The World Tree Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Icegoat said: I have heard that sylvaneth definitely getting new scenery and three new endless spells with their battletome. Source is not saying anything about kharadron overlords which makes me suspicious it might be something good. Please tell me they are getting rid of the wyldwood overabundance! Those damn woods are a playability nightmare. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walrustaco Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Icegoat said: I have heard that sylvaneth definitely getting new scenery and three new endless spells with their battletome. More trees. That kill you when you run over them? That fill up the board. And got my stonehorns stuck for a whole edition before they could fly or I knew they could climb over them. I love trees. Oh boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, The World Tree said: Please tell me they are getting rid of the wyldwood overabundance! Those damn woods are a playability nightmare. With that name... advocating for less Trees? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The World Tree Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Just now, Kramer said: With that name... advocating for less Trees? With Wyldwoods as they are there are never any actual trees on the board! Just bases. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Is there any rumour about disposessed gettinmg the 1 week release treatment? (that'd be great, then I could fight those gobbos at my doorstep with renewed vigour!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walrustaco Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, JackStreicher said: Is there any rumour about disposessed gettinmg the 1 week release treatment? (that'd be great, then I could fight those gobbos at my doorstep with renewed vigour!) At least they wouldn't get low quality endless spells.🤣 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepkin Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Endless Runes on the other hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankelton Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, JackStreicher said: Is there any rumour about disposessed gettinmg the 1 week release treatment? (that'd be great, then I could fight those gobbos at my doorstep with renewed vigour!) Currently none that I know of! Only rumors I know are the community crafted ones regarding the Duardin ruins baked into the troggoth and dankhold kits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skabnoze Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Aryann said: Each major Clan in my opinion should receive its own battletome and models. Maybe this will happen in the future. That does not seem likely to ever happen. Maybe if they decided to break Skaven off into it's own full Grand Alliance - but they appear to be solidly within the Chaos camp for AoS. A full battletome for every skaven clan would make them comprise roughly half of the entire Chaos Grand Alliance and that feels very out of place given that they have expressed many times that the Horned Rat is the currently the lesser of all the Chaos gods. They simply did not set up Skaven within AoS to take on such a large role that each clan should warrant their own distinct model range and dedicated battletome. If they had rolled Skaven into the Destruction Grand Alliance rather than Chaos then multiple Skaven books would probably have made more sense. I do wish that they had put made new kits for the Skaven with this release though. They have some plastic kits that could benefit from being reworked and a lot of finecast that they could have removed. But a good book update is nothing to scoff at and this new book sounds like it will be pretty expansive. Hopefully it delivers most of what Skaven players want in regards to rules and army structure. Honestly, having all of the clans rolled together into a larger allegiance, but with the option to play specific clan allegiances should provide for more variable builds overall. There is also a lot of modeling potential to be had with a structure like that for hobbyists that like to take on conversion projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skabnoze Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Kramer said: With that name... advocating for less Trees? Maybe he has issues with imposters? Will the real Yggdrasil please stand up?... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 GW could give Skaven an army for each Clan - the problem is that would give them a large number of armies to support. A new Clan Pestilens model only interests pestilens players not moulder or others. So you'd quickly end up with a lot of armies to support and update and it would get out of hand! AoS was on that pathway originally; however I believe GW was going to manage it by also retiring a lot of armies and keeping most of them very small. Rolling them so that they'd retire them once the moulds wore out and it was no longer economical to support them further. The whole realm system being near infinite in variety and structure fed into this. Clearly AoS and GW have chagned plans since then which is why we've seen several sermies rebuilt. Now a single new pestilens model counts for all the clans and all skaven players - that's far more customers and far less market fragmentation 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Skabnoze said: A full battletome for every skaven clan would make them comprise roughly half of the entire Chaos Grand Alliance and that feels very out of place given that they have expressed many times that the Horned Rat is the currently the lesser of all the Chaos gods All other points are very sensible but this feels as a wrong conclusion. The great horned rat is the lesser in the great four. But his chosen race is spread out across every realm, so regardless of his position compared to nurgle, tzeentch and Khorne his followers are plenty enough to develope different cultures. And if those styles influence playstyle (like the great clans already have) it could be worth it to investigate as a separate faction for GW. Still not going to happen but not influenced by the narrative power difference between those gods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skabnoze Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Kramer said: All other points are very sensible but this feels as a wrong conclusion. The great horned rat is the lesser in the great four. But his chosen race is spread out across every realm, so regardless of his position compared to nurgle, tzeentch and Khorne his followers are plenty enough to develope different cultures. And if those styles influence playstyle (like the great clans already have) it could be worth it to investigate as a separate faction for GW. Still not going to happen but not influenced by the narrative power difference between those gods. You could make the same argument for every race and the various subfactions within battletomes - such as Deepkin Enclaves, Sylvaneth houses, Daughter's of Khaine temples, Fyreslayer lodges, etc. Honestly, the described system for the Skaven battletome sounds more flexible and diverse than what those other battletomes use to add that layer of diversity. Even the major chaos gods have their followers spread across all of the realms and a large variety of mortal followers that one could argue diversify based upon the realms they are in. I really like Skaven, but they don't seem to be a unique snowflake compared to any other race in regards to why they should have distinct clan books rather than a single unified tome that still provides them diverse build options. Edited February 5, 2019 by Skabnoze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Daughters of Khaine are already a Dark Elves subfaction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skabnoze Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Overread said: Daughters of Khaine are already a Dark Elves subfaction What is this Dark Elves thing you speak of? It sounds very disgusting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsharitt Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Walrustaco said: At least they wouldn't get low quality endless spells.🤣 Yeah, not endless spells. I wonder if Dwarfs could get a release with no models at all. Maybe a scenery piece. Perhaps a reimagined anvil of doom or something. I'd image what ever they got would be some kind of forge based. If they don't get anything new, I just hope they don't forget the units they've loaded to the ironweld arsenal. With Tzaangors in Beasts of Chaos, GW doesn't seem to be against the idea of models living in two books at once. Now that the new skaven book is a rebsorbing Clan Pestilins and likely ending their own battletome, I wounder what the odds of that happening to BCR are if Ogres get a book? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitorsz Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Based on various rumors I’ve seen around I think the rest of 2019 will look something like this (in no particular order) Last 2 Underworlds warbands (Sylvaneth and Kharadron). These are rumoured to come with the 1 week release treatment. Endless Spells, Terrain, Dice and a Battletome. Makes sense, both factions need a quick update. Wider Slaanesh release including battletome and probably a codex. Could include, demons, heroes, noise marines Sisters of Battle release (maybe a big event 2 week preorder with a full range and codex) General 40k chaos update. New Abaddon, new generic chaos marines, reboxing of black fortress traitor guardsmen, perhaps 40k beastmen too. It’s possible some of these things may be released as kill team boxes to gauge interest going into 2020. Seeing as how they’re doing these quick battletome updates, I wouldn’t be surprised if Ironjaws and Seraphon got a battletome update. Perhaps with the same terrain/endless spell/dice treatment. They both need a tweak. I think those are the most likely things to happen this year. I’d like to see some updates to the very old Skaven range with this new book, but I’m happy to wait a bit for all that. LVO could easily tease any of these or something completely different (BFG perhaps?) Looking at the above, you’ve got: 2 major 40k releases 2-4 minor AOS release 1 major demons release that works for both. So perhaps there’s room for 1 more major AOS release…. Could be new skaven models, could be fyreslayer updates could be elves/free-peoples/skygrots (though I think we’d have heard more rumours about any of these by now). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelfric Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Aryann said: Did anybody else had problems with accessing this site today and yesterday? Yes, I did - kept saying site not available, but seems ok now. While not wanting others to suffer, but somehow I feel better knowing I wasn't the only one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirjava13 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 I don't want to seem paranoid, but then I am a skaven player... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiagoma Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 23 minutes ago, Kirjava13 said: I don't want to seem paranoid, but then I am a skaven player... Oh look its me! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiagoma Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 As a high elf player i already arranged my Swordmasters, SeaGuard, High Warden and Reavers funeral. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Something honestly went wrong with Island of blood and you can tell Fantasy was really suffering with sales and support when GW releases a slew of new sculpts for 2 major factions and fails to ever release them after the combined boxed set. My betting is that Island of Blood sold really badly - or at least not enough to recoup the investment and make it viable to produces more moulds for the separate sprues. IT might also have been a huge mistake that they wound up on the same sprues as that totally broke the chance for GW to release separate boxed sets for each army. I think in the transition into AoS and all the madness that followed its just something that hasn't yet got back on the table. Thankfully Skaven are still in a strong position - High Elves though are in a really precarious position right now - actually the only Aelves we've got are Daughters of Khaine. That kind of hits home at how ina mess Aelves are right now. I figure we might well see them re-unite them or at least some; but its near impossible to tell what they will do and the current store page lists them all under one umbrella (that's bold if they try to do a single Aelf Battletome considering that high and dark aelves are vastly different in designs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 The best way to guess what is coming this year is to compare with last year. Last year aos got 1 starter set with core book, 1 expansion with minis, 1 campaign book with minis, 7 battletomes, 4 major waves of minis and one smaller wave of minis, and a bunch of underworlds stuff. 40k had 10 or so codexes, but only 3 big waves of minis. They also had 3 campaign boxes, 1 campaign book with minis, 3 major boxed games and a mountain of kill team stuff Specialist games released two big boxed games and assorted smaller releases. 2018 was definitely the year of the big boxed game. 11 big boxes and a handful of smaller games like space marine adventures. It will be interesting to see if 2019 follows suit. We already have one with carrion empire. Looking at 2019 we will definitely see fewer codexes. With most of the codexes done it suggests the rules and background team would have note time to work on aos battletomes. I can't believe we will have so many boxed games this year so there will probably be more standard book plus minis releases than last year. With black legion, primaris 2, sisters and Slaanesh alk but confirmed and gsc already finished I would expect 40k to get more big releases this year. So maybe 6 40k and 4 aos. So gloomspite, slaves to Darkness Slaanesh and one more big release. We may get one or two Dok sized releases too but not much more than that. So my predictions for 2019 are : major releases: gloomspite slaves to Darkness Slaanesh one mystery book book, terrain and endless spells only: Skaven FEC Seraphon fyreslayers slyvaneth Ko Ironjawz (this might be a Dok style release or even the fourth big release) there's a good chance we will get one or two more campaign boxes like carrion empire. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman101 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 curious, how long has it been since they stopped selling the metal Warpfire Thrower? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Misfire Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 (edited) Seems like a real shame that possibly the definitive skaven warmachine, and a unit that's been around debuted with the very first skaven miniatures has gone the way of the dwarf miner because it was redone in plastic for long enough for the metal model to be discontinued, then discontinued entirely when it had the misfortune of sharing a sprue with some High Elves. In-setting you could probably say that with warpfire projectors being the sole piece of kit worth taking Stormfiends for, the Arch-Warlocks of Skrye ordered a mass recall of weapons team manned (ratted?) warpfire throwers to keep up with the demand. Edited February 6, 2019 by Double Misfire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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