Austin Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Filie said: Ah that's fair! I really do want to bring Skragrott but I do realize that the bad moon and him by extension aren't that great f or a squig list. I don't know, maybe i'm just being really inefficient when it comes to not bringing stabbas and not fully comitting to a squig list. The battalion bonus letting you re roll the random movement for Squigs under loonshrine is pretty great, and makes Skragrott much more important in a squig list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skabnoze Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, bsharitt said: Has anybody seen definitively what size of base the new Manger Squigs are on? I heard it was 100mm, but I don't have a reference to where I saw that at. We should know for sure when they go up for pre-order on saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsharitt Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Just now, Skabnoze said: I heard it was 100mm, but I don't have a reference to where I saw that at. We should know for sure when they go up for pre-order on saturday. Yeah, I was hoping to get ahead of the curve and get a base ordered to rebase my current one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filie Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Caladancid said: The battalion bonus letting you re roll the random movement for Squigs under loonshrine is pretty great, and makes Skragrott much more important in a squig list. Unless I'm entierly wrong, only the super battalion (Squigvalanche?) has something that needs the bad moon, But I am a bit unsure how to work that into a list Edited January 10, 2019 by Filie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Congratz Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Stabbas vs Pokin spears and thoughts on Shootas i got 200+ grots with pokin spears and 80 with bows. Sadly only 20 with stabbas. if stabbas are better than Pokin Spears... any ideas on how to convert Pokin Spears over to Stabbas? Thanks before hand 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirkdragonslayer Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Congratz said: Stabbas vs Pokin spears and thoughts on Shootas i got 200+ grots with pokin spears and 80 with bows. Sadly only 20 with stabbas. if stabbas are better than Pokin Spears... any ideas on how to convert Pokin Spears over to Stabbas? Thanks before hand 😊 Cut the spear shaft down to a handle, add a knife, sword, or club to the top of the hand. Maybe just give them a good stick to smack people with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Congratz Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, dirkdragonslayer said: Cut the spear shaft down to a handle, add a knife, sword, or club to the top of the hand. Maybe just give them a good stick to smack people with. Great idea ill be bashin em up! Thanks man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorokyl Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Skabnoze said: I heard it was 100mm, but I don't have a reference to where I saw that at. We should know for sure when they go up for pre-order on saturday. Pretty sure i heard 80mm, i believe from the GW twitch stream. if it was 100mm you could bet it costs more... I believe the Troggoth is a 70mm, but maybe it's 80 also. These are both new base sizes for AoS, but 80mm is used in 40k i guess. you can buy it from the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasticCraic Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Caladancid said: The battalion bonus letting you re roll the random movement for Squigs under loonshrine is pretty great, and makes Skragrott much more important in a squig list. It's the other way around mate, the 6" pile in (Big Batallion) depends on being under the light of the Moon. The reroll movement (smaller Batallion) just happens. That being said I still agree that people are sleeping on how big a deal Skraggrot could be for a Squig army, because the pile in from out of combat thing is massive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekrund Oath Splitters Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) Oh i know how big of a deal he is, but thats 310pts for a character and a battalion + what ever else requirements you need. He isnt needed for such a huge loose in your army. I would rather have more bodies on the table than piling in with a smaller army. If we work out the min requirements its: LK 220pts MB 300pts SRS 140pts 3 x 5 SH 210pts 1 MS 240pts Thats 1170pts min for 18 models, 3 artefacts and 2 CPs. Thats a bit excessive dont you think? You get 2 casts and unbinds, 15 models to hold objectives and 2 monsters. 830pts left over isnt really alot. Youd save 550pts not taking this battalion and Skraggrot. I just cant see myself having him in an all Squig list, he will get left behind and murdered.... Squigs are fairly independent as a subfaction and dont really need the moon, and whilst yes the 6" pile in is huge, it isnt 90pts + mangler squig huge. Id rather have a colossal squig instead to give me more wounds and a beatstick. Also if we work it out, squig hoppers/manglers have an effective threat range of 20", colassal squigs is 24" and boingrots are 17". This is without running, so it is quite easy to get a turn 1 charge. If we add in squig lure we are looking at 24", 27" and 20" instead so you dont really need a 6" pile in as it wont be over the enemies deployment or even on the board. Turn 2 is the earliest you can use this battalion with Skraggrot and turn 3 the latest. Of which it will last for 2 turns longer if you are chasing it, that means the battalion earns you 13.33333pts back a turn if you use it for 3 turns straight. Now like i said he is amazing but its alot of pts for such a small army... squigs are already small enough of an army when you factor in all the support characters and endless spells you need in the list to begin with. Edited January 10, 2019 by Ekrund Oath Splitters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) I wonder if he can just deepstrike himself out of trouble, or at least to a better position and not left behind Edited January 10, 2019 by novakai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekrund Oath Splitters Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, sorokyl said: Pretty sure i heard 80mm, i believe from the GW twitch stream. if it was 100mm you could bet it costs more... I believe the Troggoth is a 70mm, but maybe it's 80 also. These are both new base sizes for AoS, but 80mm is used in 40k i guess. you can buy it from the site. He looks about 80mm there, two liberators wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasticCraic Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, novakai said: I wonder if he can just deepstrike himself out of trouble, or at least to a better position and not left behind You can only reposition if you are not in Combat: Hand of Gork requires you to be redeployed if you are more than 3" from any enemy units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, PlasticCraic said: You can only reposition if you are not in Combat: Hand of Gork requires you to be redeployed if you are more than 3" from any enemy units. I meant if he was like too slow and being left behind by his army, I was wondering if Skagrott could just use Hand of Mork on himself to reposition since he is a Gloomspite unit that is visible to himself 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt_merchant Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I remember reading somehwere a few pages back that there was confusion as to whether the shaman on the arachnarok could take the headress of many eyes. I know it mentions doing that in the warhammer community article but is there any confirmation he can take this item or is it limited to only scuttlebosses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melcavuk Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 As far as I have seen any SPIDERFANG heroes can take the spiderfang artifacts, but only SCUTTLEBOSS may take the command trait. So currently it looks like you're good to take the headdress on the Arachnarok Shaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishsausage Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I was looking to resist but I guess I cannot, looking on advise for my first 1000pt list (and shopping list at the same time): 300 Loonboss on Mangler Squigs 80 Fungoid 90 5x Boingrot Bounderz 90 5x Boingrot Bounderz 100 5x Squig Hoppers 100 5x Squig Hoppers 240 Mangler Squigs 1000pts Alternatively I was looking into taking out Fungoid Manger for 2nd Loonboss on Mangler but magic seems just too good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasticCraic Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, novakai said: I meant if he was like too slow and being left behind by his army, I was wondering if Skagrott could just use Hand of Mork on himself to reposition since he is a Gloomspite unit that is visible to himself Yeah for sure, that would be allowable. There are aggro applications too, like repositioning himself to get a good vector on an Endless Spell such as the Pendulum with his second cast. Or better still - resposition an A-Rok to do that, then charge in and kick their ass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timcz Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, polishsausage said: I was looking to resist but I guess I cannot, looking on advise for my first 1000pt list (and shopping list at the same time): 300 Loonboss on Mangler Squigs 80 Fungoid 90 5x Boingrot Bounderz 90 5x Boingrot Bounderz 100 5x Squig Hoppers 100 5x Squig Hoppers 240 Mangler Squigs 1000pts Alternatively I was looking into taking out Fungoid Manger for 2nd Loonboss on Mangler but magic seems just too good. Did I see that the fungoid is now 90 points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsharitt Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Melcavuk said: As far as I have seen any SPIDERFANG heroes can take the spiderfang artifacts, but only SCUTTLEBOSS may take the command trait. So currently it looks like you're good to take the headdress on the Arachnarok Shaman Yeah that was weird and also for Moonclan shamans, the command traits are for all of them, but artifacts are for madcap shamans only so the Fungoid cave shaman is out of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsharitt Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Timcz said: Did I see that the fungoid is now 90 points? Yes he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishsausage Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 so I guess madcap to fill the list for nightshroud + squig lure T1 otherwise 2x boxes of hoppers and 2x boxes of manglers and just build them duplicate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumbalina Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 hours ago, polishsausage said: so I guess madcap to fill the list for nightshroud + squig lure T1 otherwise 2x boxes of hoppers and 2x boxes of manglers and just build them duplicate I'm thinking the madcap shaman will be the better default shaman as cheaper, access to artefacts and can still double cast spells. I'm currently working on my list which will be as follows. Loonking 260pts Loonboss on giant squig 110pts Madcap shaman moppit 80pts 60 stabba, 9 nets, poking spears 360pts 6 squig herds 70pts 6 squig herds 70pts 15 squig hoppers 270pts 15 squig hoppers 270pts 15 boinggrot knights 300pts 5 sneaky smugglers 70pts Squig stampede 90pts 1950pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Large Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Gumbalina said: I'm thinking the madcap shaman will be the better default shaman as cheaper, access to artefacts and can still double cast spells. I'm currently working on my list which will be as follows. Loonking 260pts Loonboss on giant squig 110pts Madcap shaman moppit 80pts 60 stabba, 9 nets, poking spears 360pts 6 squig herds 70pts 6 squig herds 70pts 15 squig hoppers 270pts 15 squig hoppers 270pts 15 boinggrot knights 300pts 5 sneaky smugglers 70pts Squig stampede 90pts 1950pts Loonkings 220 points mate, like the look of this though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumbalina Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 In that case I'd add the mighty mushroom to that as well. Pretty great to kill off a big unit which could be an issue for this list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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