Ivo Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Calebexnihilo said: Nice!!!! Well done! That base on the Dread is awesome! How much does that base weigh? lol Quite a bit 😂 about double the size of a normal dread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etlm1987 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) Does Gotrek have any place in a seraphon list? Of all the armies I can see him viable in it would be seraphon- it provides an unbreakable hammer that helps us with a lot of scenarios such as 3 places of power or any scenario where we need a hammer to move a block off an objective. Obviously we are one of the fastest armies and the best at stealing objectives; however, we struggle with having a hammer so that when 30 daughters or grimghasts take an objective, we don't have a great solution to moving them (outside of rippers with toad rage). Provided we take cogs in the list could gotrek work as a nigh-unkillable hammer that is better than any of our hammer options. I am also thinking about a handful of scenarios he helps with: shifting objectives, 3 places of power. Does he work in the scenarios where we need a hero to score or a hammer to remove massive threats? I remember a seraphon list with a celestant prime did very well in LVO last year; so now we have Gotrek as a better Celestent Prime. Obviously the downsides are apparent: it's 520 points (yikes) and it has a 4 inch move. I am thinking if we take cogs and save a command point - Gotrek can still reasonably get into combat by turn 2. With the downsides is he viable? My first instinct is no; however, I think it may be worth playtesting him in a summoning heavy list and perhaps he could actually be a viable ally option. Thoughts??  Edited September 5, 2019 by etlm1987 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chord Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 The carnosaur always helps me whittle down the hordes with its roar, if I can roll higher d3 models run. Granted its not a lot but every bit helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calebexnihilo Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Slann EoTG with Etheral Amulet GOTREK!!!!!! 3x10 Skinks 3 Razordons Skink Handlers Bastiladon Steggy Thunderquake 1990!! Not a lot of bodies and will struggle due to speed.... but I like it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) Hey guys. I'd like to prepare a double tournament coming soon at 2x1000 points. My friend wants to play Seraphon. I got some SCE, some free guild, lots of aelves, bretonnia etc. I'm wondering what would be the best synergy to have outside of Seraphon, so we could complement each other ? I know we'll be facing some Khorne, some Nurgle, so I'd like to find a good synergy to root out evil, as the ancient ones would like it to be ! Â Edited September 5, 2019 by Maturin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etlm1987 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 On 6/15/2019 at 6:30 PM, SleeperAgent said: 30 minutes ago, Maturin said: Hey guys. I'd like to prepare a double tournament coming soon at 2x1000 points. My friend wants to play Seraphon. I got some SCE, some free guild, lots of aelves, bretonnia etc. I'm wondering what would be the best synergy to have outside of Seraphon, so we could complement each other ? I know we'll be facing some Khorne, some Nurgle, so I'd like to find a good synergy to root out evil, as the ancient ones would like it to be !  Free Guild - Free guild + Seraphon is a lethal combination- Free guild complements everything you are trying to do- you have a large block that shoots very well and can hold objectives while with skinks and really good summoning at 1k - you can teleport out and really pressure your opponent's objectives- I know a freeguild and Seraphon list went 3-0 at Nova doubles- it was absolutely brutal. Stormcast is always interesting but I think you get better shooting and more bodies with freeguild  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 26 minutes ago, etlm1987 said: I know a freeguild and Seraphon list went 3-0 at Nova doubles- it was absolutely brutal Cheers for your input mate. Are those list somewhere on the net ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etlm1987 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Maturin said: Cheers for your input mate. Are those list somewhere on the net ? Don't see anything posted yet and guessing won't be for a little bit considering the event is less then a week old- but if you have the BCP app I know you can dig up the NOVA AOS Doubles lists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 20 minutes ago, etlm1987 said: Â BCP app. What's that ? Sorry I'm not from the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etlm1987 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Best Coast Pairings App! I have it downloaded from itunes. I think you may need to subscribe to get archive lists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, etlm1987 said: Best Coast Pairings App! I have it downloaded from itunes. I think you may need to subscribe to get archive lists Ok thanks, found it, but yeah, I have to subscribe to get those lists :v. I spent enough on Warhammer already ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calebexnihilo Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 49 minutes ago, Maturin said: Cheers for your input mate. Are those list somewhere on the net ? This guy has some great lists written out: http://www.lustria-online.com/threads/matched-play-list-ghb2019.23300/page-4#post-282455 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etlm1987 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 If I recall I think it was a seraphon summoning list with 6 rippers and a steggy using a flame thrower. Teleporting both the steggy and the rippers- skink alpha moving the rippers for a manageable charge. I believe the freeguild was essentially a gunline and general on griffon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Calebexnihilo said: This guy has some great lists written out: http://www.lustria-online.com/threads/matched-play-list-ghb2019.23300/page-4#post-282455 Interestung thanks, I don't know why I didn't think of Lustria . I loved their tacticas for WFB v8! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, etlm1987 said: If I recall I think it was a seraphon summoning list with 6 rippers and a steggy using a flame thrower. Teleporting both the steggy and the rippers- skink alpha moving the rippers for a manageable charge. I believe the freeguild was essentially a gunline and general on griffon Ok, I'll try to find about that and figure how everything synergize together. Cheers guys! Have you ever faced a SCE Skyborne Slayers? Edited September 5, 2019 by Maturin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etlm1987 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Most of the SCE lists were anvils of hammerheld- I don't think I saw a skyborne slayers list ( I could be wrong) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, etlm1987 said: Most of the SCE lists were anvils of hammerheld- I don't think I saw a skyborne slayers list ( I could be wrong) It's like a ShadowStrike, with a bit less potent units (and too much battlelines ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Ben Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 21 hours ago, Maturin said: Hey guys. I'd like to prepare a double tournament coming soon at 2x1000 points. My friend wants to play Seraphon. I got some SCE, some free guild, lots of aelves, bretonnia etc. I'm wondering what would be the best synergy to have outside of Seraphon, so we could complement each other ? I know we'll be facing some Khorne, some Nurgle, so I'd like to find a good synergy to root out evil, as the ancient ones would like it to be !  If you've got a phoenix in your elves and plan to have the slann actually casting spells, you can buff that phoenix save for a great mobile anvil. Plus durable phoenix guard to hold objectives and protect the slann. Or if you have some order draconis and they have rippers then you could go with a shadowstrike battalion seraphon list and make a great alpha strike list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Dr Ben said: If you've got a phoenix in your elves and plan to have the slann actually casting spells, you can buff that phoenix save for a great mobile anvil. Plus durable phoenix guard to hold objectives and protect the slann. Or if you have some order draconis and they have rippers then you could go with a shadowstrike battalion seraphon list and make a great alpha strike list. Hey thanks for the idea, I've never thought about Draconis, and with an archmage ally they're perfect for a thousand points! They're a one trick pony though, once per game and tadaaaaa. Phoenix Temple is neat if durability is needed. I played against a friends ShadowStrike host today, I barely managed to win, it's very good batallion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etlm1987 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 So I know there has been a lot of theory-crafting but I have played Gotrek in Seraphon and he is the real deal. It may be the best home for him because we do lack a true hammer. I've gone 5-0 in practice games against 3 keeper slaanesh 4 bloodthirster list Daughters of Khaine full hagnar Tzeentch Gitz I think what ppl often forget is that since we can summon boatloads of skinks, he himself is a deathstar which allows us to move our slaan around the board to summon and steal objectives in addition to our astrolith bearer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calebexnihilo Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Agree. I've only played one practice game so far with Gotrek... And he performed wonderfully! I played vs IDK. Gotrek held middle objective (along with some Skinks etc) and killed a full unit of 6 eels, King, and Aspect. Only took 1 wound. He is by far Seraphon's best option for a scary hero unit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilhelm Stürmer Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 OK, I'm sold. I'm getting Gotrek! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aktanolt Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Could you both tell us about the lists he comes with ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calebexnihilo Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 5 hours ago, aktanolt said: Could you both tell us about the lists he comes with ? He fits decently well in both of our good battalions. Shadowstrike: Gotrek, Slann, EoTG, StarPriest, Astrolith, 3x10 Skinks, 6 rippers, purple sun (or cogs... Basically 80 pts left over for spells, an extra priest (to heal Gotrek) or another unit of Skinks) Thunderquake: Gotrek, Slann, EoTG, 3x10 Skinks, 3 Razordons, 3 skink handlers, Bastiladon, Stegadon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platypus Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Calebexnihilo said: an extra priest (to heal Gotrek) What do you mean by this? Skink Priests and Starpriests can’t heal anything. What am I missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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