AaronWilson Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Double Dragonhost has already done well at events like BOBO in the U.K, it's a tried and tested list so you'll be fine. Doppelganger cloak is probably one of the most abusable items in the game right now so it sits well on a dragonlord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crono Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 Did okay with the list for my 4th-8th games ever. Managed to go 2 Major Wins ,1 Minor Win and 2 Major losses (learning experiences ;)). There were also schematics of which I only achieved 3 out of 5, which was a bit of a pain in the ass. This saw me end up 36th of 72, right in the middle of the pack, however if i'd completed them and didn't have to borrow hodge podge pieces of army I would have jumped up to around 12th. Onwards for next time! Few things i'm drafting at the moment which I really like: Phoenix Temple -Annointed on Flamespyre Phoenix, Doppelganger Cloak, Strategic Genius -Annointed on Frostheart Phoenix -Annointed on Frostheart Phoenix -Archmage (Ally) -Archmage (Ally) -Archmage (Ally) -30 Phoenix Guard -10 Phoenix Guard -10 Phoenix Guard -Cogs -Lifeswarm The synergies are thus: Phoenix's gain armour from from spell casters. The three spellcasters can buff the phoenix's save from 5+ to 2+. Mystic ward is actually useful (reroll 1s to save) at this point, the 6+ ward save spell bubble for the entire army adds another layer of armour and arcane bolt is nifty in a tough spot. Emerald Lifeswarm can resurrect D3 phoenix guard and cogs can help deliver them plus cast extra spells. Hooray. Question for the massess - would balewind vortex be better? Another list i'm keen to try in a similar vein: Eldritch Council Drakeseer - Strategic Genius Dragonlord with Lance and Shield - Doppelganger Cloak (Ally) Loremaster Archmage 30 Swordmasters 30 Swordmasters 10 Swordmasters Emerald Lifeswarm Cogs Finally, a few pictures from the weekend: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frowny Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 I was thinking something like Allegiance: Order Archmage on steed Dragonlord w/ quicksilver potion Dragon Noble with banner 5x Reavers 5xReavers 5x Reavers 10x Dragon Blades 10x Dragon blades 1510 points. Would this be at all viable as a cavalry themed army? Plan would be to shoot screens and screen myself turn 1-2 with the reavers, and then go for the kill with a massed cavalry charge the 2nd turn (pop both horns for +2 attacks, +1CP for reroll hits. for 40 lance attacks with each dragon blade units, hopefully crushing a flank. 3 questions: 1) None of the free cities allow for both reavers and dragon-blades right? The high-elves are permanently split up when it comes to free cities? 2) Is this at all viable? 3) Can you use faction specific battalions in a grand alliance: order army? I was thinking the dragonhost might be interesting in this kind of army. It would speed up the list by a whole turn, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisher KIng Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 I know they are over priced but Flamespyre Phoenix's seem great especially in Sypreheart. I'm not typically one for Elves but I love the idea of a monster heavy list and Phoenix temple and especially OD seem to do this very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisher KIng Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 a question about the Spyreheart Warhost, does an Anointed on a Phoenix fill both the Anointed and one of the Phoenix requirements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crono Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 27 minutes ago, Fisher KIng said: I know they are over priced but Flamespyre Phoenix's seem great especially in Sypreheart. I'm not typically one for Elves but I love the idea of a monster heavy list and Phoenix temple and especially OD seem to do this very well. Yeah, they are, the frosty seems better in almost every way - there is chris tomlins variant that runs 3 frosties and aventis with the comet - that'll be next on the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crono Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 23 minutes ago, Fisher KIng said: a question about the Spyreheart Warhost, does an Anointed on a Phoenix fill both the Anointed and one of the Phoenix requirements? I don't believe so. You need: -1 Annointed -2 units of PG -2 of flamebois and/or frostybois, neither with riders (stupid) I dont think it is #worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronWilson Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Aren't allies only 1 in every 4 units? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiagoma Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 3 hours ago, AaronWIlson said: Aren't allies only 1 in every 4 units? You are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crono Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 Played the Phoenix Temple last night. Eeeked a win against Sylvaneth - Flame Phoenix was terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledha Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 11 hours ago, AaronWIlson said: Aren't allies only 1 in every 4 units? only in open play. In matched play, it's 20% of your army (200 pts on a 1000 pts game, 400 in a 2000 pts game) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshiya Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 2 hours ago, ledha said: only in open play. In matched play, it's 20% of your army (200 pts on a 1000 pts game, 400 in a 2000 pts game) Its 20% AND one in four. GW doubled the restrictions for no apparent reason making allies incredibly hard to fit into elite armies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronWilson Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 7 hours ago, ledha said: only in open play. In matched play, it's 20% of your army (200 pts on a 1000 pts game, 400 in a 2000 pts game) I believe it's both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crono Posted October 5, 2018 Author Share Posted October 5, 2018 -double post- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crono Posted October 5, 2018 Author Share Posted October 5, 2018 It's both. Any lists out there guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernoodist Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Just had a excellent game with Order Elves Vs Nurgle, at the Suthernland Shire Gamers club ( Where MOAB is hosted every year) He had Rotigus, Great Unclean one, 3 Plague Drones, Lord of Blights, Blightlord, 30 Plaguebearers , 10 Plaguebearers ,10 Plaguebearers , Mounted Sorceror I Had Frostheart Phoenix(Anointed) , 20 Phoenix Guard, 20 Swordmasters, 20 Glade Guard, 20 Glade Guard, 5 Reavers, 5 Reavers, Knight Azyros, Waywatcher and Spellsinger I went second and had a brutal round of shooting, Rotigus got wasted as a got a double turn for turn 2 and by the end of that turn most of the 30 Plaguebearers were gone and drone were taking a beating, we called it at the end of turn 2 as was getting late and the fun was a bit one sided for me Frostheart and Phoenix guard is a nice combo and 40 Arcane Bodkins will deal with most behemoths in 1 turn, Reavers are great to burn objectives and harass at range, Swordmasters just kill stuff you point them at but cant take a hard beating like the Phoenix Guard can , Azyros is great as gives the 10"bubble around him you can re-roll 1's for targeting enemies and drops his Mortal wound nuke once per game that sucks to be chaos ( i had 3 units in range and did 3,5,6 mortal wounds) Ive just gotten back into Sigmar (played WHFB for ever) and the rules seem to maturing well but they need to do some more work on armies, you can tell they dont really put an effort into the fluff as IMO i think its pretty crappy setting compared to the depth of the old Warhammer, maybe the drugs were better back then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Crono Posted October 6, 2018 Author Share Posted October 6, 2018 Nice mate! Glad mixed is working for you! Played in a tournament with Chris Tomlins Phoenix Temple today and came in 2nd, with a very narrow 1140-1040 loss to the eventual winner (Chaos Dwarves). Phoenix temple is a very noob friendly list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crono Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 Played a game with Eldrich Council Last night: -Drakeseer, Master of Defence -Archmage -Loremaster -Dragonlord (Ally) 30 Swordmasters 20 Swordmasters 10 Swordmasters 10 Swordmasters Cogs List has legs, but it also feels like a bad version of phoenix temple with even less dynamism/utility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiagoma Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 That is a lot of Swordmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernoodist Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Had Another great Game with Order Elves vs Slaves to Darkness , my list as follows Frostheart Phoenix(Anointed) 20 Phoenix Guard 20 Swordmasters 20 Glade Guard 20 Glade Guard 5 Reavers 5 Reavers Knight Azyros Waywatcher Spellsinger I cant recall his full army but he had a Lord with a Lord on a Manticore, Warshrine , Deamon Prince , 2 Sorcerers (1 mounted) and about 8 units of Warriors in small units of 5 Was one of the best games i have played to date , He had a 5+ ward bubble from the mounted Sorcerer and then 6+ from Warshire and a spell to fling the Warriors in 9"range of me , some key highlights are Slaying his Lord on the Manticore turn 1 with all my shooting ( yay for Arcane Bodkins) and the Phoenix Guard Holding the central objective the entire game (damn they are tough!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bernoodist Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Im thinking of dropping a unit of Glade Guard and using a unit of Spireguard , if anyone has had any good experiences with Spireguard please let me know as they would be less squishy and hold objectives a bit more reliably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crono Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Whilst my Phoenix guard are getting the painted treatment, i'm looking at the following two lists Order Draconis Dragonlord #1 (General) (Battallion) -Lance and Horn -Sword of Judgement (6+ on hits cause D6 MW to heroes and monsters) -Legendary Fighter Note: This guy can have up to 7 attacks with his lance, hitting on 3's with rerolls, wounding on 2s doing 3 dmg each!) Dragonlord #2 (Battallion) -Lance and Horn -Doppelganger Dragonlord #3 -Lance and Horn -Dimensional Blade Archmage (Khaleesi) on steed. 4x5 Dragon Princes 2x Dragonhost Battallion 1940pts I'm also looking at this hybrid list Dragonlord, Lance and Horn, Doppelganger, Strategic Genius Annointed on Frostheart Phoenix Archmage on Steed Battlemage with Lifesurge 20 Glade Guard 2x5 Reavers 30 Phoenix Guard 2x5 Dragon Blades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernoodist Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Had a great game vs the new Beasts of Chaos last night , my list as follows Allegiance: Order - Mortal Realm: UlguLEADERSArchmage - SteedSkywarden - Swifthawk PennantKnight-Azyros Anointed Of Asuryan On Frostheart Phoenix - General - Command Trait : Master of Defense - Artefact : Doppelganger CloakUNITS20 x Swordmasters 20 x Spireguard 5 x Reavers 5 x Reavers 20 x Phoenix Guard 20 x Glade Guard He had at least 5 units of Minotaurs ( 2x6, 3, 3 ,3 ) , a few doom bulls , Cygor and Ghorgon, large unit of Unghors and a Bray shaman My Swordmasters did a lot of damage but got eaten by Minotaurs , the Spireguard played resonably well for shooting and didnt end up making it to melee and the Phoenix Temple as always shone like a star ( though was left will less than 8 PG after round 4 ), was a solid Victory 9/3 my way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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