GeneralZero Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 What do you guys think about this box? I like those dark knights but I have no clue about a StD/everchosen army atm. So, I need help to decide... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenshin620 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Well it is Slaves to Darkness, they'll always be able to go 5 different ways at the very least or use the warriors as conversion fodder for khorne and nurgle. Could also be useful assuming Slaves gets updated alongside Darkoath. For those who haven't seen the leak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Snake Eyes Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Damn, I had just gotten my warshrine last month. I still need a manticore as well and the rest would have been icing, but now i own so many warriors and already have a warshrine i can't really justify to myself buying the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent of Chaos Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 whats actually in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Snake Eyes Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Agent of Chaos said: whats actually in it? looks like a manticore kit, chariot kit, warshrine, some mix of warriors and chosen, and 10 cav but i can't tell if it's knights or marauder horsemen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 Chaos warshrine and manticore are GW exclusive. That make me think that this box is probably one (if not THE) most interesting battleforce of the 10 this year. I'm really tempted. How do they perform in game? Has any one tried the manticore? the warshrine? I have already an old (metal) winged daemon prince. This box + the prince should be a nice start? What are your impressions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xasz Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 On 11/5/2018 at 2:52 AM, Agent of Chaos said: whats actually in it? Lord on Manticore, Shrine, 16 Warriors, 10 Knights and 1 Chariot sounds about right. I'm really tempted to get this one as well. Seem like good value and covers stuff that is not in the SC box. As a side note, a lot of my enthusiasm comes from me expecting a merge of Everchosen + StD (markable) and Darkoath becoming their own thing (Probably not markable and riding the low-corruption/chaosy wave of Barbarians or total war Norsca, which is personally not my thing but would be pretty cool regardless. Would give them some distance to the rest.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Snake Eyes Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 @GeneralZero The manticore is the only thing i don't have, the warshrine performs pretty well for me both as a support unit and the centrepiece of a godswrath warband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 Thx . I'll probably buy this one battleforce as it pleases to me and it is super versatile (used with all 4 chaos gods)....and supeb value for money! @Lucky Snake Eyes what kind of list do you use with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Snake Eyes Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 @GeneralZero For 2000pt games I usually run a godsworn warband (let's a unit get a free pile in and attack if they're within 3" of an enemy hero or monster) General: Daemon prince w/ axe, mark of the all favored, wings exalted hero of nurgle exalted hero of tzeench lord of chaos (slaanesh) on daemonic mount lord of chaos (khorne) on foot sorcerer lord (tzeench) marauder horsemen (khorne) w/javelines X10 marauders (khorne) w/flails X10 Knights (slaanesh) X5 warriors (nurgle) w/dual weapons X15 warriors (tzeench) w/shields and weapon X10 Warshrine (tzeench) gorebeast chariot (slaanesh) w/great weapon Luckily it's easy to use an aspiring champion from warriors as exalted heroes, and it's easy to kitbash mounted lords using knights. You could probably buy a slaves to darkness starter box to fill out the last few warriors, get a sorcerer and an extra chariot so that you have more options and enough battleline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 @Lucky Snake Eyes Sounds good to me. I'll have plenty of time to complete this war band. Super versatile. I just checked my old metal chaos daemon prince: winged+sword. Is the sword worse than the axe (rend -1 vs rend -2) ? Because changing the sword to an axe is really a pain on a metal mini... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Snake Eyes Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 @GeneralZero Personally i prefer the axe, if the daemon prince has the khorne keyword then it get's +1 to hit so it balances out, and since mark of the all favored gives it all 4 keywords the consensus seems to be that it gets all 4 benefits. But a sword that hits on 2+ could also be really nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 I hope that the wrath and rapture box will compliment this one for fun chaos forces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Snake Eyes Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 52 minutes ago, GeneralZero said: I hope that the wrath and rapture box will compliment this one for fun chaos forces From what we've been shown it's a bunch of daemons. Daemonettes, bloodletters, bloodhounds, fiends, keeper of secrets and a bloodthirster i believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 yeah I know but I'm thinking about maybe a nice hero or one/two units of daemons to give my force a tasty touch of chaos gods. Those chaos list won't be super competitive but fun to play. I already have super strong forces of death/NH/SCE. (ful range) And you know what, after thinking and thinking, my take is that this battleforce of SoD is probably the best one out of the 4 this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xasz Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Lucky Snake Eyes said: From what we've been shown it's a bunch of daemons. Daemonettes, bloodletters, bloodhounds, fiends, keeper of secrets and a bloodthirster i believe. It's rather Karanak and a Herald with harp, greater daemons are extremely unlikely in a box-set of any kind. What is expected solely on the information given from GW (video and artworks): Khorne -> 10 Bloodletters, 5 Hounds, 3 Bloodcrushers, Karanak Slaanesh -> 10 Daemonettes, 5 Seekers, 3 Fiends, new Herald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Snake Eyes Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 @Xasz Thanks for clarifying, In the brief video i thought it might have been a keeper, since the GW keeper is trash I wouldn't be surprised if it got a new model to look more like the FW model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Lucky Snake Eyes said: anks for clarifying, In the brief video i thought it might have been a keeper, since the GW keeper is trash I wouldn't be surprised if it got a new model to look more like the FW model. Indeed but as a major chaos god, it is a big box. It won't be in bundle box. Slanesh is reworked. We will probably see several new boxes, one is the bundle wrath and rapture. Then separate new fiends, heralds etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 I've read some people that has been said "store exclusive " for the battleforce". That'd be really disapointing. They did sell it by the resellers in the previous years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 I'm thinking about the content of the box, unit by unit. What do you think guys, about each one? - warriors - knights - both versions of chariot? - manticore? Also, what is best: wizard or lord on the manticore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Snake Eyes Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 6 hours ago, GeneralZero said: I'm thinking about the content of the box, unit by unit. What do you think guys, about each one? - warriors - knights - both versions of chariot? - manticore? Also, what is best: wizard or lord on the manticore? Warriors are wonderful! I find them to be a very cost efficient mirror to liberators. I like to run shield with mark of tzeench for extra tanking or two weapons with nurgle for rerolling 1s for hits and wound. Also keep in mind that the aspiring champions are the same model as exalted heroes so there's some options for making heroes out of some of those warriors. Knights aren't that great as a hammer but are sturdy and can swamp down a battleline or reinforce a flank. Go with gorebeast chariot. always go gorebeast. I like slaanesh gorebeasts as rerolling 1s on charges makes it easier to get off it's charge based abilities. It's a little squishy but for 100pts can get some decent work done. The warshrine is a must have as it can turn reroll 1s into reroll fails and that 6+ wound negation has saved me some pain. I don't personally own a manticore (but it sure as ****** is on the christmas list) it seems the lord is better than the sorcerer due to mark of the all favoured turning it into a killing machine. Personally I'd say if you want a sorcerer then run a sorcerer on foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 @Lucky Snake Eyesthank you. In fact, if I read you correctly, For a 2000points list, 2 battleforce boxes is almost the full list. But I dunno if I'll keep the 2nd Shrine. Do you think that it is better to sell the warshrine to get some other options? What do you think to compliment this army (lets say 2 baxes with only one shrine)? I'll put then 2 lords on manticore and all the battlelines. - Prince daemon? - varanguaards? - a big chaos miniature( Lord of change, magotkin, khorne big daemon....) - in a future, I'll take the Archaon but ....later (love that miniature) - Is there some ranged option? (like a gorgon or something else....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Snake Eyes Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 42 minutes ago, GeneralZero said: @Lucky Snake Eyesthank you. In fact, if I read you correctly, For a 2000points list, 2 battleforce boxes is almost the full list. But I dunno if I'll keep the 2nd Shrine. Do you think that it is better to sell the warshrine to get some other options? What do you think to compliment this army (lets say 2 baxes with only one shrine)? I'll put then 2 lords on manticore and all the battlelines. - Prince daemon? - varanguaards? - a big chaos miniature( Lord of change, magotkin, khorne big daemon....) - in a future, I'll take the Archaon but ....later (love that miniature) - Is there some ranged option? (like a gorgon or something else....) Marauder horsemen are our only ranged option and are pretty good at killing fodder units like skeletons. Never used varanguard but daemon princes can be nasty, especially with the mark of the all favoured so that they become casters and killing achines. The greater daemons don't really synergize well and eat up ally points. Archaon can't join Slaves to darkness as he doesn't have the keyword and is too expensive to be taken as an ally (it makes no sense i know but that's gw logic for you) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 What's about the mamuth? I'd love to put a mumak in place of the missing mamuth. It'd be a superb center piece. It has the keyword and is a behemot, not too expensive either. Has someone tried it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Snake Eyes Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 16 minutes ago, GeneralZero said: What's about the mamuth? I'd love to put a mumak in place of the missing mamuth. It'd be a superb center piece. It has the keyword and is a behemot, not too expensive either. Has someone tried it? I haven't tried it myself but I've fought it, killed it pretty easy with some marauder horsemen, got lucky with some javelines paired with the mammoths low save and a well rolled charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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