RareDesire Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Hello i have been playing some games with differend list trying to find the list that works for me. i belive that this list here for me is both fun. what do you guys think of it? and how could i make it more competitive and like being competitive. Allegiance: Gloomspite Gitz - Mortal Realm: Ghur LEADERS Fungoid Cave-Shaman (90) - Lore of the Moonclans : The Great Green Spite Loonboss on Giant Cave Squig (110) - Moon-cutta Loonboss on Mangler Squigs (280) - General - Command Trait : Fight Another Day - Artefact : Gryph-feather Charm Skragrott, The Loonking (220) - Lore of the Moonclans : The Hand of Gork UNITS 60 x Stabbas (360) - Stabbas & Moon Shields - 9 x Barbed Nets - 3 x Moonclan Flag Bearers - 3 x Badmoon Icon Bearers 6 x Squig Herd (70) 6 x Squig Herd (70) 5 x Loonsmasha Fanatics (140) 6 x Rockgut Troggoths (280) 10 x Boingrot Bounderz (200) ENDLESS SPELLS / TERRAIN Malevolent Maelstrom (10) Mork's Mighty Mushroom (90) Malevolent Moon (40) Scuttletide (30) 1990/2000 - 161w Thanks for the feedback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fungoid guy Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Hey guys. Just wanted to share my undefeated list. It feels solid and fits my play style. So far I’ve beaten Khorne, Nurgle, Greenskinz, and Skaven. Taking it to a tournament if I can find one near me. Allegiance: Gloomspite GitzMortal Realm: GhurLeadersFungoid Cave-Shaman (90)- General- Trait: Boss Shaman - Lore of the Moonclans: The Hand of GorkTroggoth Hag (380)- Artefact: Gryph-feather Charm Battleline40 x Shootas (240)- 4x Barbed Nets- 1x Moonclan Flag Bearers- 1x Badmoon Icon Bearers40 x Stabbas (260)- Pokin Spears & Moon Shields- 6x Barbed Nets- 2x Moonclan Flag Bearers- 2x Badmoon Icon Bearers20 x Stabbas (130)- Stabbas & Moon Shields- 3x Barbed Nets- 1x Moonclan Flag Bearers- 1x Badmoon Icon BearersUnits6 x Rockgut Troggoths (280)3 x Fellwater Troggoths (150)3 x Fellwater Troggoths (150)BehemothsColossal Squig (300)Endless Spells / TerrainSuffocating Gravetide (20)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 184 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garuun Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 On 7/18/2019 at 6:11 AM, Keilerei said: Allegiance: Gloomspite GitzSkragrott, The Loonking (220)- Lore of the Moonclans: The Hand of GorkWebspinner Shaman on Arachnarok Spider (280)- Artefact: Totem of the Spider God - Lore of the Spiderfangs: Sneaky DistractionScuttleboss on Gigantic Spider (100)- General- Trait: Monstrous Mount - Artefact: The Black Fang Loonboss (70)60 x Stabbas (360)- Pokin Spears & Moon Shields10 x Spider Riders (200)10 x Spider Riders (200)10 x Spider Riders (200)6 x Sneaky Snufflers (70)Spider Rider Skittermob (120)Scrapskuttle's Arachnacauldron (40)Scuttletide (30)Mork's Mighty Mushroom (90)Total: 1980 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 163 What are your thoughts on this list? Scuttleboss as suicide general and to make spiders available as battle line. After he dies skrag takes the wheel. Magic support from skrag and the arachnadok shaman, dishing out mortals and hand of gorking the stabbas into position if necessary. Spiders try to clean the board but die quickly and aim more to take objectives. Thanks in advance, this community is amazing! Edit: after scuttleboss dies and I name skragrot as general, may I use his ability to manipulate the moon? Thought this might be my over 9000 start because I really need him flirting with the moon not before the 3rd battle round... No, you only get the one general Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keilerei Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 17 hours ago, Garuun said: No, you only get the one general Yeah correct me if I am wrong but does it not say in the core rules :"If your general is slain, pick another model from your army to become your new general." So after the scuttleboss dies, I should be able to declare skragrott as my new general and therefore use his command ability? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakree Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 9 hours ago, Keilerei said: Yeah correct me if I am wrong but does it not say in the core rules :"If your general is slain, pick another model from your army to become your new general." So after the scuttleboss dies, I should be able to declare skragrott as my new general and therefore use his command ability? Pitched battle rules explicitly overwrite this rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorokyl Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Hi guys... I have just over 2k painted and have had mixed success. Trying to figure out what that I already own do I want to paint next to make my lists a bit better. I do not want more than 1 big 60 blob of stabbas (pain in the ass) but I have 20 shootas I can paint. For now I use 2x6 squig herd for battleline. Having trouble with damage after I get my Manglers killed. Not sure if I should focus on more synergy or just better units. Here's what I have painted: Loonboss on Mangler Squigs Fungoid Cave-Shaman Loonboss on Giant Cave Squig Loonboss with Giant Cave Squig Madcap Shaman Skragrott Webspinner Shaman on Arachnarok Spider Zarbag & Gitz 5x Loonsmasha Fanatics 1 x Squig Gobba 12 x Squig Herd 60 x Stabbas 1x Mangler Squigs And unassembled and/or unpainted: Loonboss Gobapalooza 10x Boingrot Bounderz 20x Shootas 6x Sneaky Snufflers 5x Sporesplatta Fanatics 5x Loonsmasha Fanatics (additional to what is painted) 12x Squig Herd (additional to what is painted) Here's a 2k list I just came up with that only involves finishing Loonboss on foot. Let me know how I can make it better by replacing with units from above! Skragrott, The Loonking (220) Loonboss on Mangler Squigs (280) Fungoid Cave-Shaman (90) Webspinner Shaman on Arachnarok Spider (280) Zarbag (160) Loonboss (70) 60 x Stabbas (360) - Pokin Spears & Moon Shields 5 x Loonsmasha Fanatics (140) 6 x Squig Herd (70) 6 x Squig Herd (70) 7 x Zarbag's Gitz (0) Mangler Squigs (240) TOTAL: 1980/2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garuun Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 On 7/25/2019 at 6:28 AM, Keilerei said: Yeah correct me if I am wrong but does it not say in the core rules :"If your general is slain, pick another model from your army to become your new general." So after the scuttleboss dies, I should be able to declare skragrott as my new general and therefore use his command ability? Page 55 ghb, you only get one general sorry bud 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blubearbare Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 Allegiance: Gloomspite GitzLeadersLoonboss on Mangler Squigs (280)- General- Trait: Fight Another Day - Artefact: The Clammy cowl Fungoid Cave-Shaman (90)- Lore of the Moonclans: The Hand of GorkLoonboss with Giant Cave Squig (100)Fungoid Cave-Shaman (90)- Lore of the Moonclans: Itchy NuisanceBattleline12 x Squig Herd (140)12 x Squig Herd (140)60 x Stabbas (360)- Stabbas & Moon Shields- 9x Barbed Nets- 3x Moonclan Flag Bearers- 3x Badmoon Icon BearersUnits10 x Boingrot Bounderz (200)10 x Boingrot Bounderz (200)6 x Sneaky Snufflers (70)6 x Rockgut Troggoths (280)Endless Spells / TerrainMalevolent Moon (40)Total: 1990 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 210 is this list semi competitive and viable for local store? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasticCraic Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 22 minutes ago, blubearbare said: is this list semi competitive and viable for local store? Yep, I personally think it's ideal for that kind of level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose madness Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 Hey people! I'd like to show my latest projects. I made my own loonboss on a squig (fellwater squig!) that I will use för my squig/troll army. I want to use some squigs in the troll list and will try to make a few more for a herd. There is also a fungoid shaman I kitbashed. The rocks from the rockguts are excellent for bases lol. Heres a raw look of the squig during building for inspiration, really cool for a troggoth army. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Large Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Anyone tried meeting engagements? I’m curious what people have found works with it’s restrictions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Spears or not on grots? I Believe the non-spear version in general is better. But i have no real game experience and would love to hear the community opinion on this matter. I'm open to change my mind 🙌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakree Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 4 hours ago, Kimbo said: Spears or not on grots? I Believe the non-spear version in general is better. But i have no real game experience and would love to hear the community opinion on this matter. I'm open to change my mind 🙌 If you play them like an average player they are functionally equivilent until -2 to hit. If you use them absolutely perfectly stabbas are better than spears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 32 minutes ago, Malakree said: If you play them like an average player they are functionally equivilent until -2 to hit. If you use them absolutely perfectly stabbas are better than spears. Ok! Can you elaborate "if you use them absolutely perfectly? 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakree Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Kimbo said: Ok! Can you elaborate "if you use them absolutely perfectly? 🙂 Uh personally, not really. I know broadly why/how to do it but that's second hand from a much better player. So instead I'll link you to the podcast where it gets discussed/brought up. http://podcast.justplaygames.uk/5-0-at-bobo-gloomspite-gitz-list-tech-with-ritchie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDemento Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 11 hours ago, Kimbo said: Ok! Can you elaborate "if you use them absolutely perfectly? 🙂 Stabbas are better but if you get into bigger units of 60 or maybe even 40 then the spear’s longer 2” range means you’d get 3 ranks of attacks, which starts to tip the balance, which is more pronounced when running sporeplattas and/or sneaky snufflers for the +1 attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasticCraic Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 You'll have 6 or 9 nettas anyway, so that already takes a bite out of the difference. If you're swamping the enemy in a big blanket, the main ones who won't be in range are the 1" coherency spacers filling the gaps between enemy units. You might get the odd one of them in with the 2" weapons that you wouldn't otherwise. Otherwise you're fighting in 2 ranks anyway. If you are facing -1 to Hit, Stabbas are better (they are hitting on 5s and Spears on 6s, so you are getting double the hits). That equation swings back the other way if you are facing -2 or more to Hit (everything is hitting on 6s anyway at that point, so it's better to have any extra attacks in range). The whole calculation hinges around what percentage you assume you will get in, which obviously varies from each combat to the next. But I think consensus amongst most Gitz players I know is that you can usually get enough Stabbas in to make the 4+ to hit slightly better. But there really isn't very much difference in practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakree Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 On 8/1/2019 at 2:59 AM, DrDemento said: Stabbas are better but if you get into bigger units of 60 or maybe even 40 then the spear’s longer 2” range means you’d get 3 ranks of attacks, which starts to tip the balance, which is more pronounced when running sporeplattas and/or sneaky snufflers for the +1 attacks. So mathematically with no other effects the two are perfectly balanced for any number of attack increases. 2" range gives you 50% increase in attacks while the stabbas 4+ gives you a 50% increase in hits. The "When played perfectly" is because netters already have a 2" range, as @PlasticCraic pointed out" this means that you can use the stabbas, getting your 50% increase in hits from them, but also get the 9 netters in at 2" which mean that you are only losing 11 attacks from the spears rather than 20. This makes the stabbas just better because the spears are now only granting a 23% increase in attacks (less if you take any casualties). When you have a -1 to hit on you spears are a 23% increase in attacks but stabbas are a 100% increase in hits so they are strictly better. At -2 to hit stabbas don't provide any hit increase so the 23% increase from spears is better. Again this is is irrelevant of attack buff increases as the increases are % so they just scale up. It's true at 1 attack per gobbo and 50 attacks per gobbo. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5kaven5lave Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Big question: Does anyone know / have the optimal deployment of banners, gongs and netters in a block of 60 Stabbas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uratourist Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I am making my first list and I was wondering how it looks for local! Fungoid Cave-Shaman: hand of Mork Loonboss on Mangler Squigs: -Fight Another Day - Doppelganger Cloak, -General + Battleline + Squig Herd 10x Stabbas 40x Boingrot Bounders 10x Endless Spell: Scuttletide Realm of Origin: Ulgu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitzFan Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Big game tomorrow, going to use this list which is similar to our most competitive lists out there. Allegiance: Gloomspite GitzMortal Realm: GhurLeadersSkragrott, The Loonking (220)- General- Lore of the Moonclans: The Hand of GorkFungoid Cave-Shaman (90)- Lore of the Moonclans: The Great Green SpiteWebspinner Shaman on Arachnarok Spider (280)- Artefact: Gryph-feather Charm - Lore of the Spiderfangs: Sneaky DistractionBattleline60 x Stabbas (360)- Pokin Spears & Moon Shields40 x Stabbas (260)- Pokin Spears & Moon Shields40 x Stabbas (260)- Pokin Spears & Moon ShieldsUnits5 x Sporesplatta Fanatics (120)10 x Loonsmasha Fanatics (280)Endless Spells / TerrainQuicksilver Swords (30)Scuttletide (30)Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (60)Total: 1990 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 179 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiagoma Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Is Skragrott good on a Squig list? I got the models because i think it is cool but all my army is made of Squigs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasticCraic Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Yeah I think he could work well in a Squig list. The downsides are: - You realistically have to take him as your General to get the most out of him. Which means no Command Trait (Fight Another Day) on your Mangler Boss - He does not make Squig Hoppers Battleline But on the flipside: - He is generally good and worth the points in his own right (handcannon and warscroll spell are legit) - He does make the Cave Squigs Battleline - His Command Ability synergises really nicely with the Squigalanche big batallion Specifically on that last one, you only get the Batallion benefit under Da Moon, and he gives you control over that, so he really synergises well there. So yes, I think he potentially works really well in a Squig list. What did you have in mind? FWIW I would focus on Squig Hoppers in a Squigalanche, because they do their Mortal Wounds in the Movement Phase. So you can just run over the top of your enemies and then pile back in from 6". Whereas Boingrots really need to charge to get the most out of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasticCraic Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 (edited) This would be 3 drops and a decent starting point I think. Spoiler Allegiance: Gloomspite GitzMortal Realm: UlguLeadersSkragrott, The Loonking (220)- General- Lore of the Moonclans: The Hand of GorkLoonboss on Mangler Squigs (280)- Artefact: Doppelganger Cloak Madcap Shaman (80)- Artefact: Moonface Mommet - Lore of the Moonclans: Itchy NuisanceLoonboss on Giant Cave Squig (110)- Moonclan Stabba- Artefact: Sword of Judgement Battleline12 x Squig Herd (140)12 x Squig Herd (140)40 x Stabbas (260)- Stabbas & Moon ShieldsUnits5 x Squig Hoppers (90)5 x Squig Hoppers (90)5 x Squig Hoppers (90)BehemothsMangler Squigs (240)BattalionsSquig Rider Stampede (140)Squigalanche (90)Endless Spells / TerrainScuttletide (30)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 2Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 158 You might want to either beef up the Squig Hoppers, or drop the Big Batallion and switch them out for Boingrots: Spoiler Allegiance: Gloomspite GitzMortal Realm: UlguLeadersSkragrott, The Loonking (220)- General- Lore of the Moonclans: The Hand of GorkLoonboss on Mangler Squigs (280)- Artefact: Doppelganger Cloak Madcap Shaman (80)- Artefact: Moonface Mommet - Lore of the Moonclans: Itchy NuisanceBattleline24 x Squig Herd (280)12 x Squig Herd (140)40 x Stabbas (260)- Stabbas & Moon ShieldsUnits10 x Boingrot Bounderz (200)10 x Boingrot Bounderz (200)10 x Boingrot Bounderz (200)BattalionsSquig Rider Stampede (140)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 194 Edited August 8, 2019 by PlasticCraic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiagoma Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 7 hours ago, PlasticCraic said: Yeah I think he could work well in a Squig list. The downsides are: - You realistically have to take him as your General to get the most out of him. Which means no Command Trait (Fight Another Day) on your Mangler Boss - He does not make Squig Hoppers Battleline But on the flipside: - He is generally good and worth the points in his own right (handcannon and warscroll spell are legit) - He does make the Cave Squigs Battleline - His Command Ability synergises really nicely with the Squigalanche big batallion Specifically on that last one, you only get the Batallion benefit under Da Moon, and he gives you control over that, so he really synergises well there. So yes, I think he potentially works really well in a Squig list. What did you have in mind? FWIW I would focus on Squig Hoppers in a Squigalanche, because they do their Mortal Wounds in the Movement Phase. So you can just run over the top of your enemies and then pile back in from 6". Whereas Boingrots really need to charge to get the most out of them. I dont have anything in mind to be honest 🤣 I just bought models i think are cool and i am figuring out how to use then. So far i got: Loonboss on giant cave squig 12 squig herd Skragrot Mangler squigs 4 boxes of squig hoppers 6 sneaky snufflers Globapalloza box (i intend to use those as their warscrolls or shamans proxies) Mollog's mob My local meta uses 1500 pts with 2 BL and i am looking to build and army out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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