greg19190 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 hour ago, W1tchhunter said: Probably could but tbf my group is mega chill, I'll just say they are long blades 😛 Yer that's how they have a 4 inch reach when there is 30 or more of them... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 12 hours ago, greg19190 said: Yer that's how they have a 4 inch reach when there is 30 or more of them... yes exactly. it’s just a longer handweapon nothing special. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocKeule Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 On 6/13/2022 at 6:06 PM, Cosmicsheep said: Strength in Numbers was the battleshock buff (+1 to bravery) are you thinking of Overwhelming Mass (+1 hit / wound) ? Hopefully this stays the same I am afraid it won't. The first article on the new book said (at the bottom) there would be three factionwide battle traits. So that would be those three from the second article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmicsheep Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, DocKeule said: I am afraid it won't. The first article on the new book said (at the bottom) there would be three factionwide battle traits. So that would be those three from the second article. I hadn't spotted that, and I think you're right. No more +1 hit and wound, and I was about to write off clanrats as useless until I did the math Under their current rules 40 clanrats hit and wound on a 3, but let's say only 20 are in range (2 ranks of 10), that's around 9 save rolls. Under the new rules all 40 of those clanrats can attack with 4/4 which is actually 10 save rolls. When you add AllOut Attack that goes up to 13, and with a Warbringer that's 18. Take a clawlord and your 40 clanrats are dishing out 36 damage (albeit at 0 rend) Looks like we're back to being a horde army 😁😁 Edit: one small fly in the ointment is that we now require more CP than before, and can only choose 1 unit to focus our CP on. Edited June 15, 2022 by Cosmicsheep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocKeule Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Depends on how you had your clanrats built. All of mine have speers so I got most into melee already even in larger blocks. Also you can only use allout attack once per phase. Do you really spend that on clanrats? Plus the old rule could benefit more than one unit. Frankly I don't see this as a significant boost on larger units. I think I would use clanrats as min-units to have more waves and be able to screen more rounds (especially now that we seem to lose a number of ways to deal with battleshock). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 18 minutes ago, DocKeule said: Depends on how you had your clanrats built. All of mine have speers so I got most into melee already even in larger blocks. Also you can only use allout attack once per phase. Do you really spend that on clanrats? Plus the old rule could benefit more than one unit. Frankly I don't see this as a significant boost on larger units. I think I would use clanrats as min-units to have more waves and be able to screen more rounds (especially now that we seem to lose a number of ways to deal with battleshock). I would probably go for 2x60 clanrats a priest with curse and the rest of the army consisting of min. Size giant rats and clanrats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmicsheep Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 59 minutes ago, Skreech Verminking said: I would probably go for 2x60 clanrats a priest with curse and the rest of the army consisting of min. Size giant rats and clanrats This is where I was going too. Add in a bell with Emerald Lifeswarm and watch those rats chomp through anything 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocKeule Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Then I would rather use 30 monks. As of now you get even more attacks, exploding sixes, chance on doing mortal wounds when dying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmicsheep Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 I hope they let us bring more than 20 monks. I'd start bringing them again (even though mine are all equipped with staffs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocKeule Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Mine as well. I started my Skaven army with a pure Pestilens list in 2017 when staffs still gave extra attacks being able to attack from the third row. We will see. I am expecting weapon profiles to get streamlined. And the way GW operates lately I would expect some little used models to be crucial in the new book so we all buy new stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmicsheep Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 I'll be honest, the more of the new tome rules I see, the more I think GW hates the Skaven. Yes, clanrats look a little better. But the Stormvermin have had a small nerf by losing the Overwhelming Mass, and going up in points. Plague Monks may now be playable in units of 20 though, even if they are still a glass cannon I'm off to my FLGS later to pre-order the book, warscroll cards and GHB anyway, just crossing my fingers there's some love for the rat folk in the book 🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 33 minutes ago, Cosmicsheep said: I'll be honest, the more of the new tome rules I see, the more I think GW hates the Skaven. Yes, clanrats look a little better. But the Stormvermin have had a small nerf by losing the Overwhelming Mass, and going up in points. Plague Monks may now be playable in units of 20 though, even if they are still a glass cannon I'm off to my FLGS later to pre-order the book, warscroll cards and GHB anyway, just crossing my fingers there's some love for the rat folk in the book 🤞 Yeah I’ve got to ask mu local store, if it is possible to give a pre-order an day before it would actually happen (got studies this Saturday to attend to😭) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmicsheep Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 The realm rules for Gallet also include two new core battalions. Expert Conquerors are more accomplished at holding objectives than most, while Bounty Hunters specialise in gutting opposing armies – they deal extra Damage in melee when targeting the enemy’s GALLETIAN VETERANS Not loving the idea of enemies having units that output extra damage against our battlelines. Battlelines that we’re almost certain going to have to take in larger units to get any bonuses. Reaaaallly hoping that it’s not a flat +1 damage, and more of a “6 to wound causes an extra damage, or a mortal” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 9 hours ago, Cosmicsheep said: The realm rules for Gallet also include two new core battalions. Expert Conquerors are more accomplished at holding objectives than most, while Bounty Hunters specialise in gutting opposing armies – they deal extra Damage in melee when targeting the enemy’s GALLETIAN VETERANS Not loving the idea of enemies having units that output extra damage against our battlelines. Battlelines that we’re almost certain going to have to take in larger units to get any bonuses. Reaaaallly hoping that it’s not a flat +1 damage, and more of a “6 to wound causes an extra damage, or a mortal” Well I mean it does sound interesting. Depending how the doom flayer will work in the new book, I could see this being a pretty interesting buff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmicsheep Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 6 hours ago, Skreech Verminking said: Depending how the doom flayer will work in the new book, I could see this being a pretty interesting buff. Could be a nice option for a trio of rattling guns too 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riff_Raff_Rascal Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 If they go hog wild on Doom-Flayer rules LETTSS GOOO! I didn't kitbash 6 of them for nothin'! Units of weapon teams will be a new era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Cosmicsheep said: Could be a nice option for a trio of rattling guns too 😁 Well, I’m not certain how it will work. if it is restricted towards combat only, I guess doom flayer might be the better option 30 minutes ago, Riff_Raff_Rascal said: If they go hog wild on Doom-Flayer rules LETTSS GOOO! I didn't kitbash 6 of them for nothin'! Units of weapon teams will be a new era. Let’s goo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmicsheep Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Skreech Verminking said: if it is restricted towards combat only, I guess doom flayer might be the better option Yep, didn’t read that properly did I? 🙄🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Fellow skaven player I got some news 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocKeule Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 So that means mutations for Rat Ogres are gone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Can’t say. the rules for hidding weapon teams aren’t. they were removed and put onto the warscroll of the weapon teams. so maybe rat ogors will have their own table of mutations on their warscroll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocKeule Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Have there been any new warscrolls leaked already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, DocKeule said: Have there been any new warscrolls leaked already? Some have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogypies Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 A good chunk of them have now Im super excited from the current ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Moogypies said: A good chunk of them have now Im super excited from the current ones. I wish I could leak them over here, yet I’m not certain if I’m allowed to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.