AoS 2 - Skaventide Discussion

[Riff_Raff_Rascal]

On 12/23/2021 at 3:50 AM, Skreech Verminking said:

I’m not sure if max. Unit sizes of 15 will be helpful for our gutter runners.

oh yup, thats my bad. i was in fantasy land when i posted that. stilll remembering the good ol days

[Megahurtz]

Fellow children of the Horned Rat! After about 20 years of absence from the hobby, I found my way back to my beloved Skaven. Drinking your wisdom from hundreds of pages of discussions, I am search-ask you for your advise how to develop my army. 

Currently I have a lot of clan rats (and slaves), but basically lacking all war machines and monsters. The idea of the army below is to be able to deal with every threat, more or less... In case of shooting death star, I warp grind one unit of clan rats incl. the WFT close to the enemy and burn-kill everything. For alpha strike, I try board control where the giant rats are working as speed bumps. Counterattack will be done by curse/ratlings and gnash-gnaw/death frenzied clanrats. I hope that mortals spam with curse will help to kill something...

[b]++ **Pitched Battle GHB 2021** 2,000 (Chaos - Skaven) [1,995pts] ++[/b]

[b]+ Core Battalion +[/b]

[b]Core Battalion: Hunters of the Heartlands[/b]

[b]Core Battalion: Hunters of the Heartlands[/b]

[b]Core Battalion: Warlord:[/b] Extra Enhancement: Artefacts of Power

[b]+ Leader +[/b]

[b]Clawlord [105pts]:[/b] 6. Devious Adversary, Warlord - 2-4 Sub-Commanders

[b]Grey Seer [140pts]:[/b] 5. Death Frenzy, 5. Snoutgrovel Robes

[b]Plague Priest [85pts]:[/b] 6. Liber Bubonicus, Curse, Warlord - 1-2 Commanders

[b]Plague Priest [85pts]:[/b] General - Clans Pestilens, Warlord - 2-4 Sub-Commanders

[b]Warlock Engineer [125pts]:[/b] 1. More-more-more Warp Power!, 3. Esoteric Warp Resonator, Warlord - 2-4 Sub-Commanders

[b]+ Battleline +[/b]

[b]Clanrats [260pts]:[/b] 40 Clanrats, Bell Ringer, Clanshields, Reinforced, Rusty Blades, Standard Bearers, Warlord - 1-2 Troops

[b]Clanrats [260pts]:[/b] 40 Clanrats, Bell Ringer, Clanshields, Reinforced, Rusty Blades, Standard Bearers, Warlord - 1-2 Troops

[b]Clanrats [260pts]:[/b] 40 Clanrats, Bell Ringer, Clanshields, Reinforced, Rusty Blades, Standard Bearers

[b]+ Other +[/b]

[b]Giant Rats [40pts]:[/b] 6 Giant Rats, Hunters of the Heartlands - 2-3 Troops

[b]Giant Rats [40pts]:[/b] 6 Giant Rats, Hunters of the Heartlands - 2-3 Troops

[b]Giant Rats [40pts]:[/b] 6 Giant Rats, Hunters of the Heartlands - 2-3 Troops

[b]Giant Rats [40pts]:[/b] 6 Giant Rats, Hunters of the Heartlands - 2-3 Troops

[b]Giant Rats [40pts]:[/b] 6 Giant Rats, Hunters of the Heartlands - 2-3 Troops

[b]Gnawhole[/b]

[b]Ratling Gun [65pts][/b]

[b]Ratling Gun [65pts][/b]

[b]Ratling Gun [65pts][/b]

[b]Ratling Gun [65pts][/b]

[b]Warp-grinder [75pts][/b]

[b]Warpfire Thrower [70pts][/b]

[b]Warpfire Thrower [70pts][/b]

[b]+ Allegiance +[/b]

[b]Allegiance:[/b] Allegiance: Skaventide

[b]+ Game Options +[/b]

[b]Game Type:[/b] 2000 Points - Battlehost

[b]Grand Strategy:[/b] Hold the Line

[b]++ Total: [1,995pts] ++[/b]

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[Skreech Verminking]

14 hours ago, Megahurtz said:

Fellow children of the Horned Rat! After about 20 years of absence from the hobby, I found my way back to my beloved Skaven. Drinking your wisdom from hundreds of pages of discussions, I am search-ask you for your advise how to develop my army. 

Currently I have a lot of clan rats (and slaves), but basically lacking all war machines and monsters. The idea of the army below is to be able to deal with every threat, more or less... In case of shooting death star, I warp grind one unit of clan rats incl. the WFT close to the enemy and burn-kill everything. For alpha strike, I try board control where the giant rats are working as speed bumps. Counterattack will be done by curse/ratlings and gnash-gnaw/death frenzied clanrats. I hope that mortals spam with curse will help to kill something...

[b]++ **Pitched Battle GHB 2021** 2,000 (Chaos - Skaven) [1,995pts] ++[/b]

[b]+ Core Battalion +[/b]

[b]Core Battalion: Hunters of the Heartlands[/b]

[b]Core Battalion: Hunters of the Heartlands[/b]

[b]Core Battalion: Warlord:[/b] Extra Enhancement: Artefacts of Power

[b]+ Leader +[/b]

[b]Clawlord [105pts]:[/b] 6. Devious Adversary, Warlord - 2-4 Sub-Commanders

[b]Grey Seer [140pts]:[/b] 5. Death Frenzy, 5. Snoutgrovel Robes

[b]Plague Priest [85pts]:[/b] 6. Liber Bubonicus, Curse, Warlord - 1-2 Commanders

[b]Plague Priest [85pts]:[/b] General - Clans Pestilens, Warlord - 2-4 Sub-Commanders

[b]Warlock Engineer [125pts]:[/b] 1. More-more-more Warp Power!, 3. Esoteric Warp Resonator, Warlord - 2-4 Sub-Commanders

[b]+ Battleline +[/b]

[b]Clanrats [260pts]:[/b] 40 Clanrats, Bell Ringer, Clanshields, Reinforced, Rusty Blades, Standard Bearers, Warlord - 1-2 Troops

[b]Clanrats [260pts]:[/b] 40 Clanrats, Bell Ringer, Clanshields, Reinforced, Rusty Blades, Standard Bearers, Warlord - 1-2 Troops

[b]Clanrats [260pts]:[/b] 40 Clanrats, Bell Ringer, Clanshields, Reinforced, Rusty Blades, Standard Bearers

[b]+ Other +[/b]

[b]Giant Rats [40pts]:[/b] 6 Giant Rats, Hunters of the Heartlands - 2-3 Troops

[b]Giant Rats [40pts]:[/b] 6 Giant Rats, Hunters of the Heartlands - 2-3 Troops

[b]Giant Rats [40pts]:[/b] 6 Giant Rats, Hunters of the Heartlands - 2-3 Troops

[b]Giant Rats [40pts]:[/b] 6 Giant Rats, Hunters of the Heartlands - 2-3 Troops

[b]Giant Rats [40pts]:[/b] 6 Giant Rats, Hunters of the Heartlands - 2-3 Troops

[b]Gnawhole[/b]

[b]Ratling Gun [65pts][/b]

[b]Ratling Gun [65pts][/b]

[b]Ratling Gun [65pts][/b]

[b]Ratling Gun [65pts][/b]

[b]Warp-grinder [75pts][/b]

[b]Warpfire Thrower [70pts][/b]

[b]Warpfire Thrower [70pts][/b]

[b]+ Allegiance +[/b]

[b]Allegiance:[/b] Allegiance: Skaventide

[b]+ Game Options +[/b]

[b]Game Type:[/b] 2000 Points - Battlehost

[b]Grand Strategy:[/b] Hold the Line

[b]++ Total: [1,995pts] ++[/b]

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That is an amazing list.

In a lucky situation, this list could definitely deal with anything,

Yet I fear-fear that your rattling guns may fail in a situation, where your enemy runs around with a 2+ save ignoring rend -1.

But personally the list looks good.

you have a good amount of bodies on the table, while still having some good options for killing.

If there was a more fluffly/ hard hitting list, yours would be one of them.

[Skreech Verminking]

Thanks to @Megahurtz I think I found a least I might try out on the next upcoming tournament, if I can get all of those still missing giant rats painted and have 2 more rattling guns build till then.

Allegiance: Skaventide
- Grand Strategy:
- Triumphs: Inspired
LEADERS
Arch-Warlock (175)**
- General
- Command Trait: Overseer of Destruction
- Artefact: Esoteric Warp Resonator
- Lore of Warpvolt Galvanism: More-more-more Warp Power!
Warlock Bombardier (125)**
- Lore of Warpvolt Galvanism: More-more-more Warp Power!
Plague Priest (85)**
- Artefact: Liber Bubonicus
- Universal Prayer Scripture: Curse
UNITS
60 x Clanrats (390)*
- Rusty Spear
20 x Clanrats (130)*
- Rusty Blade
20 x Clanrats (130)*
- Rusty Blade
1 x Ratling Gun (65)
1 x Ratling Gun (65)
1 x Ratling Gun (65)
1 x Ratling Gun (65)
1 x Warpfire Thrower (70)

6 x Giant Rats (40)
6 x Giant Rats (40)

6 x Giant Rats (40)

6 x Giant Rats (40)

6 x Giant Rats (40)

1 x Ratling Gun (65) ARTILLERY
Warp Lightning Cannon (185) Warp Lightning Cannon (185) CORE BATTALIONS
*Hunters of the Heartlands **Warlord
ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS
     Artefact
TOTAL: 2000/2000 WOUNDS: 180
LEADERS: 3/6 BATTLELINES: 3 (3+) BEHEMOTHS: 0/4 ARTILLERY: 2/4 ARTEFACTS: 2/1 ENDLESS SPELLS & INVOCATIONS: 0/3 ALLIES: 0/400 REINFORCED UNITS: 2/4 DROPS: 19
 

ps: even if the list is saying that it has 19 drops, with the hidden weapon team rule that count would actually drop to 13, the perfect number for any skaven player.

Edited December 28, 2021 by Skreech Verminking

[Megahurtz]

2 hours ago, Skreech Verminking said:

That is an amazing list.

In a lucky situation, this list could definitely deal with anything,

Yet I fear-fear that your rattling guns may fail in a situation, where your enemy runs around with a 2+ save ignoring rend -1.

But personally the list looks good.

you have a good amount of bodies on the table, while still having some good options for killing.

If there was a more fluffly/ hard hitting list, yours would be one of them.

Thank you very much! Was running a similar list in old WFB times with some success. The idea vs a 2+ save is plague or WFT. But yes, have to be lucky that everything is working properly. Especially against bigger monsters... Maybe develop the Claw Lord more against high saves/monster killer. And maybe the high amount of hidden weapon teams will worry the frenemies and force mistakes. 

[Megahurtz]

2 hours ago, Skreech Verminking said:

Thanks to @Megahurtz I think I found a least I might try out on the next upcoming tournament, if I can get all of those still missing giant rats painted and have 2 more rattling guns build till then.

Allegiance: Skaventide
- Grand Strategy:
- Triumphs: Inspired
LEADERS
Arch-Warlock (175)**
- General
- Command Trait: Overseer of Destruction
- Artefact: Esoteric Warp Resonator
- Lore of Warpvolt Galvanism: More-more-more Warp Power!
Warlock Bombardier (125)**
- Lore of Warpvolt Galvanism: More-more-more Warp Power!
Plague Priest (85)**
- Artefact: Liber Bubonicus
- Universal Prayer Scripture: Curse
UNITS
60 x Clanrats (390)*
- Rusty Spear
20 x Clanrats (130)*
- Rusty Blade
20 x Clanrats (130)*
- Rusty Blade
1 x Ratling Gun (65)
1 x Ratling Gun (65)
1 x Ratling Gun (65)
1 x Ratling Gun (65)
1 x Warpfire Thrower (70)

6 x Giant Rats (40)
6 x Giant Rats (40)

6 x Giant Rats (40)

6 x Giant Rats (40)

6 x Giant Rats (40)

1 x Ratling Gun (65) ARTILLERY
Warp Lightning Cannon (185) Warp Lightning Cannon (185) CORE BATTALIONS
*Hunters of the Heartlands **Warlord
ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS
     Artefact
TOTAL: 2000/2000 WOUNDS: 180
LEADERS: 3/6 BATTLELINES: 3 (3+) BEHEMOTHS: 0/4 ARTILLERY: 2/4 ARTEFACTS: 2/1 ENDLESS SPELLS & INVOCATIONS: 0/3 ALLIES: 0/400 REINFORCED UNITS: 2/4 DROPS: 19
 

ps: even if the list is saying that it has 19 drops, with the hidden weapon team rule that count would actually drop to 13, the perfect number for any skaven player.

13 drops is exactly the perfect number and will lead you to victory! Let your fellow ratkin know how it works out!

[Cosmicsheep]

Somewhat similar to a list I’ve been working on, but with more Verminlords and some rat ogors for a bit of punch.

Allegiance: Skaventide
- Grand Strategy: None Chosen
- Triumphs: 
Arch-Warlock (175)*
- General
- Command Trait: Overseer of Destruction  
Warpgnaw Verminlord (275)*
- Universal Spell Lore: Flaming Weapon
Master Moulder (95)*
- Artefact: Rabid Crown  
Verminlord Warbringer (305)**
- Artefact: Flaypelt Cloak  
- Universal Spell Lore: Flaming Weapon
Clawlord (105)**
- Mighty Warlord Command Trait: Verminous Valour
60 x Clanrats (390)**
- Rusty Spear
- Reinforced x 2
20 x Clanrats (130)**
- Rusty Spear
20 x Clanrats (130)**
- Rusty Spear
4 x Rat Ogors (190)**
- Reinforced x 1
1 x Warp-Grinder (75)**
1 x Ratling Gun (65)
1 x Ratling Gun (65)
*Command Entourage - Magnificent
**Battle Regiment
Artefact

Total: 2000 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 3 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 163
Drops: 4
 

[Skreech Verminking]

So I had another mad idea.

this is a list I will at some point try out.

just have to convert-build another 6 rattling guns,

I call it the appearing act or You’ll never see it coming, Yes-yes:

Allegiance: Skaventide
- Grand Strategy: 
- Triumphs: 
Warlock Bombardier (125)*
- General
- Command Trait: Overseer of Destruction  
- Lore of Warpvolt Galvanism: More-more-more Warp Power!
Verminlord Deceiver (345)*
- Universal Spell Lore: Flaming Weapon
Plague Priest (85)*
- Universal Prayer Scripture: Curse
40 x Clanrats (260)*
- Rusty Blade
- Reinforced x 1
40 x Clanrats (260)*
- Rusty Blade
- Reinforced x 1
10 x Stormvermin (110)*
- Halberd & Shield
1 x Warp-Grinder (75)*
1 x Warp-Grinder (75)*
1 x Warp-Grinder (75)
1 x Ratling Gun (65)**
1 x Ratling Gun (65)**
1 x Ratling Gun (65)**
1 x Ratling Gun (65)
1 x Ratling Gun (65)
1 x Ratling Gun (65)
1 x Ratling Gun (65)
1 x Ratling Gun (65)
1 x Ratling Gun (65)
*Battle Regiment
**Hunters of the Heartlands

Total: 1995 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 2 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 148
Drops: 11
 

thoughts?

Ps: don’t be fooled by the drop counter, the list builder just doesn’t understand my genius.

in all matter of fact, thanks to the weapon team rule, this is in all actuality a 2drop

[Megahurtz]

3 hours ago, Skreech Verminking said:

So I had another mad idea.

this is a list I will at some point try out.

just have to convert-build another 6 rattling guns,

I call it the appearing act or You’ll never see it coming, Yes-yes:

Allegiance: Skaventide
- Grand Strategy: 
- Triumphs: 
Warlock Bombardier (125)*
- General
- Command Trait: Overseer of Destruction  
- Lore of Warpvolt Galvanism: More-more-more Warp Power!
Verminlord Deceiver (345)*
- Universal Spell Lore: Flaming Weapon
Plague Priest (85)*
- Universal Prayer Scripture: Curse
40 x Clanrats (260)*
- Rusty Blade
- Reinforced x 1
40 x Clanrats (260)*
- Rusty Blade
- Reinforced x 1
10 x Stormvermin (110)*
- Halberd & Shield
1 x Warp-Grinder (75)*
1 x Warp-Grinder (75)*
1 x Warp-Grinder (75)
1 x Ratling Gun (65)**
1 x Ratling Gun (65)**
1 x Ratling Gun (65)**
1 x Ratling Gun (65)
1 x Ratling Gun (65)
1 x Ratling Gun (65)
1 x Ratling Gun (65)
1 x Ratling Gun (65)
1 x Ratling Gun (65)
*Battle Regiment
**Hunters of the Heartlands

Total: 1995 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 2 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 148
Drops: 11
 

thoughts?

Ps: don’t be fooled by the drop counter, the list builder just doesn’t understand my genius.

in all matter of fact, thanks to the weapon team rule, this is in all actuality a 2drop

Pretty funny, but very high risk. You need to have the bombardier and the priest with the ratlings in order to have max. effect. The deceiver can only teleport one, I believe.

[Megahurtz]

7 hours ago, Cosmicsheep said:

Somewhat similar to a list I’ve been working on, but with more Verminlords and some rat ogors for a bit of punch.

Allegiance: Skaventide
- Grand Strategy: None Chosen
- Triumphs: 
Arch-Warlock (175)*
- General
- Command Trait: Overseer of Destruction  
Warpgnaw Verminlord (275)*
- Universal Spell Lore: Flaming Weapon
Master Moulder (95)*
- Artefact: Rabid Crown  
Verminlord Warbringer (305)**
- Artefact: Flaypelt Cloak  
- Universal Spell Lore: Flaming Weapon
Clawlord (105)**
- Mighty Warlord Command Trait: Verminous Valour
60 x Clanrats (390)**
- Rusty Spear
- Reinforced x 2
20 x Clanrats (130)**
- Rusty Spear
20 x Clanrats (130)**
- Rusty Spear
4 x Rat Ogors (190)**
- Reinforced x 1
1 x Warp-Grinder (75)**
1 x Ratling Gun (65)
1 x Ratling Gun (65)
*Command Entourage - Magnificent
**Battle Regiment
Artefact

Total: 2000 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 3 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 163
Drops: 4
 

I really would love to have some verminlords and rat ogors in there, was my original idea as well. However, not enough points to have an army with some punch. If mixing everything, you might not have enough punch vs. high saves. This is what I try to fix with the plague priests.

[Cosmicsheep]

33 minutes ago, Megahurtz said:

I really would love to have some verminlords and rat ogors in there, was my original idea as well. However, not enough points to have an army with some punch. If mixing everything, you might not have enough punch vs. high saves. This is what I try to fix with the plague priests.

But with the Warbringer casting DDF (hopefully 3 times with a lucky D3 roll) on my 60 Clanrats who are re-rolling 1’s, and have an extra attack thanks to the clawlord, I’m hoping for death by a thousand cuts 😂 

[greg19190]

1 hour ago, Cosmicsheep said:

But with the Warbringer casting DDF (hopefully 3 times with a lucky D3 roll) on my 60 Clanrats who are re-rolling 1’s, and have an extra attack thanks to the clawlord, I’m hoping for death by a thousand cuts 😂 

Did that with stormvermin and against gotrec... Only took 3 Wounds... Realy sucked when that happened dident eaven role bad, thankwell survived 1 round of combat against the angry ginger dwarf though (with 1 wound remaining) and won the game in the end with a warbringer, only 2 models left on from my army... Prize sourcer payed off, fireslayers don't like rats... 

[Noserenda]

Some good looking Skyre there Gutted i sold my own Skyre force years ago!

Still, rolled out my Eshin for a lil test prior to our Campaign weekend and it went... ehhh

My List (Very limited by the initial Campaign mode restrictions, max 6 units and nothing over 300pts!) :

600pts
Warlord Battalion
 
Deathmaster
General, Cube of mists

Deathmaster
The 3 Fangs

Deathmaster

20 Night runners

10 Night Runners

5 Gutter runners 

Coming up against:

Vampire Dragon Centaur

5 Blood Knights

10 Skeletons (Possibly summoned)

Fighting over objectives down the centre line.

I reasoned i couldnt outrun such a fast force so moved up to focus fire on his general, knocking off a couple of wounds before getting smooshed on the charge pretty much! 

All 3 assassins had a go at the general to no use, only for my Three Fangs to instagib it in my next  shooting phase much to everyones shock

Unfortunately despite some early VPs from objectives the Blood Knights unstoppably mowed through my units one at a time and i could never get enough damage to stick past their regen to even slow them down really.

Fun game, but i realised i cant let them charge, even risky long ones need to speedbump better and looking forward to the 1000pt bracket when i can fit a verminlord! 
 

[Skreech Verminking]

8 hours ago, Megahurtz said:

Pretty funny, but very high risk. You need to have the bombardier and the priest with the ratlings in order to have max. effect. The deceiver can only teleport one, I believe.

Yeah, but as a skavenplayer risk is what makes my daily bread😜.

also, the deceiver is just their to get the plague priest up, more then 6away from the enemy, to get his curse spell of on one enemy unit.

the warlock bombardier should be able to use jump from one gnawhole to another.

with the rest of the army tunneling up in the first round, I should be able to get a ton of shooting done, without much of a thought.

whatever foe has been cursed won’t survive too long 

 

[Megahurtz]

13 hours ago, Cosmicsheep said:

But with the Warbringer casting DDF (hopefully 3 times with a lucky D3 roll) on my 60 Clanrats who are re-rolling 1’s, and have an extra attack thanks to the clawlord, I’m hoping for death by a thousand cuts 😂 

Try this on a cursed target, so squeeze in a plague priest! With a thousand paper cuts, we cannot kill anything meaningful at the moment 😞

[Megahurtz]

5 hours ago, Skreech Verminking said:

Yeah, but as a skavenplayer risk is what makes my daily bread😜.

also, the deceiver is just their to get the plague priest up, more then 6away from the enemy, to get his curse spell of on one enemy unit.

the warlock bombardier should be able to use jump from one gnawhole to another.

with the rest of the army tunneling up in the first round, I should be able to get a ton of shooting done, without much of a thought.

whatever foe has been cursed won’t survive too long 

 

For taking risks, I rather risk to blow my stuff up 🙂 But really curious how this goes for you!

[Megahurtz]

10 hours ago, Noserenda said:

Some good looking Skyre there Gutted i sold my own Skyre force years ago!

Still, rolled out my Eshin for a lil test prior to our Campaign weekend and it went... ehhh

My List (Very limited by the initial Campaign mode restrictions, max 6 units and nothing over 300pts!) :

600pts
Warlord Battalion
 
Deathmaster
General, Cube of mists

Deathmaster
The 3 Fangs

Deathmaster

20 Night runners

10 Night Runners

5 Gutter runners 

Coming up against:

Vampire Dragon Centaur

5 Blood Knights

10 Skeletons (Possibly summoned)

Fighting over objectives down the centre line.

I reasoned i couldnt outrun such a fast force so moved up to focus fire on his general, knocking off a couple of wounds before getting smooshed on the charge pretty much! 

All 3 assassins had a go at the general to no use, only for my Three Fangs to instagib it in my next  shooting phase much to everyones shock

Unfortunately despite some early VPs from objectives the Blood Knights unstoppably mowed through my units one at a time and i could never get enough damage to stick past their regen to even slow them down really.

Fun game, but i realised i cant let them charge, even risky long ones need to speedbump better and looking forward to the 1000pt bracket when i can fit a verminlord! 
 

Good luck with your next game! Think about more bodies (clanrats) and maybe some weapon teams!

[Skreech Verminking]

1 hour ago, Megahurtz said:

For taking risks, I rather risk to blow my stuff up 🙂 But really curious how this goes for you!

Same here.

After all It might take a while, till I have another 6rattling guns converted

Edited December 29, 2021 by Skreech Verminking

[Cosmicsheep]

1 hour ago, Skreech Verminking said:

After all It might take a while, till I have another 6rattling guns converted

How and why are you doing the conversion? I’ve just ordered 2 ratling guns from my local store for only £9.50 each. Do people not like the metal sculpt?

[Skreech Verminking]

3 minutes ago, Cosmicsheep said:

How and why are you doing the conversion? I’ve just ordered 2 ratling guns from my local store for only £9.50 each. Do people not like the metal sculpt?

Just to get some personal touch in.

And well I really dislike the look of the current metal weapon teams. (Excluding the warp-grinder team) 

they just look too much like a monkey, and I’m here to play rats.

[SaucyRatBear]

Happy New Year you filthy rats!

[Skreech Verminking]

26 minutes ago, SaucyRatBear said:

Happy New Year you filthy rats!

You too, whatever you are-are? 

[Megahurtz]

Happy New Year to everyone!

But back to business: What do you think about these conversation kits https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/battlebits/battle-bits-ratmen-conversion-parts, available here https://strataminiatures.com/shop/?store-page=Globerat-Conversion-Set-Resin-p222152124? Suitable or not? What about competitions?

[Skreech Verminking]

7 hours ago, Megahurtz said:

Happy New Year to everyone!

But back to business: What do you think about these conversation kits https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/battlebits/battle-bits-ratmen-conversion-parts, available here https://strataminiatures.com/shop/?store-page=Globerat-Conversion-Set-Resin-p222152124? Suitable or not? What about competitions?

Amazing.

definitely suitable, and as for competition, it is gw’s own fouled for ignoring the updating of the skaven.

so if the competition is needed to get gw off of their butts, then yes, this is a good option no matter what

[SaucyRatBear]

For competitions like tournaments and painting competitions it is largely up to the TO but most TO's follow "mostly GW mini's" followed by the rule of cool. I was told once that as long as a random person familiar with the army could reasonably understand what model represents which unit without much explanation you are good. But again... Up to the TO