DantePQ Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 4 hours ago, Lou_Cypher said: Minor question but.... what's the main use of the Slaughter Troupe? It allows units to retreat and still charge, sure. But Sisters of Slaughter can just retreat + run outside 3", and then pile-in 6" anyway. And for the price of the battalion, you can get a few extra things instead. Is it for less drops? Utility for the Heartrenders? Mainly its because it's a battalion so you have fewer drops which helps a lot against Nagash or Gavriel SCE plus battalion contains great units (so there isn't much tax) plus you get extra item so for example Bloodwrack Medusa with Shadow Stone is sweet. Battalion bonus could be useful and it's very fine as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Rey Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Thoughts on this 1k list? Allegiance: Daughters of Khaine Temple: Draichi Ganeth Leaders Hag Queen Artefact: Iron Circlet Prayer: Catechism of Murder Bloodwrack Medusa General Trait: Terrifying Beauty Lore of Shadows: Mindrazor Battleline 20 x Blood Sisters 30 x Witch Aelves - Pairs of Sacrificial Knives Total: 950 / 1000 Extra Command Points: 1 Allies: 0 / 200 Wounds: 81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valenae Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) Assembling army for competitive tournament 2000 pts Ant thoughts? Temple Hagg Nar Morathi Slaughter Queen on Cauldron of blood (General, Sacrament of Blood, Gryph Feather Charm ) Hag Queen on Cauldron of Blood (Catechism of Murder, Iron Circlet) Witch aelves 30 (two daggers) Witch aelves 20 (two daggers) Witch aelves 10 (bucklers) Khinerai Lifetakers 5 Khinerai Lifetakers 5 Cauldron Guard Edited January 30, 2019 by Valenae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantePQ Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 You need to drop Hag Queen on Cauldron and add 10 Witches to 20 Witches unit Medusa with Shadow of Stone and 2 Hag Queens on foot and its and army I have been wining a lot with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alathenar Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 I Wargamers, I'm a french player so you will have to accept my poor english. I make next week a little tournament (1000 points). I want to hear your advices because hour daughters are not so easy to play in those conditions. Yhe main problem : You can't use all hour classic buff (command ability, a magic phase and have the shield of the cauldron). In deed, in 2k, usally use a Mudusae, a Slaughter queen on cauldron and 2 hag quenns. But this is here inpossible. I think that the option with Morathi is the best : for 480 points + 60 points : + You have a Magic phase. (strong then low). +You have a command ability (tun one maybe). + You can pay a hag quenn for the witchbrew - But i hav'nt the Bloodshield. Here is my army list. : llegiance: Daughters of Khaine - Temple: Hagg Nar LEADERS Morathi High Oracle of Khaine (480) - General - Lore of Shadows : Mindrazor Hag Queen (60) - Artefact : Iron Circlet - Prayer : Catechism of Murder UNITS 30 x Witch Aelves (270) - Sacrificial Knives and Blade Bucklers 10 x Witch Aelves (100) - Pairs of Sacrificial Knives 5 x Khinerai Heartrenders (80) TOTAL: 990/2000 EXTRA COMMAND POINTS: 20 WOUNDS: 56 The herartrenders are here for the map control because they are 5 objectives in the scénario (one in the middle 2 in the deployements zones. The alternative list withnt Morahi : Allegiance: Daughters of Khaine - Temple: Hagg Nar LEADERS Bloodwrack Medusa (140) - General Hag Queen on Cauldron of Blood (300) UNITS 5 x Blood Sisters (140) 30 x Witch Aelves (270) - Sacrificial Knives and Blade Bucklers 10 x Witch Aelves (100) - Pairs of Sacrificial Knives One more command point but no command ability and less possibility in map control. I'm wainting for you guys Thank you very much for the time you waste for me reading my bad english ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valenae Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Quote How you fight agains heavy-magic Legions of Nagash guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j0lt Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Definitely going to pickup a Battleforce when I get paid, had a few friendly games against a friend whilst playing with his DoK and they seem really fun, I suppose I should get the magnets ready to test out some of the Khinerai kits. Thanks for the information previous posters! All handy to a new DoK player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 @j0lt just remember don't hold back on Battleforces they are limited production runs and Seraphon has already sold out as have several of the 40K ones. DoK one is a great kit and gives you a really solid core to start and expand with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j0lt Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 6 hours ago, Overread said: @j0lt just remember don't hold back on Battleforces they are limited production runs and Seraphon has already sold out as have several of the 40K ones. DoK one is a great kit and gives you a really solid core to start and expand with. I'll probably pull the trigger soon!I read this thread from the very start and found your comments very useful about this so thanks for that, might not be overly competitive but I really like the Khinerai Models 😍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 @j0lt Khinerai are fiddly things to put together and clean up but I do like building them and they do look fantastic once built! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valenae Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 I build 10 khinerai recently and yesterday starts to paint them. They really cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucentia Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 I have 20 Lifetakers to put together, and I grabbed some Azyrite Ruins to chop up and add to the bases to try and make the more stable, I'm kinda dreading getting started on the project, tbh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 I'll be interested to see how your ruins idea goes @Lucentia do please post photos and such! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xil Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 On 2/5/2019 at 12:04 PM, Overread said: @j0lt just remember don't hold back on Battleforces they are limited production runs and Seraphon has already sold out as have several of the 40K ones. DoK one is a great kit and gives you a really solid core to start and expand with. Hello new Player here. Started Daughters and Sylvaneth. Secured myself a Box and ordered now a second one. The deal is too good to not take advantage. As I noticed there is a need to get everything in this specific box two times minimum anyway. If I am not mistaken two Boxes can give ~1890 Points of models. The way I did it. 1 Cauldron of Blood (magnetized Hag and Slaughter Queen) 1 Bloodwrack Shrine 1 Medusa 1 Hag Queen AND Slaughter Queen 1 Hag OR Slaughter Queen (depends on the Cauldron variation as shown above 20 Wych Aelfs/SoS 10 Blood Stalkers/Sisters 1 Avatar of Khaine 10 Lifetakers 10 Heartrenders A solid buy and work for months Sorry for the long first post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutter Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Welcome aboard the butcher train! Yeah, the battleforce really is a neat way to get started, and great value for money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantePQ Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Yep I bought batleforce myself as I want to finish my DoK collection by painting 10 Blood Stalkers, another and 10 more Lifetakers and will sell rest I'm strongly considering taking Snake build to GT Heat 1 , it would be fun not taking Cauldron but it remains to be seen, I'm thinking about several builds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olincay Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) Hey lads, another list advice post inc. after coming 27th at cancon out of 200 players *which im happy with* im changing up my list. Iv'e got two variations that are slightly similar but im after everyones opinion to which they'd pick. CC welcome. Edited February 8, 2019 by Olincay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InSaint Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) For those building competitive lists, here are the DoK unit Tiers taking into consideration how point efficient they are and possible synergies. Unit Tiers Tier 1 - Hag Queen on foot, Slaughter Queen on Cauldron of Blood, Witch Aelves, Khinerai Heartrenders, Blood Sisters Tier 2 - Morathi, Slaughter Queen on foot, Bloodwrack Shrine, Hag Queen on Cauldron of Blood, Doomfire Warlocks Tier 3 - Bloodwrack Medusa, Blood Stalkers, Khinerai Lifetakers, Avatar of Khaine on foot Temple Tiers Tier 1 - Hag Narr Tier 2 - Khailebron and Draichi Ganeth Tier 3 - Kraith All the DoK Battalions are unfortunately ****** forcing you to field sub-par units. If you just want to have fun, enjoy a great time with friends and not be the ******. Just play whatever you like. 😁 Edited February 8, 2019 by InSaint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutter Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, InSaint said: Tier 3 - Bloodwrack Medusa What? Ist that why you see it in so many lists? Edited February 8, 2019 by Mutter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantePQ Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) Bloodwrack Medusa is no way Tier 3 as she is reliable caster and almost any battalion army could take her with Shadow Stone plus Mindrazor. She has 6W, nice shooting ability and a lot of attacks in CC. And how Battalions force you to take subpar units? That's not a case with Slaughter Troupe I guess. Edited February 8, 2019 by DantePQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whispersofblood Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Spell selection really is a meta dependant call, imo. Mind razor might be a futile spell with the number of grimms at LVO But, if you have the points, lore of shadow and the medusa seem strong to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InSaint Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mutter said: What? Ist that why you see it in so many lists? Because there isn't a choice in the DoK battletome. She is the only cheapest DoK wizard that can carry Shadow Stone? 1 hour ago, DantePQ said: Bloodwrack Medusa is no way Tier 3 as she is reliable caster and almost any battalion army could take her with Shadow Stone plus Mindrazor. She has 6W, nice shooting ability and a lot of attacks in CC. And how Battalions force you to take subpar units? That's not a case with Slaughter Troupe I guess. This is in contrast to the the Bloodwrack Shrine which is an insanely cost efficient upgrade. For 80 more pts, you get extra 6W, more attacks and 2 D3 mortal wound abilities. The 2" reduction movement can be easily corrected with Steeds of Shadow. At 220pts, you have a 16" flying 12 W shrine that can comfortably position itself to decimate an entire blob and proceed to vomit D3 mortal wounds Mindrazor is unfortunately near worthless in the current LON NH spam meta. If I read the battletome correctly, Slaughter Troupe forces you to field at least 2 SoS units and up to 2 additional Witches units. Edited February 8, 2019 by InSaint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantePQ Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) You can't use Shrine ability after Steed of Shadows as it works at they start of hero phase Mindrazor is far from useless as there are a lot SCE, Deepkins in the meta, also you can combine it with easy to cast Shroud of Despair. Sure Mindrazor isn't good against LoN but it's amazing on everything else, also you can cast it on Bravery 10 Cauldron or Bravery 10 Morathi + possible Shroud of Despair debuff. Slaughter Troupe is 2x Sisters of Slaughter and 2xHeartrenders Edited February 8, 2019 by DantePQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Schmidt Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I finally got my Khalibron / Shadow Patrol list to work. Took on Blood Knight heavy Legion of Blood (I think) in Knife to the Heart. I played cagey the first turn, put some wounds on a VLoZD. My spell rolls were hot garbage, either failing or unbound. This turned around later in the game which was critical. He got into my Life Takers and Blood Sisters with 30 Dire Wolves, VLoZD, and some Knights. I was able to jam up this attack a little with combats and Gravetide while my General and 5 Blood Sisters teleported to the corner behind his objective which was being guarded by 5 Dire Wolves and 5 more knights. Geminids, Withering, and good charge rolls with my Medusa General and Melusai were able to capture his objective, winning me the game on end of turn 3. This has been a fun army to play but hard to learn. Very excited to continue to keep figuring them out. Medusa - Crystal Heart, The Withering Medusa - Wisperclaw of Judgement, Shadow Steed Hag - Catechisim of Murder Hag - Prayer that counts the turn one forward 10 Blood Sisters 5 Blood Sisters 5 Blood Sisters 15 Khinerai Lifetakers 5 Khinerai Heartrenders 5 Khinerai Heartrenders 5 Khinerai Heartrenders 5 Warlocks 5 Warlocks Shadow Patrol Geminids Gravetide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Schmidt Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Here is a shot of the table before the game started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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