Skabnoze Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, PlasticCraic said: Then you are a Legend, and deserve to have some fun pulping things with your 2 units of 15! Just 2 units? Edited January 8, 2019 by Skabnoze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasticCraic Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 @Malakree you are right though, I'll just have to get used to thinking of them as two separate factions (Squigs and Grots) with some overlap. There are plenty of tools in the book, regardless of my thoughts on the keywords! It's no more than a minor footnote in knee-stabbing history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakree Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, PlasticCraic said: @Malakree you are right though, I'll just have to get used to thinking of them as two separate factions (Squigs and Grots) with some overlap. There are plenty of tools in the book, regardless of my thoughts on the keywords! It's no more than a minor footnote in knee-stabbing history. You aren't telling me that you're sad you don't have to waste 240 points on the Goblapalooza for your Squigswarm. That's almost another Manglerboss on it's own! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasticCraic Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Haha fair. I do want to do a Gobbapalooza list, but more for novelty value really. I think there is a build there, but you'd really have to build the list around them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumbalina Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Malakree said: You aren't telling me that you're sad you don't have to waste 240 points on the Goblapalooza for your Squigswarm. That's almost another Manglerboss on it's own! It is a mangler squig though but you get the loonboss and change if you take the goblinpalooza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eevika Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I made a spreadsheet with all the points and prices for the models. Enjoy your list building! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EwGmkBa7RPHzlAPoYLJeIVQR2kyHYGMEFRrH8IxK5IM/edit?usp=sharing 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekrund Oath Splitters Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 5 hours ago, Malakree said: That is a great catch which I totally hadn't picked up on. I suspect you are correct that it's a deliberate design choice to stop you using Squig Hoppers to deliver a massive quantity of fanatics, thus differentiating the different types of Gloomspite armies. More importantly it means things like the Sporesplata Fanatics, Spiker, Scaremonger can't be used to buff them. Also note that it means the Loonboss on Mangler Squigs cannot be buffed to reroll all hits with Brewgit. This means that there are definately two types of Moonclan armies, Squig and Grot armies. Was trying to tell people this for ages... 😅 as for the prodder, the best way to charge it up is with sneaky snufflers, 5 for 70pts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke of Gisoreux Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, Eevika said: I made a spreadsheet with all the points and prices for the models. Enjoy your list building! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EwGmkBa7RPHzlAPoYLJeIVQR2kyHYGMEFRrH8IxK5IM/edit?usp=sharing Very nice, thank you. But all spiderfang units and battalions are missing. Also the Bonegrinder Gargant is 400 points, not 360. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eevika Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, Duke of Gisoreux said: Very nice, thank you. But all spiderfang units and battalions are missing. Also the Bonegrinder Gargant is 400 points, not 360. I have no interest in spiderfang so I didn´t bother adding them immidiately but Ill try to get to it I´ll be sure to fix the bonegrinder price! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Never thought that the Moonclan heroes will be so cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekrund Oath Splitters Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 33 minutes ago, Skreech Verminking said: Never thought that the Moonclan heroes will be so cheap well they are just goblins... 🤣 they wont be killing any megabosses in single combat 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 26 minutes ago, Ekrund Oath Splitters said: well they are just goblins... 🤣 they wont be killing any megabosses in single combat 😉 Well does t really matter to me, although i really like the idea of how Gw gave the same hero’s with different weapon options, different point values Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakree Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Skreech Verminking said: Well does t really matter to me, although i really like the idea of how Gw gave the same hero’s with different weapon options, different point values That's because Skarsnik has long been the only Grot Warboss option. This way it's actually a choice between him and the bog standard Loonboss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushmagul Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Hello all! what do you think about the squig hoppers vs boingrot bounderz? I really like the bounderz one, very powerfull, i was thinking about build one squig army, with: loonboss on mangler 5 hoppers 5 hoppers 10 boingrot 10 boingrot 18 herds as a start (1090 points). should I include skragrot ? how could I complete or improve this list ? thanks ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eevika Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Duke of Gisoreux said: Very nice, thank you. But all spiderfang units and battalions are missing. Also the Bonegrinder Gargant is 400 points, not 360. Spiderfang units and battalion added Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekrund Oath Splitters Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 27 minutes ago, Ushmagul said: Hello all! what do you think about the squig hoppers vs boingrot bounderz? I really like the bounderz one, very powerfull, i was thinking about build one squig army, with: loonboss on mangler 5 hoppers 5 hoppers 10 boingrot 10 boingrot 18 herds as a start (1090 points). should I include skragrot ? how could I complete or improve this list ? thanks ! Liken it so far! Well just keep adding more squigs and wizards 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakree Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Ushmagul said: Hello all! what do you think about the squig hoppers vs boingrot bounderz? I really like the bounderz one, very powerfull, i was thinking about build one squig army, with: loonboss on mangler 5 hoppers 5 hoppers 10 boingrot 10 boingrot 18 herds as a start (1090 points). should I include skragrot ? how could I complete or improve this list ? thanks ! Squig Rider Stampede is pretty key IMO, combined with a few big units of Hoppers and it lets you control the board quickly. ****** the Squig Herds and get more Hoppers to fill out your battleline slots. I'd go for a unit of 20 Squig Hoppers and 2 units of 10, that's 860 points with the stampede. Add in a Loonboss on Cave Squig and for 970 points you have a solid core which fills out your battleline spots and lets you zip around the board! From there you have 1030 points spare grab your Loonboss on Mangler for 300 leaving you 730. You have a couple of choices now, you could roll into a Squigalanche by adding an extra Mangler Squig, ham it up with 30 Boingrot Bounders! and a Fungoid Cave Shaman or if you want a really dirty combo how about a Webspinner Shaman on Arachnarok Spider and the Scrapskuttle's Arachnocauldron to get some good old fashion magical lulz. Quote Heroes - 710Loonboss on Mangler Squig - (300)Loonboss on Giant Squig - (110)Webspinner on Arachnarok - (300) Battleline - 50020 x Squig Hoppers - (360)6 x Squig Herds - (70) 6 x Squig Herds - (70) Units - 60015 x Boingrot Bounderz - (300)15 x Boingrot Bounderz - (300) Battalion/Endless Spells - 190Squig Rider Stampede - (140)Scrapskuttle's Arachnocauldron - (50) Total - 2000/2000Command Points - 1Drops - 6 I know I said 10x10 Squig Hoppers but honestly the math on this list is just so fricking good. Plus all your Hoppers/Boingrots are in the Stampede for extra awesomes! EDIT: Oh the hopper list without big spider. Spoiler Heroes - 520Loonboss on Mangler Squig - (300)Loonboss on Giant Squig - (110)Loonboss on Giant Squig - (110) Battleline - 54020 x Squig Hoppers - (360)5 x Squig Hoppers - (90)5 x Squig Hoppers - (90) Units - 80010 x Boingrot Bounderz - (200)10 x Boingrot Bounderz - (200)10 x Boingrot Bounderz - (200)10 x Boingrot Bounderz - (200) Battalion/Endless Spells - 140Squig Rider Stampede - (140) Total - 2000/2000Command Points - 1Drops - 7 Boing! Edited January 8, 2019 by Malakree I can maths honest! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke of Gisoreux Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just took a picture of my Gloomspite Gitz. They are at 8200 points. 7 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushmagul Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 40 minutes ago, Malakree said: Squig Rider Stampede is pretty key IMO, combined with a few big units of Hoppers and it lets you control the board quickly. ****** the Squig Herds and get more Hoppers to fill out your battleline slots. I'd go for a unit of 20 Squig Hoppers and 2 units of 10, that's 860 points with the stampede. Add in a Loonboss on Cave Squig and for 970 points you have a solid core which fills out your battleline spots and lets you zip around the board! From there you have 1030 points spare grab your Loonboss on Mangler for 300 leaving you 730. You have a couple of choices now, you could roll into a Squigalanche by adding an extra Mangler Squig, ham it up with 30 Boingrot Bounders! and a Fungoid Cave Shaman or if you want a really dirty combo how about a Webspinner Shaman on Arachnarok Spider and the Scrapskuttle's Arachnocauldron to get some good old fashion magical lulz. I know I said 10x10 Squig Hoppers but honestly the math on this list is just so fricking good. Plus all your Hoppers/Boingrots are in the Stampede for extra awesomes! EDIT: Oh the hopper list without big spider. Hide contents Heroes - 520Loonboss on Mangler Squig - (300)Loonboss on Giant Squig - (110)Loonboss on Giant Squig - (110) Battleline - 54020 x Squig Hoppers - (360)5 x Squig Hoppers - (90)5 x Squig Hoppers - (90) Units - 80010 x Boingrot Bounderz - (200)10 x Boingrot Bounderz - (200)10 x Boingrot Bounderz - (200)10 x Boingrot Bounderz - (200) Battalion/Endless Spells - 140Squig Rider Stampede - (140) Total - 2000/2000Command Points - 1Drops - 7 Boing! I really like the second one list, I understand that you remove the herds because they are not in the batallion, correct? , would you include a fungoid shaman to try to get more cp or to be able to cast some magic, It helps the squigs ? and another mangler ? or the colossal squig? what do you think? the double loonbos is ok ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakree Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, Ushmagul said: I really like the second one list, I understand that you remove the herds because they are not in the batallion, correct? , would you include a fungoid shaman to try to get more cp or to be able to cast some magic, It helps the squigs ? and another mangler ? or the colossal squig? what do you think? the double loonbos is ok ? Yeah there are a lot of different options you can run for this kind of list. There are actually only 3 units in the Stampede battalion, which is there to try and get your unit of 20 hoppers across the board and pinning your opponent. It also gives you an extra artefact for the battleplans where it matters. I think you want at least 1 of both types of Loonboss as they bring different kinds of utility to the army. Having a Squig mounted general makes the Hoppers battleline and they are far better than the squig herds for only 20 points more. You lose 2 wounds but gain a bravery. Squig herds have a chance to Mortal YOU if they flee in your lines Hoppers are way quicker Hoppers do MW when they pass over units during a move. So you'd rather have Hoppers than Herds if you have the points spare, they act as the first wave in front of your bounders/mangler letting you setup the devastating charges. They also operate as a screen for those more important units. I'm not sure I'd take a second ManglerBoss over just a regular Mangler Squig, it's 60 points for the CA and ****** mooncutta attacks. Wizards are definitely a great addition, squig lure is fantastic! The Colossal Squig is amazing. Especially hilarious with a Loonboss on Giant Squig with the Squig Lure spell. 5d6+3" movement is ridiculous and gives a slightly below average move of 18" The reason for the Arachnarok+Cauldron is because it's 2 spells a turn on a monster who can keep up with your army, is a wizard and the cauldron gives it access to all the Moonclan Lore spells, including Squig Lure! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Descrutchion Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I'm having some difficulty finding an image for the Sneaky Snufflers warscroll. Does anyone know if their +1 attack buff is keyworded to effect Moonclan or is it Moonclan Grots like the Sporesplatta buff. Just seeing how I can buff my squigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skabnoze Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 15 hours ago, Ekrund Oath Splitters said: I believe so, i read the book in person and only looked at them briefly. I went straight to squigs haha! 😂😅 its a curse of mine.... attracted by all things squiggily 🤣 How could that possibly be a curse? It sounds more like a positive character feature to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skabnoze Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 15 hours ago, Ekrund Oath Splitters said: 20 would 480pts.. 😅🤣 I'd do it. In fact, I would do more than that. I still might to be honest. I don't have the points, and I am not terribly interested in going out and finding them until I get my book in the mail, but once I know the points break down I am inclined to make a list with nothing but Fanatics and the absolute minimum other choices to make the list legal. Every now and again I used to put a similar army on the table in various editions of Warhammer Fantasy. You just try to stuff as many fanatics as possible into the army. Those forces were utterly random and almost like playing pinball rather than warhammer. You just rolled each turn to see if your fanatics would kill more of the enemy, more of your force, or just run into trees or each other. You have to have an opponent that does not get super annoyed at silly games such as that though. I doubt it would be the most effective army build - but I am sure it would catch someone off guard when your tiny units of minimum sized grots explode into giant masses of whirling death. I'd probably lose terribly - but there will be a lot of carnage before that happens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekrund Oath Splitters Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/01/08/8th-jan-know-your-squigsgw-homepage-post-3/ Best article ever! I get the feeling that stalagsquigs just live in rocks, not that they are rocks.... Edited January 8, 2019 by Ekrund Oath Splitters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I had the impression that stalasquigs just coats a rock and lives as a immobile predator (like flytrap). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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