AoS 2 - Gloomspite Gitz Discussion

[baiardo]

3 hours ago, Chumphammer said:

I dont have more Troggoths lol. That is all I have at this time and till a new book I dont really wanna get more gitz unless I see a good deal 

same! 😆

So many years and goblins are still meh..I'm with you, waiting the new book and no more buy for me if nothing change.

The worst is that they have the best minis in the game and no way to be effectively used.

Edited August 26, 2021 by baiardo

[Thostos]

New FaQs gave out Elite Keywords to several units!

 Except of course Troggs....

 

[Mutton]

Troggoth Hag is 405 points now. What do you guys think?

[Chumphammer]

1 hour ago, Mutton said:

Troggoth Hag is 405 points now. What do you guys think?

******? A joke? Gotrek is 435....

I dont think she will be ever played competitively. For 85pts more you can have Bundo 

[Ganigumo]

I played her in a game at the start of aos3 and she's pretty durable, being a monster hero has it's benefits in aos3 and amulet of destiny is exactly what she needed.

Of course forgeworld priced it out of ally range for any of the many destruction factions that had troggoth allies because they hate money or something.

[Swamp Trogg]

Furthermore, if you look closely, you'll see that her warscroll is slightly better: here profile degrades slowly, and not as much as before. This, plus all the bonuses for being a hero, a monster and a wizard, in this edition, i think she's in a good spot.

And at least, she's still there

[baiardo]

1 hour ago, Chumphammer said:

******? A joke? Gotrek is 435....

I dont think she will be ever played competitively. For 85pts more you can have Bundo 

agree, bundo is too good to skip for her.

 

edit: the change to the hoppers make me laugh so hard🤣

Edited August 27, 2021 by baiardo

[Nezzhil]

Squig Gobba and the Colossal Squig are better now too.

[baiardo]

13 minutes ago, Nezzhil said:

Squig Gobba and the Colossal Squig are better now too.

Those are so slightly changed that I don't understand why they wasted time on it. Nobody gonna notice the difference.

Edited August 27, 2021 by baiardo

[Nezzhil]

3 minutes ago, baiardo said:

Those are so slightly changed that I don't understand why they wasted time on it. Nobody gonna notice the difference.

They always do small changes and they rarely redo completely a warscroll. If you expect big changes when the next book arrives... Well...

[baiardo]

49 minutes ago, Nezzhil said:

They always do small changes

pink horrors.

 

[Nezzhil]

6 hours ago, baiardo said:

pink horrors.

 

Read all my completely phrase. If you don't understand that pink horrors was a special case because that warscroll was rule interaction problematic is not my problem.

 

See ya in another topic.🙂

[baiardo]

C’mon guys, the colossal squig now is 325 for that little “buff”🤣 

probably they are planning more sinergies in the future and upgraded his cost now…or is simply antipathy for the faction.

The “bonus” they give us we alredy had with feral roar but now is 25points more.

Edited September 1, 2021 by baiardo

[Chumphammer]

So our local 1st Tournament in Sept got Cancelled due to the interior having a spike. Annoying but it actually means we are running a 1 day event for our club that was going, so 12 of us are playing on the 11th, and for fun I am gonna use my Gitz!

Pics to come soon as I am trying to crank them out painted for the 11th. Gonna also be on SagaofDice with them for funzies. 

Squignos will be Bundo for the event. Too many MW around to keep Squignos safe atm. 

Atm my list is:



ITs mainly what I have. I do have squig hoppers and 20 Boingrots but atm I feel Boingrots just "bounce" off of stuff without their 2D on the charge and AS stacking 

[McNibs]

Hey I usually just play against my roommate and we are pretty relaxed on rules when it comes to forming the army. He is Tzeentch and mainly has flamers holding of on pink horrors for right now. I am gloomspite, I've been running trolls to help with the magic resistance and their ward is fantastic against all the mortal wounds. For the most part he just dominates me in games. I have some back up squigs but when i used mainly squigs I was erased before I even got a turn.  Any suggestions?

Leader

Troggboss

Mollog

Skragott

Battleline

3xFellwater Troggs

3xRockgut Troggs

3xRockgut Troggs

3xRockgut Troggs

Other

5xBoingrot Bounders

5xBoingrot Bounders

5xBoingrot Bounders

6xSneaky Snufflers

1635/1650 points

[Gitzdee]

56 minutes ago, McNibs said:

Hey I usually just play against my roommate and we are pretty relaxed on rules when it comes to forming the army. He is Tzeentch and mainly has flamers holding of on pink horrors for right now. I am gloomspite, I've been running trolls to help with the magic resistance and their ward is fantastic against all the mortal wounds. For the most part he just dominates me in games. I have some back up squigs but when i used mainly squigs I was erased before I even got a turn.  Any suggestions?

Leader

Troggboss

Mollog

Skragott

Battleline

3xFellwater Troggs

3xRockgut Troggs

3xRockgut Troggs

3xRockgut Troggs

Other

5xBoingrot Bounders

5xBoingrot Bounders

5xBoingrot Bounders

6xSneaky Snufflers

1635/1650 points

I think i would try to change skragott and the snufflers to a fungoid shaman and another dankhold trogg. Could also add the loonboss on giant squig to go with some bounders.

Edited September 4, 2021 by Iksdee

[Chumphammer]

Finished my gloomspitegitz in their current form! Giant squig is Bundo Whalebiter prozy as Kragnos isn't worth it atm

 

 

[Chumphammer]

So did my 1 day event. Went 1-2.

I came 2nd (coolest looking) army which was run. missed 1st by 1pt.

I outplayed all of my opponents but Gitz just dont have anything in the tank. No shinnaigans, no oompf. just generic damage and thats it. Will do more of a report but I rolled ZERO summon units in 3 games...and ZERO roars.

Man my rolls were bad lol.

Only got fungoing CP once.

Bane of game 1 was Phoenix guard. Hit with Trolls/Bundo and Troggboss and just bounced.

Game 2 was Gotrek. Avoided him but turn 3+ he got me. Also Played Veins of Ghur and 2 obj deployed his side of the table pretty much with Gotrek between me and them.

Main thoughts other than Gitz need a new book:

1: Rockgut Troggoths are meh. only attacks hurt when you cant buff 3's to wound
2: Troggboss is NOT WORTH 250pts
3: Bundo isnt that good. Without being a chunk of bodies like in Sons lists he is just a giant taget with a 4+ save. Maybe if you went all in on buffing him you would still be average.

Oh well. Hopefully new book 2022/2023

[Boingrot Bouncer]

On 9/12/2021 at 6:20 AM, Chumphammer said:

So did my 1 day event. Went 1-2.

I came 2nd (coolest looking) army which was run. missed 1st by 1pt.

I outplayed all of my opponents but Gitz just dont have anything in the tank. No shinnaigans, no oompf. just generic damage and thats it. Will do more of a report but I rolled ZERO summon units in 3 games...and ZERO roars.

Man my rolls were bad lol.

Only got fungoing CP once.

Bane of game 1 was Phoenix guard. Hit with Trolls/Bundo and Troggboss and just bounced.

Game 2 was Gotrek. Avoided him but turn 3+ he got me. Also Played Veins of Ghur and 2 obj deployed his side of the table pretty much with Gotrek between me and them.

Main thoughts other than Gitz need a new book:

1: Rockgut Troggoths are meh. only attacks hurt when you cant buff 3's to wound
2: Troggboss is NOT WORTH 250pts
3: Bundo isnt that good. Without being a chunk of bodies like in Sons lists he is just a giant taget with a 4+ save. Maybe if you went all in on buffing him you would still be average.

Oh well. Hopefully new book 2022/2023

Yes, our lack of MW is the reason I am thinking of leaning hard on Squig Hoppers and their ability to do MW when they fly over a model. As long as you don't get them in a fight they can dish out quite a lot of MW before they are destroyed. If you go second and are lucky to get at double turn you can destroy most units with their MW-output done twice and can have a hope that they survive for another round.

My Boingrots Bouncer which I love is simply not as good since they need to get in a fight and with the coherency rules you need to run them as MSU whcih menas that when they die you will only get back 3 (if you get them back).

For new battle tome we need more rend -2 and better possibilty for MW. And make trolls monster with 5 wounds. It would also be nice with something like Orruks Big Whaa so that you could mix the different gitz better.

[Ganigumo]

On 9/12/2021 at 12:20 AM, Chumphammer said:

So did my 1 day event. Went 1-2.

I came 2nd (coolest looking) army which was run. missed 1st by 1pt.

I outplayed all of my opponents but Gitz just dont have anything in the tank. No shinnaigans, no oompf. just generic damage and thats it. Will do more of a report but I rolled ZERO summon units in 3 games...and ZERO roars.

Man my rolls were bad lol.

Only got fungoing CP once.

Bane of game 1 was Phoenix guard. Hit with Trolls/Bundo and Troggboss and just bounced.

Game 2 was Gotrek. Avoided him but turn 3+ he got me. Also Played Veins of Ghur and 2 obj deployed his side of the table pretty much with Gotrek between me and them.

Main thoughts other than Gitz need a new book:

1: Rockgut Troggoths are meh. only attacks hurt when you cant buff 3's to wound
2: Troggboss is NOT WORTH 250pts
3: Bundo isnt that good. Without being a chunk of bodies like in Sons lists he is just a giant taget with a 4+ save. Maybe if you went all in on buffing him you would still be average.

Oh well. Hopefully new book 2022/2023

Troggboss isn't bad in a Trogg build, but unless you're using him to buff multiple units of troggs and unlock trogg battleline I agree he's not worth his points.

Rockguts definitely need an escort of some kind to be useful. Hopefully the new Sloggoth helps out a bit, but we'll need to wait and see. 

[Chumphammer]

2 hours ago, Ganigumo said:

Troggboss isn't bad in a Trogg build, but unless you're using him to buff multiple units of troggs and unlock trogg battleline I agree he's not worth his points.

Rockguts definitely need an escort of some kind to be useful. Hopefully the new Sloggoth helps out a bit, but we'll need to wait and see. 

Sloggoth is an auto include for me. 150pts for a 18" +1 to hit bubble is really helpful for Squigs

[Nezzhil]

I played two games testing Sloggoth and I think he is a must-have in GSG. I don't expect to see any competitive list without him.

 

The Stabbas are like they would be after the AoS3 Faqs.

 

The Troggoths (including the troggboss) become meat mincer

 

I want to try a Squig army soon with him

[Charlo]

My guess is the Sloggoth won't live past an FAQ for it's buffing abilities outside of the faction. Invest at your own peril!

I'm currently trying to make 600pts for Path to Glory and its very tough with Gitz! I've got Squig minis on the pile and I'm always 30ish points under or a little over.

Minis I have are:

• Zarbagz Gitz
• Box of 10 Hopperz/ Bounders
• 20 Squigs
• Loonboss on Giant Squig
• Madcap Shaman

Currently theres two options:

List 1 - Requires a Purchase, but uses ZG's which could be fun

Zarbag's Gitz, 10 Squigs, 10 Hoppers, 6 Sneaky Snufflers.

Total: 600

List 2 - Probably a bit better, but requires a Fungoid Cave Shaman

Loonboss on Squig, 10 Squigs, Fungoid Cave Shaman, 2x5 Boingrot Bounderz

Total: 575 - could add the Burning head or something.

[ShaneHobbes]

1 minute ago, Charlo said:

My guess is the Sloggoth won't live past an FAQ for it's buffing abilities outside of the faction. Invest at your own peril!

Seriously. It's like no one has learned anything from GWs FAQs for their FAQa these last couple months lol 

I do want the Mirebrute Troggoth regardless though. 

[Ganigumo]

To be honest it would make sense to just slap the gloomspite keyword on the sloggoth and put it in gitz faction as well. Its a troggoth ridden by grots.

I was hoping for a similar situation with the mirebrute, where there was a version with no orruk on top. But I could probably just do that and run it as a dankhold.

I've got both armies anyways so I'm not too concerned though