Dracan Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Review is up by Guerrilla Miniature Games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5kaven5lave Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Dracan said: Review is up by Guerrilla Miniature Games. Does it have points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracan Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 yeah if you can make it out. from round about 54min Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Those traits are nucking futs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angrycontra Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 And another thing I called (unfortunately)... no stormfiend/plague monk battlelines unless your army is nothing but that specific clan. I guess it self-balances the game to some extend (especially if plague monks are indeed still 70 for 10 guys) but man having literally no extra options is just plain sad (especially for skyre). Now I'm suddenly forced to buy multiple kits of clanrats/stormvermin to get some min battleline if I ever want to wield my thanquol, verminlord warpseer, etc. In battle. On a more positive note, if that video is to be believed, stormfiends are now 260p which is quite a discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirjava13 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 ...this is sounding worse and worse for my army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, angrycontra said: And another thing I called (unfortunately)... no stormfiend/plague monk battlelines unless your army is nothing but that specific clan. I guess it self-balances the game to some extend (especially if plague monks are indeed still 70 for 10 guys) but man having literally no extra options is just plain sad (especially for skyre). Now I'm suddenly forced to buy multiple kits of clanrats/stormvermin to get some min battleline if I ever want to wield my thanquol, verminlord warpseer, etc. In battle. On a more positive note, if that video is to be believed, stormfiends are now 260p which is quite a discount. Were you actually expecting that to change? I didnt. Makes no sense for Clawlords to be leading frontline monks and stormfiends. I'll be leaning towards heavy Verminus with supporting stuff anyway. Clawlords never need to be general cuz they can just take traits no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5kaven5lave Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 So it’s not just allegiance for those battlelines, it’s got to be every single unit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, 5kaven5lave said: So it’s not just allegiance for those battlelines, it’s got to be every single unit? Not sure. I didnt see or hear the specifics from the vid cuz its loud af here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5kaven5lave Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Malakithe said: Not sure. I didnt see or hear the specifics from the vid cuz its loud af here Just had another look, yeah he says every single unit. That’s huge. And not in a good way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracan Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 From the video pts # plague claw 160 warp lightning 180 Jezzails 140 3 clan rats 120-200 20-40 doomwheel 160 Hellpit 220 Arch warlock 160 Claw lord 100 Death master 100 grey seer 120 master moulder 100 Plague priest 80 Skritch 140 bombardier 100 warlock engineer 100 Screaming bell 200 Screech 300 Plague furnace 180 thanqoul 400 Corrupter 260 Deceiver 300 war bringer 260 warp seer 260 doom flayer 60 giant rats 60-200 10-40 gutter runners 60-200 5-20 night runners 80-280 10-40 pack masters 60 3 plague censor 60 5-20 plague monks 70-240 10-40 rat ogres 80 2-8 rat swarms 60 2-8 rattling 80 skyre acolytes 60-320 5-30 storm fiends 260 3-9 Storm vermin 140 10-40 warpfire 70 warpgrinder 80 Only batteline is clan rats and storm vermin in mixed skaven... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirjava13 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 This just gets better and better. So is there none of the awesome, "if your general is X, Y is battleline" stuff like in Gloomspite Hits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Im glad Clanrats are still 40 for 200. With their additional bravery and attacks they will be the true meat grinders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracan Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 If the army general is pestilence you get Nurgle allies lol. But yeah sad that the only way to get alternate battleline is to be pure clans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Num Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 So all in all, do you think Skaven seem to improve? Good stuff was teased and given, but much was also taken back... I'm unsure about how I feel about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirjava13 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 I will (try to) stop posting about it after this because it's just all negative from me: I have a Skryre army, and so far nothing is looking good. I can't use my Stormfiends. I can't use my mortars. Warpfire got nerfed. Warplightning got nerfed. The Bombardier is just a different weapon for the Warlock. Are there any Skryre-based battalions? Who are Skaventide allies- can I make a Skryre army and then ally in Clanrats, like I could before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Some bad copy pasta action with that points list. These are the changes I could find via warscroll builder. I hope FW updates their points quick. doomwheel 160 +40 Arch warlock 160 +20 grey seer 120 +20 master moulder 100 Skritch 140 +20 Corrupter 260 +40 war bringer 260 -20 night runners 80-280 base +20 discount - 50? rat ogres 80 -20 rat swarms 60 - 50?! storm fiends 260 - 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinnar Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 So, watched the GMG review, may have missed things. But my two Clan Skryre Enginecovens got....nerfed ish. Arkspark and Gascloud- Akrspark now reduces the power of the cannon roll by 1 to a minimum of 1 (actually, with the buff to cannons, this isn't bad). Gascloud now doesn't have mortars, but Acolytes and Stormfiends with Windlaunchers reroll hits of 1...since Acolytes can run and shoot. I might take Windlaunchers on one of my 3 units of Stormfiends now, since you can't just pack Warpfire throwers. Glad I magnetized everything.... One thing I'm not clear on- Clan Skryre things are battleline if everything is clan Skryre... How does this affect clanrats? I can't take clanrats or stormvermin as one of my three battleline choices in a Skryre army? Does anyone know (or did I miss it) how this might work? Overall a lot of our units got buffed but the rules are....still frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, Kirjava13 said: I will (try to) stop posting about it after this because it's just all negative from me: I have a Skryre army, and so far nothing is looking good. I can't use my Stormfiends. I can't use my mortars. Warpfire got nerfed. Warplightning got nerfed. The Bombardier is just a different weapon for the Warlock. Are there any Skryre-based battalions? Who are Skaventide allies- can I make a Skryre army and then ally in Clanrats, like I could before? Load up on those 2dmg Rattling guns and tear up everything lol and yes there is the Skryre big battalion just like there is now but I think its slightly tweaked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Zinnar said: How does this affect clanrats? I can't take clanrats or stormvermin as one of my three battleline choices in a Skryre army? Does anyone know (or did I miss it) how this might work? Yeah im not clear on this. Clanrats might just be battleline for the entire book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bRock_320 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 I'm really liking the increase of risk/reward in the army, I'll be overcharging a lot of stuff! Really happy that they changed the way shield work as well. Too bad if plague wind mortars are gone, I typically field 2-3 in my list. I'm not surprised about the weapon restrictions on stormfiends (magnetized mine), but it's nice that the different options seem to be a bit more balanced maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracan Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Warpfire throwers look like insane kamikaze missiles... run in close to big unit roll 2 dice per model every 4+ = MW then blow up... very skaveny hahaha. Doomwheels moving 4d6 and with lightning going to 3 + 3+ and being able to supercharge might make them playable Will be very interesting to see what happens with clan rats and storm vermin in a "clan" army.. or how they did it the video doesn't make it super clear. Would be nice if clan rats at least get to be any clan for purposes of determining what is battleline. Then again 3x20 clanrats at 360pts for a 60man battleline tax is hardly prohibitive if even if you want to do pure clan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Been squinting at the video. The text about battleline says that your general can be masterclan or the relevant clan and all other units have to be of that clan. It doesn’t say that skaven can ally with itself but I think this might be a possible faq change. Clans hiring stuff from other clans is a well established part of the fluff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 2 hours ago, angrycontra said: And another thing I called (unfortunately)... no stormfiend/plague monk battlelines unless your army is nothing but that specific clan. I guess it self-balances the game to some extend (especially if plague monks are indeed still 70 for 10 guys) but man having literally no extra options is just plain sad (especially for skyre). Now I'm suddenly forced to buy multiple kits of clanrats/stormvermin to get some min battleline if I ever want to wield my thanquol, verminlord warpseer, etc. In battle. On a more positive note, if that video is to be believed, stormfiends are now 260p which is quite a discount. Hmmm... I get what you mean. But it is the best way to fit the lore. Every clan uses clanrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Clio Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Is the screaming bell usable now? It’s one of my favourite models but it’s rules were soooo underwhelming for the points. Edit: never mind I found it. It looks like it will be useable! Battleshock immunity within 13 inches is huge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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