HorticulusTGA Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Other minor thing : Throggoths aren't from the Greenskinzs race. But they surely are with this faction. I also strongly suspect that the RPG writers had access to a map of a portion of Ghur 😍😍😍 Can't wait to see it. Maybe in the Gargant book. Or the "Siege of Excelsis" one ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmetation Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 50 minutes ago, Ninelives said: @Emmetation Sorry if this information is available somewhere, but I haven't found it so a couple of questions. - Starter set, there's several mentions of it, but no ETA, do we have one? (at least for the PDF version). - The core book mentions some pre-made characters available in the resources sections of the website, do we have an ETA for this? Otherwise super pumped! I am going to try and set up a small party and hopefully we'll get some games in Starter Set we're looking at July hopefully. It got a bit delayed with the shuffle of everyone moving to working from home. As for the pre-gens, we'll get them up next week! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 7 hours ago, Emmetation said: We've spotted a few. Unfortunately this was introduced in the last export when I corrected some last minute typos and it messed up the kerning. We'll have an updated PDF next week. We'll also have an errata form for any issues you spot. Thanks! Np my dude. Every game has issues with conversion. Its a well put together book and the art is amazing. Great Job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Question: Is it possible to make a non-soulbound party? Like classic "met in the tavern" style? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmetation Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 1 minute ago, michu said: Question: Is it possible to make a non-soulbound party? Like classic "met in the tavern" style? Yep. If you check the GM chapter there is literally a heading called "You Meet in a Tavern" 🤣 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninelives Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 46 minutes ago, Chumphammer said: Np my dude. Every game has issues with conversion. Its a well put together book and the art is amazing. Great Job Yep, really enjoying it! But it would be great to have a chance at correcting them at least for the print version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashendant Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 8 hours ago, Emmetation said: We've spotted a few. Unfortunately this was introduced in the last export when I corrected some last minute typos and it messed up the kerning. We'll have an updated PDF next week. We'll also have an errata form for any issues you spot. Thanks! What about lore inconsistencies. I've heard there's a few problems like Troggoths being labelled as Greenskin and Ignax being dead. Unless GW changed something and haven't told us I think neither of those are true. 8 hours ago, michu said: Hysh is itself a sun, Other suns need Hysh to work. Therefore suns are dominion of Hysh. Not all stars are suns ( I know that it's not You said that Malerion is an embodiment of treachery - what better worshippers than backstabbing assassins. And I think Maleneth is more devoted to Morathi than Malerion so some exceptions are possible... We also known that Aqshy is also the sun, atleast of Ghyran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorticulusTGA Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ashendant said: What about lore inconsistencies. I've heard there's a few problems like Troggoths being labelled as Greenskin and Ignax being dead. Unless GW changed something and haven't told us I think neither of those are true. We also known that Aqshy is also the sun, atleast of Ghyran. What's the source on Aqshy being the sun of Ghyran (why only Ghyran, then) ? IIRC that got retconned in AOS2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashendant Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, HorticulusTGA said: What's the source on Aqshy being the sun of Ghyran (why only Ghyran, then) ? IIRC that got retconned in AOS2. Actually i've rechecked and is not definitive, but it was in Mighty Battles. https://ageofsigmar.lexicanum.com/wiki/Gates_of_Dawn What was retconned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorticulusTGA Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ashendant said: Actually i've rechecked and is not definitive, but it was in Mighty Battles. https://ageofsigmar.lexicanum.com/wiki/Gates_of_Dawn What was retconned? The sun is now Hysh for the other Mortal Realms. That retcons other explanations for the night and day cycle in the Realms. But of course some backwards druids can still believe Aqshy to be their sun, but its just their belief and not the common belief in Ghyran. Also that doesn't prevent the existence of other sun-like celestial bodies (like Sigendil or Ignax when it was still chained). But as an AOS1 reference, I think we can treat this belief as non-consequential for the wider setting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashendant Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 1 minute ago, HorticulusTGA said: The sun is now Hysh for the other Mortal Realms. That retcons other explanations for the night and day cycle in the Realms. But of course some backwards druids can still believe Aqshy to be their sun, but its just their belief and not the common belief in Ghyran. Also that doesn't prevent the existence of other sun-like celestial bodies (like Sigendil or Ignax when it was still chained). But as an AOS1 reference, I think we can treat this belief as non-consequential for the wider setting. I don't remember the core rulebook for the 2nd ever saying that Hysh is the sun. The whole Ulgu-Hysh cycle was described as metaphysical relationship that adjusts the strength of the light of each of the realms suns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorticulusTGA Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Uh. There never were references to "each of the realms suns" whatsoever. About the linked orbits of the two Realmspheres, it's not just "metaphysical", it's really two Realmspheres in the Aethierc void that shed light or darkness on the other Realms. Phil Kelly said it here in the video : "And as the Realms Light, Hysh, is in front of the Realm of Shadows, that forms day for the Realms." It also p. 80 of the Core Book, and p. 110 explains that Hysh's light reach all the AOS cosmos. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopyZebra Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 One of the things about a tabletop rpg is that you can modify the setting and lore as needed for your table. While it's harder for an established setting like AoS, I've changed minor details around in published RPG settings forever. The nature of the sun is something you can set for your table as you believe is correct - it's unlikely to have an impact on play and the stories you tell. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopyZebra Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 @Emmetation is there a release date for the PDF of the GM screen? I'd love to get more lore bits like the adventure hooks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmetation Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 30 minutes ago, LoopyZebra said: @Emmetation is there a release date for the PDF of the GM screen? I'd love to get more lore bits like the adventure hooks. In the next few weeks. Shouldn't be too far off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninelives Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 I am a tad confused by an example on page 150 : "Darach attacks and hits the Troggoth, getting 2 successes. His Kurnoth Greatsword deals 2 + S Damage, so he deals a total of 4 Damage. The Troggoth’s tough hide gives it a natural Armour of 2, meaning it takes only 2 Damage (4 – 2). The Troggoth’s Toughness is reduced by 3. " Why is the Toughness not reduced by 2 ? And is the "2 + S" meant to be "2 x 2" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmetation Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, Ninelives said: I am a tad confused by an example on page 150 : "Darach attacks and hits the Troggoth, getting 2 successes. His Kurnoth Greatsword deals 2 + S Damage, so he deals a total of 4 Damage. The Troggoth’s tough hide gives it a natural Armour of 2, meaning it takes only 2 Damage (4 – 2). The Troggoth’s Toughness is reduced by 3. " Why is the Toughness not reduced by 2 ? And is the "2 + S" meant to be "2 x 2" ? Sorry yeah, that last line is an error. The Troggoth's armour was changed from 1 to 2 late in the game. I thought I had amended the example but I missed that last bit. The Troggoth's Toughness should be reduced by 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravinsild Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, Ninelives said: I am a tad confused by an example on page 150 : "Darach attacks and hits the Troggoth, getting 2 successes. His Kurnoth Greatsword deals 2 + S Damage, so he deals a total of 4 Damage. The Troggoth’s tough hide gives it a natural Armour of 2, meaning it takes only 2 Damage (4 – 2). The Troggoth’s Toughness is reduced by 3. " Why is the Toughness not reduced by 2 ? And is the "2 + S" meant to be "2 x 2" ? I believe 2 + S means 2 + successes. So basically any successes over the minimum required is extra damage. Assuming I understand this accurately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninelives Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Emmetation said: Sorry yeah, that last line is an error. The Troggoth's armour was changed from 1 to 2 late in the game. I thought I had amended the example but I missed that last bit. The Troggoth's Toughness should be reduced by 2 Ok great! And the +S is meant to be a "times 2" correct? Edited May 8, 2020 by Ninelives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmetation Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 No, + S is plus successes. So any successes you get are added to damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninelives Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Ravinsild said: I believe 2 + S means 2 + successes. So basically any successes over the minimum required is extra damage. Assuming I understand this accurately. 1 minute ago, Emmetation said: No, + S is plus successes. So any successes you get are added to damage. Ohh I see, sorry my bad. I thought the successes were multiplied by the damage value, 😅 with this example the maths were still working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorticulusTGA Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Just now, xking said: References to different suns were made in books, Ghur had an wild and predatory sun and the gloomspite gitz battletome says something about multiple suns and other celestial bodies. As I said in the very post above, Hysh's Realmsphere being the sun of the Mortal Realms doesn't prevent the existence of other celestial bodies. It's just that they do not function as generic suns for all the Mortal Realms, only for portions of them, and in usually strange ways (like chained Ignax). And if older fluff contradicts the new, updated AOS2 one, the later will take precedence, of course. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninelives Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Anybody would know why the Black Ark Corsair (page 50) has an asterisk (*) after the Silver Tongue Talent? My understanding was that the asterisks come when there is a required condition (often skills) to have that Talent, but can't see any in the description of the talent page 89. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuminethMage Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 11 hours ago, Ninelives said: Anybody would know why the Black Ark Corsair (page 50) has an asterisk (*) after the Silver Tongue Talent? My understanding was that the asterisks come when there is a required condition (often skills) to have that Talent, but can't see any in the description of the talent page 89. I think you are right, either they forgot to add the condition or to delate the asterisk. I would ignore the asterisk for the time being. You could add this to their errata file, they'll try to update the PDF within this week if I remember correctly: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd0dNjz_0WdCUe49Ys5XPDjfEEB9dNWwPCyl1E8yBcpxwIFZA/viewform Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninelives Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, LuminethMage said: I think you are right, either they forgot to add the condition or to delate the asterisk. I would ignore the asterisk for the time being. You could add this to their errata file, they'll try to update the PDF within this week if I remember correctly: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd0dNjz_0WdCUe49Ys5XPDjfEEB9dNWwPCyl1E8yBcpxwIFZA/viewform Thanks for the link! I was waiting for it, did not know it was already live. I have spotted quite a few mistakes haha @Emmetation actually, is there no way to submit more than one issue per form? I have started working on a Google Sheet listing them... If I use the same format would that be okay to share with you guys? Edited May 11, 2020 by Ninelives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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