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4 hours ago, Bloodmaster said:

Or they could say something at nova next week. Nevertheless, the next few months won't be bleak, with or without destruction. There are so many new toys coming, that there isn't enough time to handle a fraction of what is worth to get your hands on. 

I'm glad people are getting things they want.  As a destruction player GW has gotten some dice and malign sorcery money from me.

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2 hours ago, Raviv said:

Do you think the Nightvault might be Slaanesh prison? The teaser included some purple vines and stuff.

Nope.  Moonclan Grots used to be Night Goblins.  This is obviously a reference to where they keep their most rare and precious fungus.

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1 hour ago, froo said:

Well, I don't want to be that guy, but keen eyes viewers will notice that those grots have 6 limbs while the silver tower scuttlings have distinctly 8 limbs which would suggest insectoid rather than arachnoid.

 

Tinfoil Hat time, perhaps they're thinking about some crazy insect based chaos grot thing. There were hobgoblins that served the Chaos Dwarves backs in the day, so there is precedent if they wanted to explore that idea.

6 limbs look a lot more aesthetically pleasing to the eyes*, so I wouldn't be surprised if those are simply an updated scuttlings look.

Scuttlings are also completely absent from the rules right now (i.e: they're not in the app. Correct me if I am wrong)

*Subjective opinion is subjective, and I am arachnophobic so eight limbs will always give me a sense of "wrongness" ;) so don't take my word for it, but I figured I'd bring up the possibility.

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10 hours ago, LLV said:

Just read some of the comments. Yeah my bad. I was told literally that grots would be shown today. As I said above something got changed for some reason. So yeah my bad and apologies, but I’m only passing on stuff I’ve been told, and as I’ve said previously the schedule has been changing a lot. Interesting they showed a beast an spell though, so maybe we will see them squeezed in this year after all.

 

Nothing  to apologise for mate, and please never stop sharing what you've heard! 

Yeah I think it's quite plausible that they did the switch BECAUSE of the heavy rumours... when they have NOVA right next week it's an easy switch. We shall see! 

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Don't we still have gobbo and darkoath factions upcoming to match the MP heralds? My guess is that Endless Spell is for Darkoath. 

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It is extremely plausible that they intended speed freeks to be the big Nova reveal but changed things up after the leaks. There is definitely more to come this autumn.

We have 17 preorder weeks before the Christmas cut off. 

So we have

Kill team/ rogue trader- 2 weeks

Orks- 4 weeks

Underworlds -1 week

Middle Earth -1 week

Christmas bundles 2- weeks

Necromunda/ bloodbowl / Titanicus sharing a week with other releases. (we had Cawdor and aos minis  at the same time)

That leaves 7 weeks unaccounted for. 

Plenty of time for a major aos release but probably not two. 

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All of the Speed Freaks and buggy teasers so far have referred to Orktober.  It seems pretty obvious that we can expect October to be mainly comprised of 40k Orc releases.

The question is what are they going to do for September and November.

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2 minutes ago, Skabnoze said:

The question is what are they going to do for September and November.

One of them will probably be Warhammer Underworlds given last year it was released Octoberish

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So is day 2 of the seminar more news? Or games/tournaments? Or something else entirely? 

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Just now, Barkanaut said:

So is day 2 of the seminar more news? Or games/tournaments? Or something else entirely? 

wouldnt be surprised if they do full reveal of orc boss on bike. remake of the old janky plastic one (driver + boss on back)lol

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2 hours ago, Skabnoze said:

The question is what are they going to do for September and November.

Genestealer Cults for WH40k in November most likely.

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Well according to LLV november was for Rogue Trader :

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Grot-tember, Ork-tober, rogue-vember, angron-cember..... 

But maybe, the schedule got once again changed ;) 

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7 hours ago, Skabnoze said:

Nope.  Moonclan Grots used to be Night Goblins.  This is obviously a reference to where they keep their most rare and precious fungus.

A Nighthaunt vs. Grots Underworld starter would be super cool ?

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2 hours ago, Stealth_Hobo said:

Genestealer Cults for WH40k in November most likely.

I'd wager Genestealer Cults for next week considering that they just released the combined Genestealer and Spacewolves boxed set this week. Was surprised they didn't do wolves and Stealers codex in the same week, but a one week wait isn't unreasonable. That would make sense as then it just leaves orks in Orktober and means they don't leave Stealers sitting there twiddling their claws/tentacles/fingers/appendages 

 

There's also AT stuff to come - Warhounds, Reavers and weapon packs. Though as each one of those is basically a single box that might well get released alongside other products unless they do all three in one go. 

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No, GW already said that GSC are giong to be released after Orks.

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1 hour ago, Overread said:

Was surprised they didn't do wolves and Stealers codex in the same week, but a one week wait isn't unreasonable. That would make sense as then it just leaves orks in Orktober and means they don't leave Stealers sitting there twiddling their claws/tentacles/fingers/appendages 

 

1 hour ago, michu said:

No, GW already said that GSC are giong to be released after Orks.

 I am surprised GW keeps making important releases for 40k and holding back AoS considering 2017 has already been the year of 40k and very few AoS releases happened. I was expecting 2018 to be (almost) fully AoS and instead the second half it seems we are getting very few things (now it looks like Darkoath is being pushed back due to change of schedule again) compared to 40k. I am not complaining about everything GW did this year (which it as been great), just a bit disappointed as I was expecting more consideration for AoS.

 

 

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11 hours ago, Overread said:

Because of the spread of games and factions someone will always be disappointed; or if not that at least not as interested and fired up. When there's nothing you want or what you want was already leaked earlier you might not have as much heart into a reveal event as some others. 

Sometimes you just have to filter out the negative viewpoints and accept them for what they are and not let them taint your own impression of events. 

 

 

This. As someone who has followed GW since the early nineties there has never been an equilibrium at events. Never mind the fact that the volume of releases for both Fantasy and 40k and Specialist Games is now is utterly staggering in comparison.  GW have never been even close to being as prodigious as they are now.  You're getting in a quarter now what you would have expected in nearly a year around the early 2000's.

What I will say though is that there seems to be a real absence of reasons to actually go to the event. All reveals up online within minutes at higher fidelity than you'd get to see in the flesh. No demos or dioramas. They were always the reason to go to Games Day etc. Or indeed any Warganmes Show like Salute etc. I would have thought even more so now given that the internet makes trades shows basically obsolete, even loss-making. And as far as I'm aware, there's no unique mini for the event anymore either. That seems a shame.

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We know the first half of 2018 was going to be 40K heavy because GW said they'd release ALL codex within a year or so, clearly  this is going to overshoot some. That said 2019 really needs to be a strong year for Sigmar now that 2.0 is out and GW really needs to build on the power of that launch.

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Guys, drop back to earth!!! Did we got in only 7 month for AoS: nurgle, LoN, DoK, ID, AoS 2, SCE 2, NH, Magic? ho lalalala so few things for AoS!!

I'm just hopping that we get so few things in the next 6 month....

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It's important to realise that if you give an addict more of their drug they rarely if ever ask for less ;)

Also the way Warhammer and 40K are setup its possible for some to end up with long periods where nothing interests them; or more correctly where the armies they can afford to play (time and money) don't get updates, but other cool stuff does. It's why sometimes running one or two armies can be beneficial as it helps spread out the lag time between interesting things. 

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...or running some armies with several viables/interesting builds with or without new allies. Unfortunately, not so many armies are able to do this (LoN, Nurgle, SCE, Order, ....)

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1 hour ago, GeneralZero said:

Guys, drop back to earth!!! Did we got in only 7 month for AoS: nurgle, LoN, DoK, ID, AoS 2, SCE 2, NH, Magic? ho lalalala so few things for AoS!!

I'm just hopping that we get so few things in the next 6 month....

I m gonna quote myself:

"I am not complaining about everything GW did this year (which it as been great), just a bit disappointed as I was expecting more consideration for AoS." 

So mine was just a singular expression of light disappointment toward what I see as a dispartity in consideration toward the two systems. I know we had a lot of releases but 40k too and comparing to last year AoS and 40k releases the ratio is still in favour of 40k (40k had its factions almost all updated while we were getting shadespire and now they are still updating while we get some new stuff) .

That said LONG LIVE GW AND AOS and may them live long and prosper!!!!! 

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2 hours ago, Overread said:

We know the first half of 2018 was going to be 40K heavy because GW said they'd release ALL codex within a year or so, clearly  this is going to overshoot some. That said 2019 really needs to be a strong year for Sigmar now that 2.0 is out and GW really needs to build on the power of that launch.

They posted their highest sales year in history last year. They very much know what they're doing, I wouldn't worry about them not realising the potential of one of their products at this point. A year since Dark Imperium the overwhelming majority of armies have new army books, that's insane by any previous editions standards. Many armies would go through an entire edition without even getting up to code. Hell even Malign Portents which was basically the epilogue to AOS 1 was very well served by products and as a hobby event.

To be honest the 40k Fantasy comparison is kind of weird anyway. There's this notion that there should be equality between them, an even 50:50 split. While this makes sense from a purely abstract notion of fairness, GW has never said it will support both precisely at the same ratio. Moreover the player base globally definitively isn't equal either. So given that the expectancy that both systems be equally as served as each other doesn't actually make much contextual sense.

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39 minutes ago, Nos said:

So given that the expectancy that both systems be equally as served as each other doesn't actually make much contextual sense.

Why not?

You don't get one of the systems to be as popular as the other by supportingly it less, but the other way around. If GW wants AoS to be as popular as 40k (and why wouldn't?) they should invest extra on it.

Having Warhammer Fest be Warhammer 40k Fest doesn't appear to be the best way to promote AoS.

Will NOVA sort this out? Hopefully, but there is no guarantee.

How did GW think a single Endless Spell would be enough to get AoS players hyped, I can't really understand.

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I think people need to get some perspective. GW never released more than 5 fantasy army book in a single year and quite often just 2 or 3. This is year is already tied with 2016 for the most battletomes in a single year at 6. We have also had a new rule book, 3 starter sets, a narrative supplement,  a big magic supplement and a global campaign not to mention 50 free short stories and the generals handbook. 

Back in the day GW would release a rule book one month, a starter set the next, and each army book would get a month to itself as would the magic supplement. So we have had 5 months worth of releases in two.

Personally I think we have just had the best 8 months for fantasy of any kind. Another battletome in the autumn would just be icing on the cake.

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