Kramer Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Furuzzolo said: For Grimnir lets wait for the allegiance abilities! What's wrong with you guys?? 🤣 Don’t be like that! That’s why you use pencil in the book of grudges.. just in case you were wrong. Just sneakily remove the grudge. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironbreaker Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Yep, my 1000 point list is now 980 with no way to fill the gap. I love AoS list building! /s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furuzzolo Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Just now, Ironbreaker said: Yep, my 1000 point list is now 980 with no way to fill the gap. I love AoS list building! /s Triumph bonus, that's how you fill the gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkanaut Admiral Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 The fact that the Dispossessed are going to be in the GHB is enough for me. I look forward to starting an army of them. I’m wondering about the future of the model range though. I can see the Longbeards and Ironbreakers staying, but what about the rank and file warriors? They seem too old fashioned in style, and come in an odd number. They’ll probably be the first to be replaced right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furuzzolo Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Arkanaut Admiral said: what about the rank and file warriors? I would not invest in them. (And I have a tons ahah) Longbeards were less effective than warriora points/wounds and I usually took 10 to buff hammerers or Irondrakes. Now I think Longbeards are just better. Runelord x3 240 Warden king 100 Cogsmith 100 Cannon x2 280 Longbeards x10 100 Longbeards x10 100 Hammerers x30 360 Ironbreakers x30 360 Irondrakes x20 360 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmGandix3 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 I just watched a review on YouTube. Looks like they did not change that much if anything regarding the Allegiance abilities. I didn't watch the full video maybe there was something I missed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furuzzolo Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Pretty much the same as gh18. Now we can cry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dammaz Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 You want something to rejoice upon ? Cannons *2 + Gunmaster now cost only 360pts. Just what you need as allies to send anything flying on a 32" range. By Grungni beard, let those ratty ****** fly ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenshin620 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Arkanaut Admiral said: They seem too old fashioned in style, and come in an odd number. They’ll probably be the first to be replaced right? I'm sure skaven players were looking forwards to plastic acolytes and updated night runners... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Dammaz said: You want something to rejoice upon ? Cannons *2 + Gunmaster now cost only 360pts. Just what you need as allies to send anything flying on a 32" range. By Grungni beard, let those ratty ****** fly ! Good catch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aden Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Looks like Longbeards get a horde discount and seems Ancestral Pickaxe's changed from one unit within 3 inches to 6 inches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 6 hours ago, Arkanaut Admiral said: The fact that the Dispossessed are going to be in the GHB is enough for me. I look forward to starting an army of them. I’m wondering about the future of the model range though. I can see the Longbeards and Ironbreakers staying, but what about the rank and file warriors? They seem too old fashioned in style, and come in an odd number. They’ll probably be the first to be replaced right? Well the skaven say hello to you then. 2 hours ago, kenshin620 said: I'm sure skaven players were looking forwards to plastic acolytes and updated night runners... and?, and?, and?, and?, and?........ wheres the rest of our 75% not made out of plastic models. anyways, I think we should just wait till we know a bit more about the possible changed allegiance. (maybe will be finally able to generate more more rune power) or, or get a grudge against every factions, like get a extra plus 1 to the saverolls against the vermintides, or add an extra to wound role when fighting aelve etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zadolix Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 I'm really hoping it doesn't turn out to be true that our allegiance abilities or warscrolls haven't changed. Minor points discounts are not going to fix the problems our beards are facing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, Zadolix said: I'm really hoping it doesn't turn out to be true that our allegiance abilities or warscrolls haven't changed. Minor points discounts are not going to fix the problems our beards are facing I’ve just watched a view reviews, and I’m very sorry to inform you that it seems like nothing really changed for the dispossesseds the only armies that got any major revamp are the seraphons and Ironjaws 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭, although if I heard the guy right, than you’ll be able to choose your grudge each time at the beginning of a battle after everything has been set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zadolix Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, Skreech Verminking said: I’ve just watched a view reviews, and I’m very sorry to inform you that it seems like nothing really changed for the dispossesseds the only armies that got any major revamp are the seraphons and Ironjaws 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭, although if I heard the guy right, than you’ll be able to choose your grudge each time at the beginning of a battle after everything has been set up. That is very unfortunate... Especially considering all of the feedback we have all collectively fedback to GW through the survey, comments, emails and other things over the past year. I will see how the army plays with the minor minor changes we have received and with the new formats of play and see how it goes. I'm not super optimistic since other armies have also had discounts so whatever we gain is likely negated anyway by what others gain. The only plus side I can see is that us being in the GHB19 at least says that we are not getting discontinued, they are still committed to keeping us around. The biggest change that just seems completely nonsensical is warriors being 90pts. I mean seriously I can have a 4+ save, better bravery and reroll 1s to wound all the time with longbeards for 100pts, why would I even consider warriors anymore? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Zadolix said: That is very unfortunate... Especially considering all of the feedback we have all collectively fedback to GW through the survey, comments, emails and other things over the past year. I will see how the army plays with the minor minor changes we have received and with the new formats of play and see how it goes. I'm not super optimistic since other armies have also had discounts so whatever we gain is likely negated anyway by what others gain. The only plus side I can see is that us being in the GHB19 at least says that we are not getting discontinued, they are still committed to keeping us around. The biggest change that just seems completely nonsensical is warriors being 90pts. I mean seriously I can have a 4+ save, better bravery and reroll 1s to wound all the time with longbeards for 100pts, why would I even consider warriors anymore? Because Warriors are Battleline in GA:Order and one of the best ones in that format. My guess is this change is influenced by that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furuzzolo Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 10 hours ago, Max Baumann said: Seems like the Dispossessed won't get the big changes we all hoped for, it would be interesting to see the artefacts though. Hopefully they fixed that pickaxe. No. Just minor tweak to inches, no changes from the 2018 allegiance abilities. No warscroll changes. Just the same, folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oath Stoned Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 The new points work for me. I'll cut 10 warriors and upgrade them to 10 hammerers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkanaut Admiral Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Wouldn’t the warrior points hike be somewhat counter balanced by the reduced price of the heroes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmGandix3 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, Arkanaut Admiral said: Wouldn’t the warrior points hike be somewhat counter balanced by the reduced price of the heroes? for the most part it is for every two warriors unit you take a hero and your back to the old points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prochuvi Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 So no changues to nothing in the book about alegiances etc. In points we got a nerf to warrior and a buff to heroes and hammerers(who need be 120 points to be a option in competitive). So in general we got a sligth buff if we changue warriors to longbeards(i gonna run mine warriors as longbeards) that would be cool for a competiive army. But a botton tier army with those changues are a joke,armys as nighthaunts who are a t1-2 army have got a nerf to reapers and across tye boards buffs to every other unit,lon got nerf to reapers and wols but huge buffs to heroes and units and etc etc every top army got the same sligth buffs than us or bigger buffs.so the gap betwen dispossesed and battletomes armys gonna be the same or bigger after this gh. I dont wanna be pesimist but those changues wont get us out of the botton tier where dispossesed are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmGandix3 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 im currently experimenting with some lists and wanted to ask if mercenaries work for free cities. If this is the case we could use ironweld arsenal in cities that would normaly not allow them, like hallow heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonBenny Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 How does Iron Arsenal works? I see people taking their cannon. They count as allied to Dispossessed? Or are people just building an ''Order'' army and picking from all orders faction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmGandix3 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, VonBenny said: How does Iron Arsenal works? I see people taking their cannon. They count as allied to Dispossessed? Or are people just building an ''Order'' army and picking from all orders faction? They are allies to dispossessed so you can use 200 pts of them in 1000 pt games and 400 pts in 2000pt games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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