for some Black Legion reveals. 

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/26/new-codexes-factions-our-heroes-and-more-breaking-news-from-the-las-vegas-opengw-homepage-post-1/

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20 minutes ago, someone2040 said:

Imo people are expecting too much from the LVO reveal. 

My bet would be we see the remaining shadespire warbands and a teaser of the next aos release but nothing definitive. Like some form of teaser video without showing any models. 

 

Gloomspite gitz was a pretty big release after all, and we'd just have skaven and fec dropping. I'd expect much more in the 40k side of things as they're due for a new release. 

The more you expect the more disappointed you can be. From previous experiences, we might get shown things completely unexpected in volume completely different than we imagined. Best practice, expect nothing, appreciate what will be shown. GW is really good at creating the hype which in no way correspond to the reveals (like when we were shown warqueen and some logos last year). Luckily this time it is LVO so reveal can be bigger than usual.

We will know in around 48 hours ;)

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8 hours ago, Overread said:

Something honestly went wrong with Island of blood and you can tell Fantasy was really suffering with sales and support when GW releases a slew of new sculpts for 2 major factions and fails to ever release them after the combined boxed set. My betting is that Island of Blood sold really badly - or at least not enough to recoup the investment and make it viable to produces more moulds for the separate sprues. IT might also have been a huge mistake that they wound up on the same sprues as that totally broke the chance for GW to release separate boxed sets for each army. 

I think in the transition into AoS and all the madness that followed its just something that hasn't yet got back on the table. Thankfully Skaven are still in a strong position - High Elves though are in a really precarious position right now - actually the only Aelves we've got are Daughters of Khaine. That kind of hits home at how ina mess Aelves are right now. I figure we might well see them re-unite them or at least some; but its near impossible to tell what they will do and the current store page lists them all under one umbrella (that's bold if they try to do a single Aelf Battletome considering that high and dark aelves are vastly different in designs. 

Idoneth are also elves, so there's two elf factions right now.

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I don't think we will ever see Island of Blood sculpts again to be honest. Dark Vengeance for 40k had an excellent chaos lord, cultists and marines as well as a load of Dark Angels sculpts that have never been released. If you want chaos cultists in 40k you currently have to buy them in a box of 5 with all the same monopose, even though DV came with loads of options. 

Basically anything with shared sprues is dead. 

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6 minutes ago, The_Yellow_Sign said:

Idoneth are also elves, so there's two elf factions right now.

I would also class Sylvaneth as elves, which makes three (or tree?).

 

The repacked Island of Blood box that they sold very cheaply some time ago, would indicate that they indeed had quite much of unsold stock around. On the other hand I have understood that high elves were one of the most popular armies of old Fantasy.

 

One thing to keep in mind is that I believe all of the 40k codexes have now been updated and they pushed them out few books per month last year or two, so getting a lot of Battletomes this year with no new models besides the Made in China stuff should be pretty much given.

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1 hour ago, The_Yellow_Sign said:

Idoneth are also elves, so there's two elf factions right now.

They hardly feel like it.

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1 hour ago, HollowHills said:

I don't think we will ever see Island of Blood sculpts again to be honest. Dark Vengeance for 40k had an excellent chaos lord, cultists and marines as well as a load of Dark Angels sculpts that have never been released. If you want chaos cultists in 40k you currently have to buy them in a box of 5 with all the same monopose, even though DV came with loads of options. 

Basically anything with shared sprues is dead. 

Aren't the Silver Tower minis on shared sprues? They released the Ogroid and the foot Gaunt Summoner alongside Tzeentch (oh, and the Knight-Questor for SCE). I mean sure, that might be a blip, but I'd be surprised if they didn't repackage the Deathrunner at some point (curious that it hasn't been mentioned). After all, for better or worse this release has embraced a degree of asset recycling, so why not give clan Eshin their only new hero in AoS? 

GW took some positive steps in releasing some of the original starter set separately (Vandus and Korgos Khul). I think the Bloodsecrator and Khorgos box is sold out, but the models are still available in one half of the original starter, as they split the factions into Thunderstrike Brotherhood and Goreblade Warband boxes. While I feel for SCE player being unable to get a Relictor separately (well, other than Ebay), having them disappear entirely is way worse.

The whole limited edition model question is more pertinent when it's a distinct model (like the Ogroid or Khorgorath). When it's just an alternative sculpt of an existing unit, like the Silver Tower blue horrors,  it's not such a problem. The caveat to this is when there's a quality disparity between the up-to-date looking limited edition sculpt and the 'official' model: a hideous hunk of resin/metal. The webstore  Rat Ogors beside the Spire ones are like... well, Mantic beside Citadel. 

But there's no definitive precedent. After all, the Darkoath Chieftain, Warpriest and Fyreslayer from Silver Tower are not on sale. Are they to be released alongside their parent faction getting an update? Who knows? 

 

I mean, the fact that they've implied no new models *technically* doesn't preclude them from putting the ST Deathrunner up for pre-order on the 16th. Fingers crossed for Eshin fans. 

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3 minutes ago, Klamm said:

Aren't the Silver Tower minis on shared sprues? They released the Ogroid and the foot Gaunt Summoner alongside Tzeentch (oh, and the Knight-Questor for SCE). I mean sure, that might be a blip, but I'd be surprised if they didn't repackage the Deathrunner at some point (curious that it hasn't been mentioned). After all, for better or worse this release has embraced a degree of asset recycling, so why not give clan Eshin their only new hero in AoS? 

GW took some positive steps in releasing some of the original starter set separately (Vandus and Korgos Khul). I think the Bloodsecrator and Khorgos box is sold out, but the models are still available in one half of the original starter, as they split the factions into Thunderstrike Brotherhood and Goreblade Warband boxes. While I feel for SCE player being unable to get a Relictor separately (well, other than Ebay), having them disappear entirely is way worse.

The whole limited edition model question is more pertinent when it's a distinct model (like the Ogroid or Khorgorath). When it's just an alternative sculpt of an existing unit, like the Silver Tower blue horrors,  it's not such a problem. The caveat to this is when there's a quality disparity between the up-to-date looking limited edition sculpt and the 'official' model: a hideous hunk of resin/metal. The webstore  Rat Ogors beside the Spire ones are like... well, Mantic beside Citadel. 

But there's no definitive precedent. After all, the Darkoath Chieftain, Warpriest and Fyreslayer from Silver Tower are not on sale. Are they to be released alongside their parent faction getting an update? Who knows? 

 

I mean, the fact that they've implied no new models *technically* doesn't preclude them from putting the ST Deathrunner up for pre-order on the 16th. Fingers crossed for Eshin fans. 

No, the Gaunt Summoner (without the Familiars) and the Ogroid were on separate, individual sprues, as for the Heroes. 

The Skaven, Grots and Tzeentch minions where all on shared sprues

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