Gdead909 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Ya unless i am running all elites, the first thing I put in now is that amazing chalice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gdead909 said: unless i am running all elites, the first thing I put in now is that amazing chalice! It heals models ww 12“ so if that’s your horror with 1-2 hp and your gkotg, you can heal both...and at the end of the turn!!! so after your combat phase or even if your opponent gets double turn, you can still regen in between... pretty great of course not that useful if you’re fighting elite AGAINST elite, because it’s slain models, sure Edited February 23, 2019 by Honk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogypies Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 A Gristlegore List i'm debating using at a tournament in a week, got some allied wolves for the a little more menagerie fluff. General obviously has forced command trait, but it doesn't appear on the warscroll builder. Allegiance: Flesh Eater Courts- Grand Court: GristlegoreLeadersAbhorrant Ghoul King on Royal Terrorgheist (400)- General- Artefact: Ghurish Mawshard - Lore of Madness: Monstrous VigourAbhorrant Archregent (200)- Artefact: The Dermal Robe - Lore of Madness: Spectral HostAbhorrant Ghoul King (140)- Lore of Madness: Deranged TransformationBattlelineRoyal Terrorgheist (300)Royal Terrorgheist (300)Royal Zombie Dragon (300)Units5 x Dire Wolves (60)- Allies5 x Dire Wolves (60)- AlliesBattalionsRoyal Menagerie (120)Endless SpellsChalice of Ushoran (40)Cadaverous Barricade (30)Total: 1950 / 2000Extra Command Points: 2Allies: 120 / 400Wounds: 89 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 5 hours ago, Moogypies said: Gristlegore Tell us how that went... theorycrafting is all well and nice, but live performances is where it’s happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopHatCat Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 So I thought I'd take this thread in a slightly different direction and ask for some (much needed) advice... Models I OWN are.... 3x GK on Terrorgheist (1 is unbuilt so could be a ZD I guess, they seem a nightmare to transport though haha!) 1x Abhorrant Archregent 2x Units of 3 Horrors (built) 2x Units of 3 Horrors/or Flayers (unbuilt) 50x Ghouls Charnel Throne Using just these models (that includes for summoning, don't have any extra). What kind of list would you build at 1k and 2k? I'm a huge fan of big monsters (If the 3 Terrorgheists didn't already make that obvious haha) and low model count armies (elites like horrors with just a few chaff Ghouls to hold objectives). But with this new army book I've no idea what direction to go in! Like... Summoning Horrors via heavy Summon Royal Guard abuse, or run Horrors as Battleline and back up with a few Ghouls/possibly summon more...? I dunno!BUT YEAH! These are all the models I own, you miiiiiiight be able to convince me to get another model/or box of something if the list seems really cool... otherwise just want to stick with what I own. I'm super new to AoS so no idea or experience to go off of! So if anyone could help that would be AMAZING 🤩 Thank you! ❤️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Well, first of all congratulations on your wise choice to serve the king... sadly you are lacking the regen heroes, infernal/Horror/varghulf/ghast...those ****** up one of your unused sprues (infernal&horror, the third might be proxybuilt to a varghulf if you dare) just do it with gristlegore: gkotg, Arch, Tg, 10 ghouls... or try out some shiny knights archregent, varghulf, 6 horrors and 20/10 ghouls Or combine for a juicy 2k filth list gkotg, Arch, Haunter, 3Tg (or 2+1zd), 6 horrors=1940+1CP gristlegore gkotg, Arch, haunter, 2Tg, 6horrors, 3x10 ghouls, feast day delusion... see what tickles your palate most 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thostos Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 GW really caught me by suprise with this FEC release..I used to run Ghoul patrol using fan comps right after the first book came out.It was actually the first army I used in our first "official points" tournament we had in our area.Kinda funny to see the guy that won LVO running a very similar list to what I did,,though he knows what hes doing with it,and I pretty much got wrecked all the time,lol.Anyhow..at least its all painted except the new models from the spells and CE release. Heres what I came up with using my existing army,adding the Archregent and a couple of the new spells-- Morgaunt Grand Court Realm-Shyish Leaders: Abhorrant Archregent--General ( he seems the best fit for the mandatory command trait) Crypt Ghast Courtier Abhorrant GK on TG Abhorrant GK on ZD Battleline: 40 Crypt Ghouls 10 Crypt Ghouls 10 Crypt Ghouls Battalion--Ghoul Patrol Endless Spells- Chalice of Ushoran -Corpsemare Stampede Extra CP Total 1990 Wounds 101 With the extra CPs and the Throne I should have no problems with keeping my CP count up and getting all three summons out.Regrow possibilities on the Crypt ghouls is nice too. Dont care too much about being top table,just like to give a good game and get a few wins here and there:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopHatCat Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 19 hours ago, Honk said: sadly you are lacking the regen heroes, infernal/Horror/varghulf/ghast...those ****** up one of your unused sprues (infernal&horror, the third might be proxybuilt to a varghulf if you dare) Are the Regen heroes required now in the new army book? I mean, I guess I could build 1 or 2 get an extra box but dunno! ¯\(º_O)/¯ I started collecting FEC back when I saw the Monster Mash list that Ben Souza and Alan won large GTs with (sadly seems every list has been taken down now, but was 3 GKoT, Arkhan the Black, and 30 Ghouls (to sit on objectives), would fly in, summon 4 units of Horrors into the enemies deployment, buff GKoT's up with your magic spells then have everything charge in, into a big Monster Mash! haha). But due to the change to Magestic Horror it doesn't quite work now... I did post an attempt to recreate that list on page 1 (basically replacing Arkhan with an Archregent and using MH/Charnel Throne to get some free Summons, letting us get the 4 units of Horrors turn1 still), but no idea if it'd be viable at all. So I don't know if I should stick with Summoning Horrors still or just go with something like you suggested... I just look at basic Terrorgheists and I'm like... hmmm, Yeah but for an extra 100pts I can Summon 160pts worth of stuff! 😂 haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, TopHatCat said: Yeah but for an extra 100pts I can Summon 160pts worth of stuff! Dat‘s true, but then no battleline no more 🥳 In the other threat the new Ben_S filth list has emerged, 2 archregents, 3 Tgs, gkotg, endless spells... so that’s how the monster mash looks like v2.0 1 hour ago, TopHatCat said: Are the Regen heroes required now in the new army book? If you run horrors, flayers or ghouls, the regeneration heroes are essential. At least if you want them to last. A 10xghoul unit better stays out of trouble, but a 9xhorror block with regen hero and king will dish out generous helpings of pain... and with the hero they will stay to serve another round of dessert Edited February 24, 2019 by Honk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutter Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 8 hours ago, Honk said: In the other threat the new Ben_S filth list has emerged Is that your way of combining Bill Souza and Ben Johnson into one FEC super-person? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XReN Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 So I went on a tournament yesterday and took 3rd place with this list Spoiler Allegiance: Flesh Eater Courts- Grand Court: GristlegoreMortal Realm: HyshLeadersAbhorrant Ghoul King on Royal Terrorgheist (400)- General- Trait: Savage Strike- Lore of Madness: Monstrous Vigour- Mount Trait: Gruesome BiteAbhorrant Ghoul King on Royal Zombie Dragon (440)- Artefact: Aetherquartz Brooch - Lore of Madness: Blood Feast- Mount Trait: Razor-clawedCrypt Ghast Courtier (60)- Artefact: Ghurish Mawshard Battleline40 x Crypt Ghouls (360)40 x Crypt Ghouls (360)10 x Crypt Ghouls (100)BattalionsGhoul Patrol (180)Total: 1900 / 2000Extra Command Points: 3Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 124 First I played against seraphon with Kroak and 2 Engines, he summoned an absurd amount of models just to be crushed against my general who killed around 1000 points in both summoned and starting units, mission was Places of Arcane power and I won with only 40 ghouls and ZD left standing, killed 920 points from opponent's army Second was a down to the wire game against LoN with Nagash, skeletons and graveguard, he handed my general turn two and it turned into uphill battle where I had chances to win until his his turn 4, mission was Shifting objectives where I took the first turn and thrown my outflanking ghouls right on side objectives Third game lasted around 30 minutes, mission was Focal Points and my Ironjaw opponent conceded after GKoTG butchered his Mawcrusha on the first turn. What I learned is that the list desperatly need arch-regent and then I will be testing dermal robe instead of brooch and even though Patrol was nerfed to the ground it is still one of the best battalions for us 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, Mutter said: Is that your way of combining Bill Souza and Ben Johnson into one FEC super-person? *shame...*shame...*shame... Yes, and that person runs a pretty sick list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutter Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, XReN said: and even though Patrol was nerfed to the ground it is still one of the best battalions for us I would agree (Ghoul Patrol or Royal Family), but the real question is: do we still despeartely need a battalion, or rather are we willing to pay so much for that? Still not sure about that ... Congrats on the result, though. Edited February 25, 2019 by Mutter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XReN Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Mutter said: I would agree (Ghoul Patrol or Royal Family), but the real question is: do we still despeartely need a battalion, or rather are we willing to pay so much for that? I think for most people the answer lies in their local meta, going with 3 drops list was really good for me, also if we look at my list than it relies on the battalion to get CPs from artefact and surprisingly I've been using outflank in every game. I think going vanilla with big units supported by courtiers and abhorrants can be the right way to play without battalions. Edited February 25, 2019 by XReN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XReN Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 So after some thinking I slightly changed mine gristlegore list and I hope I'll get at least 2 testing games this weekendAllegiance: Flesh Eater Courts- Grand Court: GristlegoreLeadersAbhorrant Ghoul King on Royal Terrorgheist (400)- General- Trait: Savage Strike - Lore of Madness: Blood Feast- Mount Trait: Gruesome BiteAbhorrant Ghoul King on Royal Terrorgheist (400)- Lore of Madness: Miasmal Shroud- Mount Trait: Gruesome BiteAbhorrant Archregent (200)- Artefact: The Dermal Robe - Lore of Madness: Monstrous VigourCrypt Ghast Courtier (60)- Artefact: Ghurish Mawshard Battleline40 x Crypt Ghouls (360)10 x Crypt Ghouls (100)10 x Crypt Ghouls (100)BattalionsGhoul Patrol (180)Endless SpellsCadaverous Barricade (30)Soulsnare Shackles (20)Total: 1850 / 2000Extra Command Points: 4Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWilddog Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 3 hours ago, XReN said: I think for most people the answer lies in their local meta, going with 3 drops list was really good for me, also if we look at my list than it relies on the battalion to get CPs from artefact and surprisingly I've been using outflank in every game. I think going vanilla with big units supported by courtiers and abhorrants can be the right way to play without battalions. I honestly think this will be a big concern for us at the highest competitive level. I played a game yesterday against a heavy shooting SCE list and had one of my regents snipped turn one and almost lost the other, could have if the dice had rolled super well for the SCE player. The same concerns apply to big alpha strike lists. Its hard to screen with only big fatties and a good alpha strike can wipe out a couple regents. Getting a low drop and making sure you get your regents' summons off could be a huge concern if the meta takes a big turn toward shooting (I am looking at you Skaven). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadkitten Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Mutter said: I would agree (Ghoul Patrol or Royal Family), but the real question is: do we still despeartely need a battalion, or rather are we willing to pay so much for that? Still not sure about that ... Congrats on the result, though. I don't think so but the battalion tax seems to be coming down in general and the FEC artifacts seem pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadkitten Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, TheWilddog said: I honestly think this will be a big concern for us at the highest competitive level. I played a game yesterday against a heavy shooting SCE list and had one of my regents snipped turn one and almost lost the other, could have if the dice had rolled super well for the SCE player. The same concerns apply to big alpha strike lists. Its hard to screen with only big fatties and a good alpha strike can wipe out a couple regents. Getting a low drop and making sure you get your regents' summons off could be a huge concern if the meta takes a big turn toward shooting (I am looking at you Skaven). Is there a 1-Drop FEC build? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XReN Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Deadkitten said: Is there a 1-Drop FEC build? Well... there are some, but they are not great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWilddog Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 29 minutes ago, Deadkitten said: Is there a 1-Drop FEC build? We can realistically get down to 3-4, depending on how many heroes you want with a couple, either Ghoul Patrol and Deathwatch. This will get you down low enough to get under most lists and would be enough in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadkitten Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 The Alpha Strike lists go lower than 3-4 drops though. How much do you really care about anything not at that level? Say 5-8 Drops? In a Monster Mash sort of list I think the Battalions compete for more ghouls. You need some number and anywhere from 1300-1500 pts are tied up in the monsters themselves. It's an interesting tension. The Battalion gets you lower drops but at the cost of less Ghouls but the Ghouls provide the screen to survive that Alpha. After seeing the Chalice perform this weekend, I think it's a no brainer over a Battalion. The real benefit I see to the Battalion is the Artifact & Trait. And from what I'm seeing the list is extremely CP hungry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marthen Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Any comments on this list? I consider it my ‘base’ list, and am unsure of what would be best to use up the last few hundred points? 3 more horrors or maybe 10 ghouls and some endless spells? Hollowmourne%20Abbatoir.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake3991 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Anyone have strong feelings on this list from Sheffield slaughter? Just looking to see what some others think. It went 5-0, but it's pretty easy to imagine that most of his opponents were unsure on how to handle FEC at this early stage. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutter Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 26 minutes ago, jake3991 said: It went 5-0, but it's pretty easy to imagine that most of his opponents were unsure on how to handle FEC at this early stage. Plus, it was played by Ben Johnson, who's been around like forever and a real veteran. I think it's strong list, but I'm not sure it's the strongest list FEC can deliver. Time will tell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopHatCat Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Huuuuuuuuuuuge respect to him making such a sexy looking Army list and providing lore/backstory, oozing with Royalty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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