Dankboss Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 It's a nice box that has a clear focus, which is a direction their discounted boxes could learn from, rather than be random junk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0deb1ue Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Dankboss said: It's a nice box that has a clear focus, which is a direction their discounted boxes could learn from, rather than be random junk. Are you bring sarcastic? it’s two completely different armies in a box... one is squigs, the other is troggs... and they don’t synergise at all... unless you count the bad moon! I guess at least there isn’t a random moonclan loonboss like the beginner set. Edited November 16, 2020 by C0deb1ue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 its a really good boxset better then last year that for sure, you can either expand you either Jawz of Mork or Megamob troggs are really good stand alone unit in many list they don't really need that much synergy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelfric Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 The Troggoths are £110 on their own, so if that's the cost of the box I'll probably buy it. I can always sell the Squiq part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 actually 15 squig (14 is probably an error) plus Loonboss is pretty bonkers as well when you combine it with the Troggoth part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaneHobbes Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 As someone still collecting Troggoths for an ever growing Megamob and just starting to collect Squigs for Jaws of Mork this box is perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0deb1ue Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Probably need to see the price before you decide it’s good value. Price would be the only thing it has going for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganigumo Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 41 minutes ago, C0deb1ue said: Are you bring sarcastic? it’s two completely different armies in a box... one is squigs, the other is troggs... and they don’t synergise at all... unless you count the bad moon! I guess at least there isn’t a random moonclan loonboss like the beginner set. Honestly a few squigs arent a bad addition to a troggoth list, they can be cheapish objective nabbers and screens, plus boingrots are always good, and a unit of 6 rockguts is pretty solid as a solo unit in a non trogg list. I would've rather seen some fellwaters over the loonboss but if dankholds end up getting a good warscroll rewrite this box is solid for squigs or trolls. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dankboss Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 7 hours ago, C0deb1ue said: Are you bring sarcastic? it’s two completely different armies in a box... one is squigs, the other is troggs... and they don’t synergise at all... unless you count the bad moon! I guess at least there isn’t a random moonclan loonboss like the beginner set. I think everyone else answered for me lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0deb1ue Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Dankboss said: I think everyone else answered for me lol Yes I saw the responses... they were either collecting both armies, selling the other half or acting like you would actually put random troggs in Jaws of Mork or squigs in a mega mob (good luck with that). I guess it just depends on how broad your definition of focus is?! yeah you can put anything with anything but you won’t because the points are too tight and the units don’t do enough without the synergy. but im defo looking forward to seeing all the trogg/Squig mash-ups Edited November 16, 2020 by C0deb1ue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dankboss Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 It's focused because it contains strong concise elements to build an army with; Rockguts and Boingrots are found in numerable Gitz armies and you get a good amount of each, while it has two heroes that facilitate building said army. Glogg's Megamob and Jaws of Mork aren't the only way people play, and even then I would still consider some hoppers in a trogg army or a unit of 6 Rockguts in Jaws. I guarantee that there's many people who are thrilled with this box, as it allows them a discount for an army of functional models that they may otherwise not have been able to afford. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0deb1ue Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) Like I said, we differ in what we would consider focused. I agree it's good value and "functional models" is a much more accurate description than focused. Can you imagine if they actually wanted to help the player and not just push excess models? e.g. Trogg battleforce: trogg boss/dankhold/fellwaters and rockguts +/- fungal or Squig Battleforce: Mangler/giant cave/squig herds and boingrots +/- fungal ...those are focused and lets someone field a coherent army straight out of the box. They would be amazing for beginners to pick up in terms of rules and models. Edited November 16, 2020 by C0deb1ue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 or you could just start out with having the options of playing both sides and build up which side you want, which is also good for newer players. the box gives you the ability to tryout if you want to play squigs or Troggs at the start which a pure force doesn't allow you to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0deb1ue Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) I guess if you have the money to throw around. But you will hardly get the idea of playing either army from 1 character and 1unit. It's not even a range of units. Edited November 16, 2020 by C0deb1ue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a74xhx Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 I've confused - there are 14 hoppers in that new box? What? How is that of any use? (The picture shows 14. And the number at the bottom of the box says 22 miniatures. 6 Troggs + Dankhold + Giant Cave + 14 hoopers = 22). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Just now, a74xhx said: I've confused - there are 14 hoppers in that new box? What? How is that of any use? (The picture shows 14. And the number at the bottom of the box says 22 miniatures. 6 Troggs + Dankhold + Giant Cave + 14 hoopers = 22). i think14 squig has to be a printing error since the squigs and grot come in 5 on the spues so it not possible to have 4 without purposely taking out one. some of the 40k also have this same error like the IG and space marine one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a74xhx Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Just now, novakai said: i think14 squig has to be a printing error since the squigs and grot come in 5 on the spues so it not possible to have 4 without purposely taking out one. some of the 40k also have this same error like the IG and space marine one Was just coming back here to say that the rumour thread has a AOS facebook reply. Apparently, there are 15. Which makes much more sense. >some of the 40k also have this same error like the IG and space marine one Someone in GW really wasn't paying attention when they did the box art! 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Just now, a74xhx said: Was just coming back here to say that the rumour thread has a AOS facebook reply. Apparently, there are 15. Which makes much more sense. >some of the 40k also have this same error like the IG and space marine one Someone in GW really wasn't paying attention when they did the box art! 😬 must be some teleworking Intern lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelfric Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 30 minutes ago, novakai said: must be some teleworking Intern lol. It is very noble of GW to offer so many internships in these troubled times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirkdragonslayer Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) On 11/16/2020 at 3:28 AM, C0deb1ue said: Yes I saw the responses... they were either collecting both armies, selling the other half or acting like you would actually put random troggs in Jaws of Mork or squigs in a mega mob (good luck with that). I guess it just depends on how broad your definition of focus is?! yeah you can put anything with anything but you won’t because the points are too tight and the units don’t do enough without the synergy. but im defo looking forward to seeing all the trogg/Squig mash-ups If you are starting a Troggherd there is some decent synergy. I mean, you are going to want more Troggoths obviously, but it's a solid start having a troggboss and two units to fill battleline requirements. Add some more Rockguts, Fellwaters, and a Shaman and you are pretty set. 15 Hoppers and a Hopper Loonboss may sound a bit disjointed, but it's actually a decent support group that can work independent from the Troggs. You can build them as a hammer using 15 Bounders and the Loonboss to be your mobile kill squad or you can build them as small squads of hoppers to run around and grab objectives (which troggs aren't great at). Last year's box was like a grab bag of random units, this one seems more intentional in how it's designed. Edited November 17, 2020 by dirkdragonslayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0deb1ue Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Well yes, the intention is to sell models they haven't sold enough of. GW is about making money and that’s fine. If they wanted focus - same subfaction and if they wanted a taster set then more variety (those duplicate units could be fellwaters or Squig herd) It’s relatively better than an awful box set last year... but it would be nice if we set the benchmark a bit higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 well it apparently works for GW though since Last year that box did really well (granted the other 3 boxes had their own problem) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0deb1ue Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 I mean maybe, but they are selling multiples of the exact same units that were in the box last time.. bounders/rockguts, so that doesn’t scream massive sales to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 nah, i am certain those are two of best seller items in Gitz that why GW keeps pushing them out all of the time. the one that probably don't sell as much is either the Gobblapalooza, Fanatic, or Snufflers. since those are unit that you don't need many of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 And another White Dwarf for us... I'm very worried if it implies a non-appearance during the Broken Realms campaign. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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