Aelfric Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 8 hours ago, Gwill_of_the_Woods said: I'm starting to build up a Deepkin army, so a Waywatcher will be welcome. Me too and my 20 Eternal Guard are welcome to join in as objective holders - same price as 10 Namarti Thralls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aezeal Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 8 hours ago, Gwill_of_the_Woods said: @Seadee- Caravan of the Golden Stag is an awesome name for a Wanderers army! I've called mine "Hunter's Moon". I think that the War/Shadow Dancers could have been a really amazing combat unit for us. My Wanderers are taking solace back at the forest for a while, except for maybe some use as allies. I genuinely can't use them well enough to actually win a match. I was having some luck with the GHB2017 realm-wanderers set-up, but now in GHB2018/V2 I don't stand a chance. I feel like I'm just playing to see how little I lose by, or how long I can last. I'm starting to build up a Deepkin army, so a Waywatcher will be welcome. I can see this.. I'm honestly not even gonna try till I'm getting bored with sylvaneth.. and considering the limited time I have to play that won't be soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreal Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 See i dont see this, i dont think we are top tier competitive, but i dont see us as a auto loose faction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aezeal Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 56 minutes ago, adreal said: See i dont see this, i dont think we are top tier competitive, but i dont see us as a auto loose faction. Auto loose... not in a game with dice... if me and my opponents would rolls the same as my last game I can probably win with wanderers even with a severe points disadvantage. I'm just thinking that the disadvantage is very severe. With average dice I think most opponents with "aos armies"(meaning not other legacy armies and barely supported ones but ones with actually books etc) will have to make very big mistakes for us to win even if we play flawless. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreal Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Granted i havnt played much aos, but i think we are in a okay position if played to our strengths, but yeah, we are not overly competitive. Its a shame, it would be very easy to give us a bonesplitters type battletome, with some small changes (rend on wild riders, more battalions, a dragon) and we would be in a better position, for not that much more work. A daughters of khaine type battletome release would be even better, we could get wardancers back, some more wild type units to give us more combat presence, and fix wild riders, but that would take effort 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreal Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Double post, but i had a idea Gw could put a larger base in the wild riders/sisters box and make a warscroll for a mounted wild prince/spellweaver like they did with flesh eater courts. Waystriders could be made out of wildwood rangers Wayfinders out of glade guard Waywatchers out of sisters of the watch. Then we just need a plastic spellweaver (or keep the finecast, whatever), then just some simple battalions giving some rerolls or bonuses if in cover. Put some funky rules for kindreds from different realms like what idoneth and daughters of khain got. Boom, we have a battletome. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadee Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 (edited) On 7/26/2018 at 10:07 AM, Gwill_of_the_Woods said: @Seadee- Caravan of the Golden Stag is an awesome name for a Wanderers army! I've called mine "Hunter's Moon". I think that the War/Shadow Dancers could have been a really amazing combat unit for us. My Wanderers are taking solace back at the forest for a while, except for maybe some use as allies. I genuinely can't use them well enough to actually win a match. I was having some luck with the GHB2017 realm-wanderers set-up, but now in GHB2018/V2 I don't stand a chance. I feel like I'm just playing to see how little I lose by, or how long I can last. I'm starting to build up a Deepkin army, so a Waywatcher will be welcome. Thanks They were/are going to be Gypsies, sort of... Gypsies or Carnival Folk (basically AoS Halequins) from what i've read in this thread and on others, the only way it works is if you pick the best units from a general order army, then proxy/convert them to fit the Forest folk theme. so i was going to get a Celestial Hurricanum and make that into my "caravan", then expand from there... witch alves as war/shadow dancers, sisters of thorn/doomfire warlocks, etc basically, get a decent Mixed list, then think about which Wood Elf unit could represent which warscroll. i even toyed with the idea of using Stormcasts as Mercenary body guards, either as it or by using the elvan bloodbowl team! Ultimately i decided to go Undead, not exactly sure why, but it just caught and held my attention. Edited July 27, 2018 by Seadee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreal Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 So i made some plastic wardancers 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aezeal Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 4 hours ago, adreal said: So i made some plastic wardancers These look surprisingly good. Which parts have you used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreal Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Hellion legs and heads, wild rider torso and capes, assorted arms (wildwood ranger, harlequin, wild rider, glade guard) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aezeal Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, adreal said: Hellion legs and heads, wild rider torso and capes, assorted arms (wildwood ranger, harlequin, wild rider, glade guard) Ah hellion legs and heads... was mostly wondering about them. PM I like small weapon wardancers best.. the heavy weapon wardancers never really look right to me (Gw's older ones had this and I see the same in your champion) it's hard to imagine gracefull moves with such a weapon. Edited July 29, 2018 by Aezeal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreal Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Aezeal said: Ah hellion legs... was mostly wondering about them. PM I like small weapon wardancers best.. the heavy weapon wardancers never really look right to me (Gw's older ones had this and I see the same in your champion) it's hard to imagine gracefull moves with such a weapon. Oh for sure i understand the issue with the heavier weapons, ideally i would have liked to use wyche weapons but i dont have any sprues of wyches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aezeal Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, adreal said: Oh for sure i understand the issue with the heavier weapons, ideally i would have liked to use wyche weapons but i dont have any sprues of wyches That model is my least favorite of the bunch.. everything (I think) you used to make him a champion is not as good looking as in the other models. I don't really like the helmeted look from the wild rider either. Those other 4 models are just great though.. the legs are ideal for this sort of stuff (I guess harlequin legs might be useable too?) and those hellion heads just look awesome. Could you show them once you have painted them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreal Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 @Aezeal yeah i can understand that, the wild rider head does look abit big, might change that for a escher or hellion head. The big sword will probably stay though, as i dont have alot of weapons. When i paint them ill post them up again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aezeal Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Dual spears from the sister's of the thorn or wild rider spears? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreal Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 I had one left over from the sisters box cause i built a banner, the rest just have swords Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinbot Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) So what's the general prognosis with regards to starting a Wanderers army from scratch these days? Do people expect that they'll continue to be supported beyond GH2018? If I play Wanderers at 1000 points can I expect to be tabled 90% of the time, regardless of experience? Metal hero models notwithstanding, I really like the models that are still supported. I don't care much about playing a top tier army but I don't want to dump money into a faction that gets phased out after a year or so. Edited July 29, 2018 by Justinbot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreal Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 3 hours ago, Justinbot said: So what's the general prognosis with regards to starting a Wanderers army from scratch these days? Do people expect that they'll continue to be supported beyond GH2018? If I play Wanderers at 1000 points can I expect to be tabled 90% of the time, regardless of experience? Metal hero models notwithstanding, I really like the models that are still supported. I don't care much about playing a top tier army but I don't want to dump money into a faction that gets phased out after a year or so. Will wanderers get fazed out? Doubtful, most of our boxes are the white age of sigmar boxes with round bases, and we do have allegiance traits and synergies inside with our units. Is it a great army where you have a decent shot of winning each game? Well thats debatable, but honestly, its a no, we have a uphill battle and why i can understand the nerf, the hit to realm wanderers hurts. Will this army be supported in the future? If games workshop see it as a viable avenue for sales and the story warrents it, then yes. Narrativly, Slaanesh is our best bet for some limelight, we as a community of players need to show games workshop that wanderers has a fan base. So play in local stores, pist up pictures on thier facebook page, buy the ebooks that we have. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aezeal Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, Justinbot said: So what's the general prognosis with regards to starting a Wanderers army from scratch these days? Do people expect that they'll continue to be supported beyond GH2018? If I play Wanderers at 1000 points can I expect to be tabled 90% of the time, regardless of experience? Metal hero models notwithstanding, I really like the models that are still supported. I don't care much about playing a top tier army but I don't want to dump money into a faction that gets phased out after a year or so. I doubt it would be wise atm. Yes... GW might do someting more with our wanderers in the future... but Personally I'd wait untill they do before starting them as a new army. There are plenty of armies which are better supported and presumably are nice to have too. If aesthetic, complete squatting and winning at least 10 % of games are your only concerns you should just be save though. Edited July 30, 2018 by Aezeal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 19 hours ago, Justinbot said: So what's the general prognosis with regards to starting a Wanderers army from scratch these days? Do people expect that they'll continue to be supported beyond GH2018? If I play Wanderers at 1000 points can I expect to be tabled 90% of the time, regardless of experience? Metal hero models notwithstanding, I really like the models that are still supported. I don't care much about playing a top tier army but I don't want to dump money into a faction that gets phased out after a year or so. Most armys are ballanced at 2000 point. If you play 1000 a behemoth is very OP and sadly wanderers dont got that. So if you play 1000 pt and want to win just take 2 units of 30 glade guarde and see a average of 0,33*60=20 hits rend -3 teare apart any behemoth. Last weekend I put put Nagash in first round that way, and the 800 point lost made my opponent a bit sad Anyway I just started to make some magic card for the wanderers to in order to have all required information in a small and nice looking piece of paper. What do you guys think? https://mtgcardsmith.com/view/normade-price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwill_of_the_Woods Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 20 hours ago, adreal said: Will wanderers get fazed out? Doubtful, most of our boxes are the white age of sigmar boxes with round bases, and we do have allegiance traits and synergies inside with our units. Is it a great army where you have a decent shot of winning each game? Well thats debatable, but honestly, its a no, we have a uphill battle and why i can understand the nerf, the hit to realm wanderers hurts. Will this army be supported in the future? If games workshop see it as a viable avenue for sales and the story warrents it, then yes. Narrativly, Slaanesh is our best bet for some limelight, we as a community of players need to show games workshop that wanderers has a fan base. So play in local stores, pist up pictures on thier facebook page, buy the ebooks that we have. Hey @adreal, I loved the Orion trilogy, but what other Wanderers lierature is there? I didn't know that they released anything mentioning Wanderers, except for the core rules book, Order book, and possibly Sylvaneth book? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aezeal Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 13 minutes ago, Gwill_of_the_Woods said: Hey @adreal, I loved the Orion trilogy, but what other Wanderers lierature is there? I didn't know that they released anything mentioning Wanderers, except for the core rules book, Order book, and possibly Sylvaneth book? There is something about a nomad prince in AoS/shadespire I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreal Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Autumn prince (i think) and sands of grief 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popisdead Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 On 7/25/2018 at 4:42 PM, adreal said: In grand alliance order you can still field wardancers They pair very well with Sisters of the Thorn as the +2 save dance (and if in cover) means they are bouncing mortal wounds back on a 3+. Re-rolling saves too. The classic 1987 models alone mean that's an option worth looking at. On 7/29/2018 at 1:08 PM, Justinbot said: So what's the general prognosis with regards to starting a Wanderers army from scratch these days? Do people expect that they'll continue to be supported beyond GH2018? Honestly hard to say but I would be more shocked if you didn't get a good 3-4 more years of playing them. GW is stocking stores with the kits. That alone is significant as shelf space is key in a retail store. On 7/30/2018 at 1:29 PM, Gwill_of_the_Woods said: , but what other Wanderers lierature is there? Guardians of the Forest was a Graham MacNeil novel released in August 2005 for the reboot of the army. Guy Haley has done both a short story and audio drama on a Nomad Prince (who rides a great stag) set in the current time line that is quite good. Buy them both to support more Wanderer stuff (Guy has indicated he wants to continue with the character). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwill_of_the_Woods Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Popisdead said: They pair very well with Sisters of the Thorn as the +2 save dance (and if in cover) means they are bouncing mortal wounds back on a 3+. Re-rolling saves too. The classic 1987 models alone mean that's an option worth looking at. Honestly hard to say but I would be more shocked if you didn't get a good 3-4 more years of playing them. GW is stocking stores with the kits. That alone is significant as shelf space is key in a retail store. Guardians of the Forest was a Graham MacNeil novel released in August 2005 for the reboot of the army. Guy Haley has done both a short story and audio drama on a Nomad Prince (who rides a great stag) set in the current time line that is quite good. Buy them both to support more Wanderer stuff (Guy has indicated he wants to continue with the character). Are they on Black Library? ...do you get them through the GW site? It would be really interesteing to see how they are portrayed in the fluff set in AoS! I'll also check out the Guardians too. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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