Rachmani Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Is anyone else here kind of annoyed, that the Lord Arcanum with the best Command Ability is the one with the thematically least fitting mount? I‘m off course talking about the Lord Arcanum on Gryph Charger and strictly from a fluff perspective. The model is good & Ride the Wind fits the Lord Arcanum‘s playstyle well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melcavuk Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Torn between the following as a heavier hitting element of a 2k list if anyone has any tips: 2 x 10 Evocators OR 2 x 3 Dracoline Evocators and 1 x 2 Fulminators The latter has alot more manueverability but unsure if it makes up for the comparative hitting power of the evocators. The list will have a lord castellant and a lord arcanum on dracoline to boost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klak Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 (edited) I got the sequitor multi-part box and it doesn't look like i can't build a prime with a great mace out of it? think i can just use one of the non-helmet heads and call that the prime? Edited August 6, 2018 by Klak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richelieu Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 44 minutes ago, Melcavuk said: Torn between the following as a heavier hitting element of a 2k list if anyone has any tips: 2 x 10 Evocators OR 2 x 3 Dracoline Evocators and 1 x 2 Fulminators The latter has alot more manueverability but unsure if it makes up for the comparative hitting power of the evocators. The list will have a lord castellant and a lord arcanum on dracoline to boost. I think it depends on a number of factors. Is the list you're building the Stormhost that lady Olynder trapped in a reflection? If so, I think that rank upon rank of infantry with their tormented aspects would be visually terrifying and effective competitively. A bunch of cavalry, especially dragon cats, is cool and fun to play though... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tittliewinks22 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Klak said: I got the sequitor multi-part box and it doesn't look like i can't build a prime with a great mace out of it? think i can just use one of the non-helmet heads and call that the prime? Just built mine. The arms are interchangable for the female prime to have a mace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klak Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 yeah i just built with the male one and the arms fit but the shoulder pad doesn't look quite right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 9 hours ago, Rachmani said: Is anyone else here kind of annoyed, that the Lord Arcanum with the best Command Ability is the one with the thematically least fitting mount What do you mean mate? Sorry, I'm not really deep into Stormcast fluff yet, but what's un-thematic about the Gryph-charger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachmani Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 51 minutes ago, Roark said: What do you mean mate? Sorry, I'm not really deep into Stormcast fluff yet, but what's un-thematic about the Gryph-charger? I‘m talking about the fact that the whole Sacrosanct Chamber is thematically built around Dracolines & the Tauralon - but the guy with the best command Ability (who also has a pretty potent spell) rides a Gryph Charger. The Gryph Charger on the other hand is the mount of choice for the Vanguard. But the command ability of the Lord Arcanum on Gryph Charger doesn’t affect Vanguard units. It‘s instead specifically for Sacrosanct Chamber Units. It‘s a bit as if there was a Lord Celestant with a potent command ability that affects the whole Dracothian Guard. Except he neither rides a Dracoth nor a Star Drake but an „Angry Moa“ that completely breaks with the visuals of the rest of your army. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwabbele Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 I wonder if the knight-venator is a good choice? Or should I pack a unit judicators instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitloze Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Anyone here still plays Warrior Chamber? I only started playing this year and I can't keep up with all these chambers lol. Only non Warrior chamber stuff I have is a Knight-Incantor and a Lord cele on dracoth (if you don't count extremis) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceytrixx Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 21 minutes ago, Rachmani said: I‘m talking about the fact that the whole Sacrosanct Chamber is thematically built around Dracolines & the Tauralon - but the guy with the best command Ability (who also has a pretty potent spell) rides a Gryph Charger. The Gryph Charger on the other hand is the mount of choice for the Vanguard. But the command ability of the Lord Arcanum on Gryph Charger doesn’t affect Vanguard units. It‘s instead specifically for Sacrosanct Chamber Units. It‘s a bit as if there was a Lord Celestant with a potent command ability that affects the whole Dracothian Guard. Except he neither rides a Dracoth nor a Star Drake but an „Angry Moa“ that completely breaks with the visuals of the rest of your army. Solbright has a better version of the command ability and is cheaper but has a worse spell and is limited to hammers only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachmani Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 minute ago, aceytrixx said: Solbright has a better version of the command ability and is cheaper but has a worse spell and is limited to hammers only. Exactly. And if she wasn‘t Hammers only, I‘d be ok with that. But as it is it feels just a tad wrong to auto-include the Gryph Charger Dude. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceytrixx Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rachmani said: Exactly. And if she wasn‘t Hammers only, I‘d be ok with that. But as it is it feels just a tad wrong to auto-include the Gryph Charger Dude. Even as a hammers player who will be using her and Aventis (love the lore of Hammerhal and it was my fee city in the firestorm campaign I was in) I think they should have given some other stormhosts named characters instead of them all being Hammers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledha Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 hour ago, aceytrixx said: Even as a hammers player who will be using her and Aventis (love the lore of Hammerhal and it was my fee city in the firestorm campaign I was in) I think they should have given some other stormhosts named characters instead of them all being Hammers. I agree. Creating those two while guys like Grymn, Gardus, Diomar or Syrrocco exist since the beginning of AOS made me mad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 (edited) speaking about solbright, is the kit easy convertible to a normal arcanum on dracoline? PS: I'll order also the dracoline box if it helps conversion Edited August 6, 2018 by GeneralZero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melcavuk Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 12 hours ago, Richelieu said: I think it depends on a number of factors. Is the list you're building the Stormhost that lady Olynder trapped in a reflection? If so, I think that rank upon rank of infantry with their tormented aspects would be visually terrifying and effective competitively. A bunch of cavalry, especially dragon cats, is cool and fun to play though... PLanning to intersperse the Cawdor hooded head for the Sacrosanct members of my Host as they have only recently departed the relative safety of Azyr, so are fewer reforges into their extended life and arent quite as hollow looking as their kin. But yes it is for the Haunted looking chamber. The Evocators on foot look like fantastic kits, and 20 of them over 6 cats and 2 dracolines does seem like theyd be particularly savage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Hey all - new to AoS and currently looking at army options... With all the support they've had it seems like Sigmarines could put together a pretty crazy shooting-based army...? How would you go about this and would it be effective? Basically I wouldn't include a unit unless it had a ranged attack I'm guessing Ordinators and some Ironweld or other war-machines for allies a must? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielFM Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, schwabbele said: I wonder if the knight-venator is a good choice? Or should I pack a unit judicators instead? I would say he isn't. Outside of the one-use Starfated Arrow, he doesn't shoot any better that 3 Javelin Prosecutors. There is a trick to turn him into a nuclear ICBM, but it's risky. Blessed Weapons prayer (works on a 4+), Luckstone to turn the to hit dice on a 6, and you get two Starfated Arrow hits for a maximum of 18 wounds. Is it worth it? I don't know. But it's sure flashy as heck 4 hours ago, aceytrixx said: Solbright has a better version of the command ability and is cheaper but has a worse spell and is limited to hammers only. Yeah, if it wasn't for my extreme hatred against Hammers of Sigmar she would be an auto-include! Edit: So first Stormcast army in Blackout was 27. Should we doom and gloom already? Can you think of any theories for our bad performance? Edited August 6, 2018 by DanielFM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenshin620 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 14 minutes ago, Charlo said: Hey all - new to AoS and currently looking at army options... With all the support they've had it seems like Sigmarines could put together a pretty crazy shooting-based army...? How would you go about this and would it be effective? Basically I wouldn't include a unit unless it had a ranged attack I'm guessing Ordinators and some Ironweld or other war-machines for allies a must? I think if you're doing a full stormcast army, the ballista should be all the artillery you'll need. Also I'm guessing you want to do a Vanguard army to have Vanguard Hunter battleline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, kenshin620 said: I think if you're doing a full stormcast army, the ballista should be all the artillery you'll need. Also I'm guessing you want to do a Vanguard army to have Vanguard Hunter battleline? Yeah, Vanguard Hunters shoot so it would make sense! Is the new Ballista that good then, are things like Cannons irrelevant now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenshin620 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 11 minutes ago, Charlo said: Yeah, Vanguard Hunters shoot so it would make sense! Is the new Ballista that good then, are things like Cannons irrelevant now? Well I wouldn't say cannons are irrelevant but since stormcast have some more interesting deploying mechanics, it makes sense to use ballistas and pop them where you want them to be rather than set up a normal cannon and pray to sigmar you have a clear firing line. Plus the updated rules for artillery makes them much tougher, which sadly only applies to the ballista (old artillery still use the janky crew rules). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Cool! So what would a list look like to maximise shooting? Are the older Storm-cast ranged units worth it? What about the Dragon Riders with crossbows etc? Just like the idea of them all shooting lightning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughwyeth Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 44 minutes ago, DanielFM said: Edit: So first Stormcast army in Blackout was 27. Should we doom and gloom already? Can you think of any theories for our bad performance? It's only 1 tournament. Worth waiting to see how Sacrosanct heavy SC do once the new rules have settled in a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 ....and it was probably full of Death, Nurgle, ID, DoK.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chord Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, hughwyeth said: It's only 1 tournament. Worth waiting to see how Sacrosanct heavy SC do once the new rules have settled in a bit. Do we know the list used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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