Carrion Empire

[Carnelian]

Didn't mean to dissapoint anyone but also better to have tempered expectations! If you get a battletome and spells that's more than the beastmen cos of the new characters. 

[Aegisgrimm]

Is there anything that Skaven would really need, model-wise?  Really they need a plastic Specialists kit that makes Jezzails, Warpfire throwers, ets.  As they are all teams it would be perfectly workable.

[JPjr]

Terrain piece, I can see Skaven getting something like a 13 sided, warp fire spitting, rune covered black pillar like a particularly ratty big Tesla coil.

[kenshin620]

37 minutes ago, Aegisgrimm said:

Is there anything that Skaven would really need, model-wise?  Really they need a plastic Specialists kit that makes Jezzails, Warpfire throwers, ets.  As they are all teams it would be perfectly workable.

Updated old plastics would also be nice like night runners or rat ogors.

And we finally got an updated plastic set so they have shown they can do it! (albeit the small Grot Fanatic set, but it counts!)

[khadgar567]

gotta give neferata credit guys this may not be the bone daddys idea but right after the bad moon rises we get another release of vampires. this may look like a coincidence but it feels like neferata might be sending few forces to sow some cruel terror of her own and I can see nagash is smiling from ear to undead ear.

[Barbossal]

Ooooh boy here I go wishlisting again:

Skaven Battletome

• Skryre Weapon Teams: Box of three teams. Can be built as any of the following: Doomflayer, Warp-Grinder, Ratling Gun, Poison Wind Mortar, Warpfire Thrower.
•  Skryre Jezzails/New Ranged Unit
• Skryre Acolytes  + New Alt. Build
• Eshin Night Runners/Gutter Runners: These guys are ancient, back to my beloved Mordheim Days.
• Skryre Warlock Engineers
• Moulder Rat Ogres & Packmaster kit

Thats 6 new kits that would overhaul most of the range. A lot of the other models just need a cracking reboxing and paint jobs to really look spiffy again. Giant Rats and Rat Swarms will probably fall away with good reason.

 

FEC is all green pastures of  new stuff. No idea how they'll adapt the range.

 

[Klamm]

Neither army is likely to tempt me to buy it, but I am excited about the possibilities (Skaven and FEC have some of the more unique lore). Hopefully the factions get a new battletome and a smattering of new models, as well as the obligatory endless spells and terrain. My guesses:

• A two-model piece of FEC terrain. One half is the 'Royal Marquee', a regal tent outpost for a lord's hunting party with wealthy amenities. Then you have its true form: a 'Carrion Cave' where the ghouls pile up the bones of victims. I think it's likely that GW will realize that the delusion is the best part of the FEC lore, and so represent it on the tabletop. This could take the form of an endless spell, perhaps, or:
• A new Vargulf kit. I know, there are other finecast models that need replacing, but the vargulf is hideous and a new kit could have added customization alt-version possibilities. Plus, as these are among the more magically potent characters aside from Kings, you could have a Morathi-like dual model for the projected delusion and the actual beast. Perhaps you release a pack of Bretonnian style heroes as stand-in option for infantry heroes, it could introduce a fun new mechanic to the army (though best leave it at a few heroes: nobody wants to paint two armies for one).  
• An Arborash Ushoran model (got those mixed up). Not strictly essential, as death has a good ratio of named characters, but would be nice. 
• As for the Skaven, I have one major desire: explain WTF Thanquol is doing in the mortal realms! Or, pull the plug and turn that model into a generic Hero or new, coincidentally similar named hero. 
• If there's to be a combined Skaven release, then Moulder and Eshin need the most updates. I'd, of course, love to see some Skaven sky pirate ships but I wonder what the scope of the release will be. I think we'll be lucky to see a new Rat Ogor kit and some new Night Runners. But perhaps I'm wrong. 
• If the Skaven terrain isn't realmstone of some sort, I'll kiss a Crypt Horror. 

[ManlyMuppet88]

Probably going to be focussed on other projects for a while but Skaven are always tempting.....

I do love that the community immediately goes into overhype mode on these previews - “soon” becomes next week and “exciting news on the way” becomes new models and everything else I ever wanted. 😁 

[Blueraven84]

Skaven have too many characters and other units (like globadiers for example) as only in metal or finecast, so I don't think just a battletome will suffice...

[Neil Peckett]

I would like lots of new Skaven models please. Brand new crazy AoS models, not rehashes of old stuff. 

 

Neil

[Kirjava13]

Our ratty friends need a lot of work if they're to join their friends/mortal adversaries in AoS, as noted tonnes of their line is still metal and resin, so either they're getting a BoC-style battletome, which would be quite disappointing to me, ORRRRR a whole new range AND a battletome all glory to the Horned Rat!!!

[Skreech Verminking]

4 hours ago, ManlyMuppet88 said:

Probably going to be focussed on other projects for a while but Skaven are always tempting.....

I do love that the community immediately goes into overhype mode on these previews - “soon” becomes next week and “exciting news on the way” becomes new models and everything else I ever wanted. 😁 

Warpstone fussed hype activated, impossible of stopping  until the consumers dies of the black hunger.

[Skreech Verminking]

2 hours ago, Blueraven84 said:

Skaven have too many characters and other units (like globadiers for example) as only in metal or finecast, so I don't think just a battletome will suffice...

Sadly around 75percent of the skaven range is made out of resin or Metall and those who aren’t mostly look very strange (mutated monkey rats (nightrunners))

[Skreech Verminking]

2 hours ago, Kirjava13 said:

Our ratty friends need a lot of work if they're to join their friends/mortal adversaries in AoS, as noted tonnes of their line is still metal and resin, so either they're getting a BoC-style battletome, which would be quite disappointing to me, ORRRRR a whole new range AND a battletome all glory to the Horned Rat!!!

Certainly my friend how could you even doubt the great horned rat.

 

[Skreech Verminking]

2 hours ago, Kirjava13 said:

Our ratty friends need a lot of work if they're to join their friends/mortal adversaries in AoS, as noted tonnes of their line is still metal and resin, so either they're getting a BoC-style battletome, which would be quite disappointing to me, ORRRRR a whole new range AND a battletome all glory to the Horned Rat!!!

Certainly my friend how could you even doubt the great horned rat.

 

[Lucio]

Gut instinct suggests that Skaven will collapse to a similar 3 faction option, Pestilens, Skyre and Moulder to the Gloomspite Gitz and Legion of Nagash.

 

Pestilen's in a good place, all their kits are plastic and sell enough

 

Skyre needs Acolytes and Weapon Teams to back up the Stormfiends, though Acolytes could be Stormvermin alternative build with some kind of gun-lance

 

Moulder needs the most work, with new Rat Ogres, plus a variety of beasts and packmasters.

 

 

All told, the Skaven should look similar, but with a bit less choice, but more of the fun emphasis on toys & gimics, rather than hundreds of clanrats

[Skreech Verminking]

10 minutes ago, Lucio said:

Gut instinct suggests that Skaven will collapse to a similar 3 faction option, Pestilens, Skyre and Moulder to the Gloomspite Gitz and Legion of Nagash.

 

Pestilen's in a good place, all their kits are plastic and sell enough

 

Skyre needs Acolytes and Weapon Teams to back up the Stormfiends, though Acolytes could be Stormvermin alternative build with some kind of gun-lance

 

Moulder needs the most work, with new Rat Ogres, plus a variety of beasts and packmasters.

 

 

All told, the Skaven should look similar, but with a bit less choice, but more of the fun emphasis on toys & gimics, rather than hundreds of clanrats

Verminus?

Verminus?? 

Verminus???

Jokes aside.

i think it really will be a combination of the Skavenclans

although I think it’ll probaly include the verminus clan instead of the pestilense.

since the traitor rat are a well more fanatic kind of faction who seem to go their own way.

(although I’d like it if they were combined back together)

verminus in the other hand has  aged very well In the last past years.

it is also one of the only skaven faction which has literally no non plastic models in its range (excluding Skaven Warlord on Brood Horror since he is from Fg)

also it would be very strange to literally just ignore this clan after it has got such a heavy preview in the skaven faction review from the community website.

edit: it would be very strange to just trash the whole verminus range, when their whole faction is made out of plastic, and has a shadespire warband.

[Lucio]

Just now, Skreech Verminking said:

Verminus?

Verminus?? 

Verminus???

Jokes aside.

i think it really will be a combination of the Skavenclans

although I think it’ll probaly include the verminus clan instead of the pestilense.

since the traitor rat are a well more fanatic kind of faction who seem to go their own way.

(although I’d like it if they were combined back together)

verminus in the other hand has  aged very well In the last past years.

it is also one of the only skaven faction which has literally no non plastic models in its range (excluding Skaven Warlord on Brood Horror since he is from Fg)

also it would be very strange to literally just ignore this clan after it has got such a heavy preview in the skaven faction review from the community website.

It's just not very unique, they're just ratmen, and lots of them. That can be folded into the other factions as a core battleline choice

[Skreech Verminking]

Just now, Lucio said:

It's just not very unique, they're just ratmen, and lots of them. That can be folded into the other factions as a core battleline choice

The unicness about the skaven faction is that they have a combination of everything.

the first thing a player would think of hearing the name skaven, is a horde of vermin, scurrying forward trying to gnaw on the bones of their enemy’s, while beeing treaded as trash in the same time.

if the skaven would loose any of their flavor their unicness would be gone.

playing a only skyre armie will never feel like playing a real skaven armie.

why do you think that many players (including myself)  call clan pestilence traitors.

because next to mostly beeing included in a Nurgle armie,  they are missing the whole other aspect that makes the skaven unic.

without the clanrats (meathsields) Stormvermin and Warlords, the skaven will never gain their missing unicness.

afterall the verminus clan always should have been the bulk of an armie.

 

 

[Skreech Verminking]

Sorry I might have just loosed myself😓

Edit: what I meant to say is that the skaven were a unic faction which had the option of fielding such a variety of different things and that were all combined under a bulk of meathsields.

this unicness of beeing able to field a vast horde army which could include warpstone experimented weapons, and monsters that could tear through the next lines, was something that no other amie had, and still has.

ripping them apart, was what literally killed them. 

Even if you might say that fielding a ton of clanrats which is accompanied from mutated beasts, heavy shooting and magic, isn’t unic, I would have to disagree with you there. Because it something that only the skaven are able of doing.

[Ashendant]

6 hours ago, Aegisgrimm said:

Is there anything that Skaven would really need, model-wise?  Really they need a plastic Specialists kit that makes Jezzails, Warpfire throwers, ets.  As they are all teams it would be perfectly workable.

They need more stuff that isn't Skryre, since it has almost twice than every other Skaven faction.

[Ungface]

I cant see the releasing a soup tome while also saying "50% of your kits are metal or finecast with the wrong base lol enjoy"

[Kirjava13]

1 minute ago, Ashendant said:

They need more stuff that isn't Skryre, since it has almost twice than every other Skaven faction.

In fairness most of the Skryre options come from weapons teams- they have five unit choices that are made up of two-man (two-rat?) models. Take those away and what have ya got? Stormfiends (End Times, Acolytes, Jezzails, Doomwheels, cannons.

[Ashendant]

20 minutes ago, Kirjava13 said:

In fairness most of the Skryre options come from weapons teams- they have five unit choices that are made up of two-man (two-rat?) models. Take those away and what have ya got? Stormfiends (End Times, Acolytes, Jezzails, Doomwheels, cannons.

Skryre have 11 different options. Every other Skaven faction has between 5 or 6. Out of a combination of 6 factions, Skryre has more than 1/4th of the Skaven factions units. 

[Jetengine]

Drop Verminus and Masterclan, fold them into the other factions. Every Clan has generic dudemans who take a hit and slightly better dudemans to be better infantry. Masterclan are mercurial and pop up in other clans to ensure things are going well.