Juicy Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 40 minutes ago, PJetski said: What are you guys hoping to see for Stormcast in the winter FAQ update? buffed prosecutors would make my year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkayestDM Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, PJetski said: What are you guys hoping to see for Stormcast in the winter FAQ update? My wish would be warscroll changes, but what we'll probably get will be a few more minor point drops. We likely won't see any meaningful updates until next edition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhamslam Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, PJetski said: What are you guys hoping to see for Stormcast in the winter FAQ update? Points drop wise- Retributors Protectors Decimators down 10 points Gryph Hounds (120 really????) Stardrake - 480 Fulminators Vandus - 230 Neave Blacktalon Astrei Solbright - 190 Lord Celestant on foot - 90 ALL of the SCE battalions save the vanguard ones could prolly go down 10 -20 points and be fine -------------------------------------------------------------- Rules Wise -- Clarification on the COS General with Staunch Defender Bunch of Aura length changes, like the Veritant one being 7 inches for Sanction , why not 9 or 12? idk But this wont happen till the tome Fixed: castellant Edited November 17, 2020 by jhamslam 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizrah Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Something useful... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The World Tree Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Lord Castellant at 90 is crazy! For me, aggressive pushes on Paladin units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 23 minutes ago, Nizrah said: Something useful... Tbf, last time we got point reductions enabling a build which single-handedly brought SCE back to podiums. That being said: -reduction on gryph hounds would be nice and fitting (since they pushed them in the broken realms box and battalion) -more reductions for lord arcanums on foot, gryph and possibly on tauralon -some more (conditional) battlelines like prosecutors, dracoths, and paladins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juicy Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 hours ago, The World Tree said: Lord Castellant at 90 is crazy! For me, aggressive pushes on Paladin units. 90 is a joke. I feel the lord castellant is fine for 120 to be honest. Prosecutors really need to drop points or a new warscroll. A new warscroll would be best because this unit is a 5 year long joke. doenst see any play apart from narrative. All paladin units can use some love aswell. Just talking about this makes me want an updated book with new combo's. I feel like most of the battalions in our book are useless or a joke.. atleast way to high prices for what it brings to the table. Would love vanguard wing to be powerfull without it being broken. Its so cool to have a big chunk of prosecutors supporting or teleporting judicators and liberators over the field and buff them to be able to handle stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The World Tree Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 We are going to get a book next summer, along with new models so asking for warscroll changes is less important imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evantas Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Pts drop in battalions, especially almost useful ones like cleansing phalanx. Meta has made reducing drops a high priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 11 hours ago, jhamslam said: Clarification on the COS General with Staunch Defender this is in the book, they have a dev note on the rule: COS Generals cannot command Stormcast units. rip the pipe dream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juicy Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, CommissarRotke said: this is in the book, they have a dev note on the rule: COS Generals cannot command Stormcast units. rip the pipe dream We kind of knew this part already but this doesnt say it cannot be the general and get command traits like that. It just avoid irondrake shooting twice on anvils of the heldenhammer etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhamslam Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Juicy said: 90 is a joke. I feel the lord castellant is fine for 120 to be honest. Prosecutors really need to drop points or a new warscroll. A new warscroll would be best because this unit is a 5 year long joke. doenst see any play apart from narrative. All paladin units can use some love aswell. Just talking about this makes me want an updated book with new combo's. I feel like most of the battalions in our book are useless or a joke.. atleast way to high prices for what it brings to the table. Would love vanguard wing to be powerfull without it being broken. Its so cool to have a big chunk of prosecutors supporting or teleporting judicators and liberators over the field and buff them to be able to handle stuff. woops i meant celestant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juicy Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, jhamslam said: woops i meant celestant I feel bad for our lord celestant. Damn this guy should be a lot better then a freeguild general. But he is not. Would love him to be 200 points with a good warscroll. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 22 minutes ago, Juicy said: We kind of knew this part already but this doesnt say it cannot be the general and get command traits like that. It just avoid irondrake shooting twice on anvils of the heldenhammer etc etc is there still a reason to even take a COS general though, besides the fact that it's possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, CommissarRotke said: is there still a reason to even take a COS general though, besides the fact that it's possible? the reason is still to have a stormhost and an actual command trait instead of some useless stuff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJetski Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, CommissarRotke said: is there still a reason to even take a COS general though, besides the fact that it's possible? You can take Staunch Defender and a Stormhost at the same time If you don't need Scions of the Storm then it's a no-brainer to take a COS unit with a big base (hurricanum, luminark, steam tank, phoenix, etc.) as your general. Edited November 17, 2020 by PJetski 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwabbele Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Do we really believe the CoS general and Staunch won’t be faqed instantly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, schwabbele said: Do we really believe the CoS general and Staunch won’t be faqed instantly? maybe (probably?) but maybe not. After all, it's a mechanic which exists in other books (like some KO ports) where you can "avoid" the forced trait by taking a general with a diferent keyword Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJetski Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 hour ago, schwabbele said: Do we really believe the CoS general and Staunch won’t be faqed instantly? Why would it get changed? There are other armies that can bring units outside their own faction, make those units the general, and give them a command trait. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizrah Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 What you think? Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals- Stormhost: Anvils of the Heldenhammer (Stormkeep)LeadersAnointed of Asuryan on Frostheart Phoenix (320)- General - Mirror Shield - Staunch DefenderLord-Castellant (120)Lord-Relictor (100)- Prayer: TranslocationKnight-Azyros (100)Knight-Incantor (120)- Spell: Chain LightningBattleline5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x GrandhammersUnits10 x Evocators (420)- 5x Grandstaves- Lore of Invigoration: Speed of Lightning9 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (510)3 x Aetherwings (40)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 117 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, Nizrah said: What you think? Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals- Stormhost: Anvils of the Heldenhammer (Stormkeep)LeadersAnointed of Asuryan on Frostheart Phoenix (320)- General - Mirror Shield - Staunch DefenderLord-Castellant (120)Lord-Relictor (100)- Prayer: TranslocationKnight-Azyros (100)Knight-Incantor (120)- Spell: Chain LightningBattleline5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x GrandhammersUnits10 x Evocators (420)- 5x Grandstaves- Lore of Invigoration: Speed of Lightning9 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (510)3 x Aetherwings (40)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 117 Maybe the castellant is not really doing much for you? I would replace it with more birds and an extra CP. In general I'd say there's always the problem of shooting with teleport which can delete your raptors (particularly so when teleport is not even linked to a specific hero surviving, like in Starborne seraphon, or kharadron boats) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 @Marcvs @PJetski I think I'm misremembering the command ability rules, I thought only the general could give out the command 😔 so any hero in the Stormkeep can use Staunch Defender? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, CommissarRotke said: @Marcvs @PJetski I think I'm misremembering the command ability rules, I thought only the general could give out the command 😔 so any hero in the Stormkeep can use Staunch Defender? you are correct, only your general can take a command trait, so only the general will be able to pick (and project) staunch defender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 oh it's a projection, I'm thinking it's like the lantern... I'm gonna re-read our rulebook when I get back home thanks for the clarifications Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwabbele Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 @PJetski @Marcvs I meant the Stormhost shenanigans with CoS general + Staunch, but after reading it a few times now it does sound correct , as it doesn't use the Stormcast Eternal keyword for the command trait only the Stormhost one. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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