EccentricCircle Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, Mutton said: How would people feel about alternating phases instead of turns? Like the winner of the battle round roll takes their hero phase first, then the opponent takes their hero phase...continue through movement, shooting, etc. My biggest issue with the double turn is having one person just sitting and waiting for half an hour or more. That would probably be my ideal way of working it. Thats how its done in frostgrave, which makes for a much faster paced and more engaging experience. You are never sat around for ages waiting for your turn, and you have more opportunities to counter things as they happen. Doesn't Middle Earth use alternating activation too? Its been so long since I've played that I'm not certain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrix Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Not sure if it hasn't been mentioned already (tried looking back but so many pages of fyreslayers and survey in here but I have an actual rumor of Bonesplitterz being next for a battletome release. Just a one week thing, terrain and endless spells. My personal guess is one of the spells will be a giant foot.... 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutton Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 30 minutes ago, Forrix said: Not sure if it hasn't been mentioned already (tried looking back but so many pages of fyreslayers and survey in here but I have an actual rumor of Bonesplitterz being next for a battletome release. Just a one week thing, terrain and endless spells. My personal guess is one of the spells will be a giant foot.... What? You mean a real rumor? Are those allowed? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cplhicks Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 A giant foot endless spell for Bonesplitterz is my current number 1 want lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alghero81 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 One of the things I mentioned in the survey is inspired by the new coming soon section of black library in the community site. Would be pretty good to have a rough idea of what is coming in the next 6 months, maybe not detailed or exact dates but like spring new battletomes for Khorne and Ironjawz, Slaanesh release, summer Warcry and something else... I know it’s a long shot but worth mentioning. Would help my painting schedule enormously. On the topic about double turn I would not mind having initiative as an extra value to add to the dice roll, that way you can predict the direction of turns but you still have a random component (1 being failure and so on). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Forrix said: Not sure if it hasn't been mentioned already (tried looking back but so many pages of fyreslayers and survey in here but I have an actual rumor of Bonesplitterz being next for a battletome release. Just a one week thing, terrain and endless spells. My personal guess is one of the spells will be a giant foot.... This would have to be after Hedonites right? I thought GW explicitly said fyreslayers and hedonites were next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scurvydog Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 If Bonesplitterz come before Ironjawz AND get the foot of gork spell (IJ spell atm) in endless spell form then I don't know if I will rage or cry more :s I have no idea how GW plans their schedule with these tings, it makes no sense not to update the most outdated tome they even got new models for. Or have their marketing guys phone around with other IP interests, like TW: Warhammer 2 releasing a lizardmen DLC, aligning stuff with that increased interest would be smart business, but then again, it is GW... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cplhicks Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Maybe ironjawz are getting new models so they will get updated later because of that? They have been often rumored go be getting a second wave of miniatures. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requizen Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Warhammer/GW stores have been told to take Bonesplitterz books off the shelf for a while now, the new Battletome is inevitable. It's possible they do an Orruk book that involves Bonesplitterz, Ironjawz, and Greenskinz like they did Skaventide, but who knows. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrix Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 58 minutes ago, Austin said: This would have to be after Hedonites right? I thought GW explicitly said fyreslayers and hedonites were next. They explicity said Fyreslayers were next (and they were obviously) but not necessarily Hedonites. The rumor has Bonesplitterz before Hedonites which I did find surprising since I assumed Hedonites were coming right after Fyreslayers based on the Adepticon reveal. Note: The giant foot endless spell is %100 my personal guess and was not mentioned in the actual rumor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 I don't think they are going to reveal what the next battletome is going to be until Warhammer fest TBH they also have a lot of other stuff to release like Killteam Elites, Slaanesh, Blackstone chaos Commissar, and the bloodbowl halflling team that probably will fill the release schedule until then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, Forrix said: They explicity said Fyreslayers were next (and they were obviously) but not necessarily Hedonites. The rumor has Bonesplitterz before Hedonites which I did find surprising since I assumed Hedonites were coming right after Fyreslayers based on the Adepticon reveal. Note: The giant foot endless spell is %100 my personal guess and was not mentioned in the actual rumor. Ah good call! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Veshnakar Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Sleboda said: That book was, not even bring hyperbolic, the worst book in the history of Warhammer. Neat background, abysmal rules from a writer who was totally out of his depth. Compared to the previous book for them, which was probably the best, most balanced and fun book in the game, it was a tragedy of gaming. Are we talking about the same army book? I am talking about this one pictured below. It was actually a really fun army. Sure the horsemen and tomb swarms were ****** but still, the army had some tricks the Necropolis Knights and Tomb Guard were great. The previous incarnation however was absolute trash, almost as bad as the 6th edition dark elf book pre-revision, except for maybe the shenanigans you could pull off with the Icon Of Rakaph Tomb Guard or the Hieratic Jar/Cloak of Dunes liche priest. I know you used to play Tomb Kings as well because I remember you from those forums, so I am honestly kind of confused. Sure they weren't Daemons/Dark Elves/Vampire Counts, but it wasn't a terrible book. Edited April 16, 2019 by Lord Veshnakar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neffelo Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 5 hours ago, Forrix said: Not sure if it hasn't been mentioned already (tried looking back but so many pages of fyreslayers and survey in here but I have an actual rumor of Bonesplitterz being next for a battletome release. Just a one week thing, terrain and endless spells. My personal guess is one of the spells will be a giant foot.... I would honestly be surprised if Bonesplitterz got their own tome again. 2.0 Seems to have been doing some consolidation work, and I think they could be rolled into IronJawz pretty easy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleboda Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Lord Veshnakar said: Are we talking about the same army book? I am talking about this one pictured below. It was actually a really fun army. Sure the horsemen and tomb swarms were ****** but still, the army had some tricks the Necropolis Knights and Tomb Guard were great. The previous incarnation however was absolute trash, almost as bad as the 6th edition dark elf book pre-revision, except for maybe the shenanigans you could pull off with the Icon Of Rakaph Tomb Guard or the Hieratic Jar/Cloak of Dunes liche priest. I know you used to play Tomb Kings as well because I remember you from those forums, so I am honestly kind of confused. Sure they weren't Daemons/Dark Elves/Vampire Counts, but it wasn't a terrible book. That's funny! 😀 (As in it's funny/neat/amusing to see how different opinions can be on the same thing.) In my opinion, the 6th edition book was the pinnacle of army book design. Nothing before or after it has been close. Cloak of the Dunes, Brooch if the Great Desert, the good version of the Destroyer of Eternities, the Hierarchy, the way carrion just worked ... Man, that army was fun, interesting, rewarding, and struck a perfect balance of power level. The hard cover you referenced was a failure in almost every possible way. The rules and background failed to connect in any meaningful way. Nothing worked well. Stalkers were better at killing themselves than the enemy. The ushabti with bows were junk. The coolest option in the book didn't even have a model. Sphinxes die to a stiff breeze. I could go on, but it really was a miserable failure by the designer. Edited April 17, 2019 by Sleboda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 51 minutes ago, Neffelo said: I would honestly be surprised if Bonesplitterz got their own tome again. 2.0 Seems to have been doing some consolidation work, and I think they could be rolled into IronJawz pretty easy. depends since it looks like during the warcry reveal that Ironjawz and Bonesplitterz where still separate forces not to mention that they kept FEC and Fyreslayer separated so it not all about consolidation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neffelo Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, novakai said: depends since it looks like during the warcry reveal that Ironjawz and Bonesplitterz where still separate forces not to mention that they kept FEC and Fyreslayer separated so it not all about consolidation I did say some consolidation work, not all. That being said, Bonesplittarz would aesthetically roll into Ironjawz much easier than Fyreslayers would in the other Duradin armies. For FEC, the LoN book had already come out, and FEC was considered a popular enough stand alone army to keep it's book. I don't think the same thing could be said for Bonesplittaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurrilino Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Lord Veshnakar said: Are we talking about the same army book? I am talking about this one pictured below. It was actually a really fun army. Sure the horsemen and tomb swarms were ****** but still, the army had some tricks the Necropolis Knights and Tomb Guard were great. The previous incarnation however was absolute trash, almost as bad as the 6th edition dark elf book pre-revision, except for maybe the shenanigans you could pull off with the Icon Of Rakaph Tomb Guard or the Hieratic Jar/Cloak of Dunes liche priest. I know you used to play Tomb Kings as well because I remember you from those forums, so I am honestly kind of confused. Sure they weren't Daemons/Dark Elves/Vampire Counts, but it wasn't a terrible book. I agree. This book was pure fun. No bad memories at all. I am sad they are gone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Neffelo said: I did say some consolidation work, not all. That being said, Bonesplittarz would aesthetically roll into Ironjawz much easier than Fyreslayers would in the other Duradin armies. For FEC, the LoN book had already come out, and FEC was considered a popular enough stand alone army to keep it's book. I don't think the same thing could be said for Bonesplittaz Yeah but what makes Ironjawz not popular to be a stand alone army? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neffelo Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, novakai said: Yeah but what makes Ironjawz not popular to be a stand alone army? Ironjawz are plenty popular to remain a stand-alone army, but the range is very limited, and there are some noted issues with selection. Bonesplitterz are not popular enough to remain a stand alone army (IMO) and there doesn't seem to be a greenskin LON style book on the way. This is why they would be getting rolled into Ironjawz and not the other way around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 31 minutes ago, Neffelo said: Ironjawz are plenty popular to remain a stand-alone army, but the range is very limited, and there are some noted issues with selection. Bonesplitterz are not popular enough to remain a stand alone army (IMO) and there doesn't seem to be a greenskin LON style book on the way. This is why they would be getting rolled into Ironjawz and not the other way around. I mean Ironjawz just need a real release, if they do get new models, then problem solve, they are not far off from the amount of unit Fyreslayer and FEC has I would say that Bonesplitterz are at least in Fyreslayer tier of popularity or above, so they might as well get their own release as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutton Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I also agree that Bonesplitterz doesn't really seem to be a popular army, and it would surprise me if they weren't rolled into another Destruction faction like Ironjawz. They have an even more limited selection than Fyreslayers. I know zero people in my community who play Bonesplitterz or even have a passing interest in them, and I'd probably rank them below even something like Wanderers in popularity. But hey, maybe there are a lot more fans in the woodwork than I'm aware of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blightzkrieg Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, novakai said: I mean Ironjawz just need a real release, if they do get new models, then problem solve, they are not far off from the amount of unit Fyreslayer and FEC has I would say that Bonesplitterz are at least in Fyreslayer tier of popularity or above, so they might as well get their own release as well But it's easier for Games Workshop to increase sales by combining them rather than investing in a full release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Blightzkrieg said: But it's easier for Games Workshop to increase sales by combining them rather than investing in a full release. They could make more sales by selling two different battletome with terrain, endless spell, and OP rules like they did with previous tomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awcamawn Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Mutton said: and I'd probably rank them below even something like Wanderers in popularity Hey! ...thanks for mentioning us. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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