Lord Krungharr Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Who else out there is, for some insane reason, still worshipping Malal? And what units/conversions/army lists might best represent the devotees of Malice on the tabletop? I have the old Kaleb Daark riding a black and white Galrauch as my Lord on Manticore, bunch of black and white warriors, and also some Marauders. However, there are some great 3rd party Daemons of Malice models by Knightmare Miniatures, and I'm wondering what Daemons to use them as? The big one is certainly a Daemon Prince, but what about the Hook Horrors, and the 2 insectoid ones? Beasts of Nurgle, or Fiends of Slaanesh? Or slap some Hook Horrors on the insectoids to be Skullcrushers? Or just have them be Furies (putting wings on the Hook Horrors) and Spawn? Should we be using non-competitive lists because we love hating it? Should we be using hardcore netlists and just paint them black and white? Is it actually more appropriate to NOT use Chaos?!?! 40k is easier, Sons of Malice can be Renegade Astartes and I use all HQs to be the Doomed Ones plus Cultists and Bikers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrocknerTheBear Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Currently building a Malal themed daemons of chaos undivided army using the blades of khorne rules and warscrolls but with heavily converted minis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAR Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Doing mine with regular chaos minis with a black & white paint job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Krungharr Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 Ahhhh, yes, all the axes could be Dreadaxes! I'm gonna have to do a CAD for that and print a bunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Krungharr Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 A cool themed narrative mission could be an all hero list fighting whoever, and after all the heroes die, every enemy unit suffers 11 mortal wounds, and if any enemy survives they win, if not, Malal wins! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenshin620 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Lord Krungharr said: Is it actually more appropriate to NOT use Chaos?!?! Could be interesting to have Order themed armies that are secretly being controlled by Malal Cults. Even perhaps SCE that are fooled by thinking they're getting instructions by Sigmar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Snake Eyes Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Why not kitbash a mix of stormcast and slaves to darkness bits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frowny Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) I too have thought about this. For the minor demons / hooked horrors, I was thinking crypt flayers with tzaangor heads and genestealer arms like. I'd run them as demonettes or bloodletters I think. Just so bad at painting white that I've been hesitant to try it Edited December 21, 2018 by Frowny More Info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kharneth Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 What is Malal's domain anyway? I never understood how the 4 Chaos Gods were incomplete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Snake Eyes Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Kharneth said: What is Malal's domain anyway? I never understood how the 4 Chaos Gods were incomplete. Malal has been swept under the rug and rewritten so many times i'm not sure what the current "official" description is, but he's essentially the antithesis or pinnacle of chaos, he represents chaos' inevitable end as it turns in on itself in self destruction. The chaos gods are a fire given life by the universe and malal is the flame sputtering out in a sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Kharneth said: What is Malal's domain anyway? I never understood how the 4 Chaos Gods were incomplete. Well, without the horned rat, who wouldn’t be incomplete?😂 edit: also wasn’t the chaos god Malal a 40k thing? thought he was some sort of a god written by fans for the 40k universe. didnt know that he also existed in the fantasy now known as the age of the horned rat (definitely not Sigmar). but hey love the idea of an existing stormcast army worshipping such a god who seeks to destroy all chaos deity’s. Edited December 21, 2018 by Skreech Verminking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kharneth Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 28 minutes ago, Skreech Verminking said: Well, without the horned rat, who wouldn’t be incomplete?😂 edit: also wasn’t the chaos god Malal a 40k thing? thought he was some sort of a god written by fans for the 40k universe. didnt know that he also existed in the fantasy now known as the age of the horned rat (definitely not Sigmar). but hey love the idea of an existing stormcast army worshipping such a god who seeks to destroy all chaos deity’s. I mean, frankly Skaven is only a part of Chaos due to a technicality. I know nothing about Malal, but I tend to perceive Chaos as identical in 40k and fantasy. To me there aren't two Chaos pantheons. 41 minutes ago, Lucky Snake Eyes said: Malal has been swept under the rug and rewritten so many times i'm not sure what the current "official" description is, but he's essentially the antithesis or pinnacle of chaos, he represents chaos' inevitable end as it turns in on itself in self destruction. The chaos gods are a fire given life by the universe and malal is the flame sputtering out in a sense. Hm, okay. But, um, what is the source of Malal's power? Like, Khorne feeds on anger, hatred, and violence. Slaanesh on greed, desire, and craving. Nurgle on fear, sickness, and death. And Tzeentch on delusion, change, and magic. Is Malal just pure anarchy or pure madness? Chaos without aim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Kharneth said: I mean, frankly Skaven is only a part of Chaos due to a technicality. Well that of course is the perspective of every not skaven player on the world. truth be told the great horned rat is the only true chaos deity in aos. anything else you might have heard of, are lies. Yes-yes lies, all things lie to you-you, truth can only be found by joining the pantheon of our great god the horned rat. Edited December 21, 2018 by Skreech Verminking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Snake Eyes Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 28 minutes ago, Kharneth said: I know nothing about Malal, but I tend to perceive Chaos as identical in 40k and fantasy. To me there aren't two Chaos pantheons. Hm, okay. But, um, what is the source of Malal's power? Like, Khorne feeds on anger, hatred, and violence. Slaanesh on greed, desire, and craving. Nurgle on fear, sickness, and death. And Tzeentch on delusion, change, and magic. Is Malal just pure anarchy or pure madness? Chaos without aim? Malal more or less feeds off of pure chaos itself, as long as chaos exists so does malal. He exists as the manifestation of chaos' self destructive nature, think about it, the end goal of chaos is the ruination of all, but since living beings are the source of chaos it's a self destructive goal. Malal represents and feeds off of chaos' march to it's own destruction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kharneth Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Lucky Snake Eyes said: Malal more or less feeds off of pure chaos itself, as long as chaos exists so does malal. He exists as the manifestation of chaos' self destructive nature, think about it, the end goal of chaos is the ruination of all, but since living beings are the source of chaos it's a self destructive goal. Malal represents and feeds off of chaos' march to it's own destruction. Yeah it makes sense, he's kinda meta. 2 hours ago, Skreech Verminking said: Well that of course is the perspective of every not skaven player on the world. truth be told the great horned rat is the only true chaos deity in aos. anything else you might have heard of, are lies. Yes-yes lies, all things lie to you-you, truth can only be found by joining the pantheon of our great god the horned rat. Hahaha yeah, I hear you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrocknerTheBear Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 I've almost finished the daemon prince of malal. All the lesser daemons will be bloodletters with heads changed slightly to match. Mounting bloodletters on blind dracolines for cavalry. And the greater daemon is based on the elemental of fire from forgeworld. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frowny Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Malice is the god of self loathing. The khorne worshippers last nagging shred of a soul hating itself for every additional skull. The pathetic shrivelled idea inside that slaaneshi pleasure cultist that maybe visceral satisfaction as the only end is a terrible and wretched goal. The idea is solid.... Never really made much sense as an embodieid God though.. Holy cow is that beautiful. Tzaangor body? Where did you get the head and shield? That is a chaos Lord? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrocknerTheBear Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 It's originally be'lakor with his head adapted and his eyes removed so he's got no facial features. The shield is the centre of a burning chariot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kharneth Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 On 12/23/2018 at 4:12 AM, BrocknerTheBear said: I've almost finished the daemon prince of malal. All the lesser daemons will be bloodletters with heads changed slightly to match. Mounting bloodletters on blind dracolines for cavalry. And the greater daemon is based on the elemental of fire from forgeworld. That's awesome! I'd recognize Be'Lakor anywhere, haha. I enjoy the Spartan aesthetic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yokai Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 I know it's not AoS, but here you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frowny Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Can you please keep posting these? I have so many ideas about a slaves to darkness malal themed army but can't seem to set myself in a single direction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrocknerTheBear Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Just started working on the "blood crushers" the dracoline will be blind too like the other daemons. They look like giant flesh hounds so they fit better then the metal rhinos and I can use them under stormcast rules too to gain benefits against chaos if need be for narrative gaming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frowny Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 That also looks lovely. The rider is a bloodletters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleb Daark Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 On 12/21/2018 at 5:00 PM, Kharneth said: What is Malal's domain anyway? I never understood how the 4 Chaos Gods were incomplete. On 12/21/2018 at 8:35 PM, Lucky Snake Eyes said: Malal has been swept under the rug and rewritten so many times i'm not sure what the current "official" description is, but he's essentially the antithesis or pinnacle of chaos, he represents chaos' inevitable end as it turns in on itself in self destruction. The chaos gods are a fire given life by the universe and malal is the flame sputtering out in a sense. so.... Malal as a concept first appeared in the Citadel compendium back in 86 or 87. It was part of a comic strip which appeared therin called kaleb Daark. Malal in essence was the chaos god's chaos god - and his champion described as "a man of chaos but not of chaos". The first battle Kaleb Daark faced was at Praag fighting against the champions of khorne , the chaos brothers Jake and Hellwood - a parody of the blues brothers. Malal and Kaleb daark didn't make it any further, not into fantasy and not into 40k as he wasn't fully GW's copyright, but the property of Wagner and Grant who wrote the script - an excellent 2000AD script writing duo. so as much as we really want him to be part of the fluff he really wasn't past the citadel jornal and compendiums and some references in wfrp and some second edition era lit. I've still got the model of Kaleb daark mounted and on foot when he came out. https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Malal Awesome work though guys and I love seeing malal stuff keep cropping up - for such a short run he really captured the imagination. @BrocknerTheBear - the shield on the prince conversion - it's awesome, where did you get it from? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekrund Oath Splitters Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 49 minutes ago, Kaleb Daark said: so.... Malal as a concept first appeared in the Citadel compendium back in 86 or 87. It was part of a comic strip which appeared therin called kaleb Daark. Malal in essence was the chaos god's chaos god - and his champion described as "a man of chaos but not of chaos". The first battle Kaleb Daark faced was at Praag fighting against the champions of khorne , the chaos brothers Jake and Hellwood - a parody of the blues brothers. Malal and Kaleb daark didn't make it any further, not into fantasy and not into 40k as he wasn't fully GW's copyright, but the property of Wagner and Grant who wrote the script - an excellent 2000AD script writing duo. so as much as we really want him to be part of the fluff he really wasn't past the citadel jornal and compendiums and some references in wfrp and some second edition era lit. I've still got the model of Kaleb daark mounted and on foot when he came out. https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Malal Awesome work though guys and I love seeing malal stuff keep cropping up - for such a short run he really captured the imagination. @BrocknerTheBear - the shield on the prince conversion - it's awesome, where did you get it from? In one of the recent CSM codexes there is a warband called the Sons of Malice who actively fight other chaos warbands. Its a small nod towards Malal who i have always found interesting but i dont think he has ever been mentioned anywhere in Fantasy or having a warband that acts in his ways towards the other chaos forces. But in AoS you can make up your own fluff, so if your army followers this "mysterious" god, then why the hell not. The realms are big enough to support your own fantasy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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