The Rumour Thread

[stato]

3 minutes ago, Overread said:

 

 

Latest rumour image from GW. Looks like some kind of piston or driving shaft. Some kind of pump system, perhaps linked to terrain for Necromunda or 40K. Could also be something for AoS as its fairly standard and simplistic design on the metal - functional and could easily fit into KOverlords. 

The latest Voxcast (that alternative to Stormcast podcast but for that other inferior game system ) mentioned race specfic scenery was becoming more of a thing for 40k, so this is most likely (in my eyes) an Imperial Promethium station for the Astra Militarum.   OR, even more likely, its a Dispossessed mining cart, the replacement for Steam tanks 

 

[chord]

22 hours ago, rosa said:

That is for me and many others a big issue.

The uber lift newer tomes receive.

This also killed WHFB for me.

24 Inch + d3 attacks? Come on..

Older tomes have wholly within 9 or 12 Inch and would have received +1 attack.

 

I really dislike this way GW is going.

I don't have a problem with this being wholly within 24".  Ghouls are taken in such large quantities (else they are pretty useless) so if it was wholly within 12" you would almost never get to use it.   

 

I will say I do think powercreep happens as a way to sell stuff. 

[Charles]

If you compare the FEC ability to a Blood Secrator that model should be at least 300 points.  

 

A Blood Secrator is 140 points and this new model has an extra 6” of range, the ability to move with it and giving double the attacks (on average). To get just the extra range a Khorne player has to pay 200 points for Gorepilgrims and 100 for a priest to stay near him.

[Turragor]

39 minutes ago, stato said:

The latest Voxcast (that alternative to Stormcast podcast but for that other inferior game system ) mentioned race specfic scenery was becoming more of a thing for 40k, so this is most likely (in my eyes) an Imperial Promethium station for the Astra Militarum.   OR, even more likely, its a Dispossessed mining cart, the replacement for Steam tanks 

 

Most of their rumours include wordplay and this one mentioned fire wizards

[The_Chin]

5 minutes ago, Charles said:

If you compare the FEC ability to a Blood Secrator that model should be at least 300 points.  

 

A Blood Secrator is 140 points and this new model has an extra 6” of range, the ability to move with it and giving double the attacks (on average). To get just the extra range a Khorne player has to pay 200 points for Gorepilgrims and 100 for a priest to stay near him.

its worth considering that the bloodsecrator is a guaranteed +1 attack with no way of stopping it.

By comparison, the FEC ability has to be cast, and not dispelled, to actually work. I'd say you'll see him at the 180 point mark, but that's just a guess.  It's an awesome spell don' t get me wrong but it requires a few things go your way. 

[Lucky Snake Eyes]

So a thought occurred to me regarding the upcoming soulwars release...

The entirety of the aelf races are quite literally built around souls stolen from the mortal coil by first slaanesh and then the new aelf gods. So what if instead of stormcasts and death again we got a soul wars box that was death vs slaanesh or death vs aelves? Or slaanesh vs aleves? I haven't gotten around to reading the soul wars books yet but it was started by nagash being pissed over sigmar taking human souls from the mortal coil to make the stormcasts right? Then wouldn't slaanesh and the aelves doing the same also instigate another theater of war in the soul wars?

Edited February 5, 2019 by Lucky Snake Eyes

[RuneBrush]

1 hour ago, Kyriakin said:

Why don't FW keyword the remaining warscrolls they already have first?

The team has already been broken up so no more rules changes from FW for AoS.

3 minutes ago, The_Chin said:

its worth considering that the bloodsecrator is a guaranteed +1 attack with no way of stopping it.

Killing the model will stop it 😂

[Forrix]

Isn't the new FEC character just giving out extra attacks to ghouls? At 4/4/-/1 those attacks aren't that great, you'd need a boatload of them to do real damage. On the other hand the Bloodsecrator can give his extra attack to a Bloodthirster. Not saying Khorne couldn't use some help (I think Khorne's internal balance is out of wack) but you need to be careful with direct comparisons.

[The_Chin]

Just now, RuneBrush said:

Killing the model will stop it 😂

Not playing against Khorne also works 😜

[The_Chin]

Just now, Forrix said:

Isn't the new FEC character just giving out extra attacks to ghouls? At 4/4/-/1 those attacks aren't that great, you'd need a boatload of them to do real damage. On the other hand the Bloodsecrator can give his extra attack to a Bloodthirster. Not saying Khorne couldn't use some help (I think Khorne's internal balance is out of wack) but you need to be careful with direct comparisons.

The spell is d3 extra attacks to any FEC unit. So dragons, horrors, flayers, ghouls - everything. 

[Forrix]

1 hour ago, The_Chin said:

The spell is d3 extra attacks to any FEC unit. So dragons, horrors, flayers, ghouls - everything. 

Oof, okay then yeah that's gonna be pretty brutal on a ghoul king on terrorgheist/zombie dragon.

[bsharitt]

2 hours ago, Overread said:

See I don't really want FW doing full armies. The way I see it they should be making hero sculpts; alternate epic models and unique monsters and such for AoS. Full armies are nice, but they are very niche on FW and always come with a high price tag that makes them even more niche. Far better for them to provide alternate parts and unique sculpts.

I guess with GW central being better at doing big models in plastic it has stolen some of FW's thunder, but they can still provide loads of epic monsters and wandering monsters for AoS. The setting is ripe for such additions and beasties. 

 

Also more dragons!

GW being able to do big detailed models in plastic does put ForgeWorld in a weird spot. Aside from super giant stuff like titans, it doesn't make a ton of sense for FW to be doing Great Unclean One sized centerpiece models for mainline games(i.e. 40k and AoS) when GW proper can do them in plastic cheaper and get better distribution and thus more sales.

I think for the most part it makes sense it makes sense for them to do very few models at a smaller sizes for 40k or AoS just because they can sell more if they're in plastic. The best place for FW is probably is specialist games like HH or special characters for smaller games like Necromunda, MESBG, and Bloodbowl where they won't sell as many. Outside of titan level stuff and really small niche things like alternate heads or weapons, I think modern manifacturing and model design has left FW behind for very large(as in player base and sales) games like 40k and AoS.

[firebat]

The Bloodsecrator is also all Khorne units within range while this is a spell you can cast once on a single unit a turn.

[stato]

21 minutes ago, bsharitt said:

GW being able to do big detailed models in plastic does put ForgeWorld in a weird spot. Aside from super giant stuff like titans, it doesn't make a ton of sense for FW to be doing Great Unclean One sized centerpiece models for mainline games(i.e. 40k and AoS) when GW proper can do them in plastic cheaper and get better distribution and thus more sales.

I think for the most part it makes sense it makes sense for them to do very few models at a smaller sizes for 40k or AoS just because they can sell more if they're in plastic. The best place for FW is probably is specialist games like HH or special characters for smaller games like Necromunda, MESBG, and Bloodbowl where they won't sell as many. Outside of titan level stuff and really small niche things like alternate heads or weapons, I think modern manifacturing and model design has left FW behind for very large(as in player base and sales) games like 40k and AoS.

Hoping FW pick up on some sort of Hero line, like HH but for AoS (and 40k).  The heros from the books that have not (and will not) get plastic models.  Would fit their capability, freelance approach to small models and customer interest.

[HorticulusTGA]

Thanks @RuneBrush for the Forge World news !

Now that main GW have a huge capacity production and do big plastic kits and swirly heroes, I think what FW could do best is :

1. Niche / Specialized Monsters and Heroes* ; EDIT : as @stato said above, a "Warhammer Age Of Sigmar Characters Series" based on Black Library heroes would be great.

2. Conversion packs (like WHF had for the Empire, the Stromcast one or HH) ; 

3. Fluff books exploring in depth some area of the Mortal Realms, with that dark and more "realistic" tones FW always had (see Tamurkhan or Imperial Armour, Siege of Vraks 1-3). 

*The problem being the esthetic consistency with the main GW lines, e.g. the Custodes Citadel and FW lines work very well together esthetically, even if in terms of units functions / rules some choices are redundant - the FW Moonclan line is more complementary with the Gloomspite Gitz in terms of rules, but  it"fits" less in terms of look IMO - excluding the awesome Squig Gobba of course!).

Also FW, please do not try the "swirly" effect Citadel is doing plastic  ; 30k Magnus' magical powers look less... well, good (again, IMO) than, say, the Avatar of Ynnead. 

Edited February 5, 2019 by HorticulusTGA

[Charleston]

How about a little bit of wishlisting on LVO announcements?
I would love to hear what you guys expect to be announced or what you at least would wish to hear of

[PJetski]

4 minutes ago, Charleston said:

How about a little bit of wishlisting on LVO announcements?
I would love to hear what you guys expect to be announced or what you at least would wish to hear of

Order Battletome: Seraphon

I expect to see Chaos marines and darkoath

Edited February 5, 2019 by PJetski

[Turgol]

3 minutes ago, Charleston said:

How about a little bit of wishlisting on LVO announcements?
I would love to hear what you guys expect to be announced or what you at least would wish to hear of

Good idea.

I expect a teaser of Darkoath, announcement of next update BT (KO, Syl, FS or IJ) and models of next Shadespire bands.

Now if I were to make a wild, non conservayive wish, that would be Malerion tease.

[Chikout]

I expect to see a lot of black legion stuff for 40k including abaddon and the new campaign book. For AOS we will probably get either slaves to Darkness or Slaanesh and the next warhammer underworlds warband.

My dream announcement would be a new ko battletome with a new battleline option, a new ship and a new hero. 

[NurglesFirstChosen]

15 minutes ago, Charleston said:

How about a little bit of wishlisting on LVO announcements?
I would love to hear what you guys expect to be announced or what you at least would wish to hear of

A few snippets that tease towards an large slaanesh release in the next month n half. 

[Kronos]

If whatever they release next is half as good as the gloomspite stuff then I’ll be very happy (dificult as gloomspite had the special neiche of being an old favourite/my 12 year old self wishlisting come true/new toys. ) I imagine darkoath is still some time away as the goblins were only like a month ago. I don’t think I’ll be able to resist a black legion release if abaddon is done, and done well.

[JPjr]

Possibly news of whatever this year' Malign Sorcery type thing will be.

Something to do with the final Nightvault warbands.

And I'd love news of a AoS campaign book, something's brewing in Chamon and I think we might get something along those lines.

Then probably lots of Black Legion shenanigans for 40K and maybe some Sisters reveals.

[AshCrow]

6 hours ago, RuneBrush said:

Morning folks!

Thought this was the best place to post this up.  I've been away at the HH Weekender this weekend and although not an AoS event, am able to provide a bit of feedback on a few FW things.

First off, the way Forge World provides items for AoS and 40k has been changed.  There is no longer a dedicated team of people creating content for the two game systems.  Instead the rules elements now is being handled by the appropriate design studio.  This is a fairly recent change from the seem of it (within the last month or so).  What does this mean for us?  Nobody yet knows, we never saw what the old team were capable of as it only existed for a few months.  However, the change should help to ensure that future warscrolls have more consistency, but could equally change what we see being produced and may mean some of the interesting items (like multi faction keywords) may never come to fruition.

Secondly, we've seen our first "Ruinstorm Daemon" as an exclusive base for Sanguinius and it looks amazing.  To surmise, Ruinstorm Daemons are basically "generic daemons", they don't fit into the chaos alignment as we understand it.  Why am I telling you this?  Because the new daemons are going to be rife to be integrated into our existing Chaos (or similar ) armies as champions and heroes!

Lastly Warhammer Fest is happening at the Richo again on the 11th & 12th of May.  Speaking to the gent organising it (and the Weekender), its having "revolutionary" changes - what they are is anybodies guess, however with 8 Games Days under his belt and seeing how well the majority of the Weekender went I'm really looking forward to it.  I just need to work out what GD entries to do

As a StD player, I'd love the idea of getting our own kind of daemons we can summon and the desing of the one in Sanguinius' base is fantatic. I really hope GW makes at least a couple of units for them.

[Minis by Night]

For AoS, I expect the next dual box, with the next two battletomes. I will guesstimate Ironjaws vs Flying Dwarves.
The models for the last two Underworld warbands.
Teaser for Darkoath is possible but I expect it will happen a little later, like mid-spring for a release in July.
Maybe, just maybe, general Endless Spells box 2.
And I have a sliver of hope that we might get new models/resculpts for Skaven and FEC for a second week of release. Since we don't have the Battletomes yet, it's still possible!

For 40k,  Black Legion, Chaos Space Marines, and totally the new expansion for Blackstone Fortress.

[AshCrow]

7 minutes ago, JPjr said:

And I'd love news of a AoS campaign book, something's brewing in Chamon and I think we might get something along those lines.

I'd be a lot more excited about these things if GW stopped cutting pages from their translated books. I want to read the story of the campaign books and cutting a 100 pages doesn't make it easy.