Maturin Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Mikosan said: As Kramer mentioned a lot of those 5-6 wound support pieces are going to be dead turn 2. What list were you playing before ? I used to play Skyborne Slayers with either Celestant or AZyros taking the Sword of Judgement or a Starcast revisitation of mine. Both were potent, I also played once Anvil Strike against an Ironjaw at 1500 points, my aetherwings blocked the charge of his gore gruntas, that was not fun for him. It's not really an indication of my level, but I won last year's AOS contest in my GW (over 6 or 7 games). The only time I faced a heavy MW generating army, it was against the IJ player so I'm biased. First time was with anvilstrike, It was really easy for me but I gave him the win because I once activated the longstrikes with my general out of range, and the second time, I totally ran over him with a COS list. He rand directly into my bunker, didn't focus the 20 PG, so his MAx Krusha and 6 gore guntas were dead T1. HE couldn't get to my heroes because of the PG bunker. I've yet to face DoK, KO, LRL (obviously) or anything strong shooting wise. Edited July 7, 2020 by Maturin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Turragor said: I think what I'm mainly getting when I play against some of the tougher list matchups, is a feeling of stretching every bit of fibre of a faction - squeezing juice till there's no juice left - just to play on equal terms. That is, for me, kind of fun. I earn nearly all victories I have (even with a B.S. support hero elimination list like Starcast :P) because if I mistakes victory turns quickly to defeat. Talking about that Stormwinged thingy, I did it once against my local GW and he wasn't happy about it AT ALL. :D. So I said to myself "meeeh I can win without it". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juicy Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, Maturin said: Talking about that Stormwinged thingy, I did it once against my local GW and he wasn't happy about it AT ALL. :D. So I said to myself "meeeh I can win without it". haha, i have somewhat the same experience with doing starcast stuff last year. I did run 2 stardrakes cause i thought it would be fun to starcast everything to dead with double rains. But after 2 tournaments tabling a lot of fights i felt a bit hollow cause the mechanic was so boring to play with. its almost as easy as sit back and kill al the hero's turn 1/2 and mop up the rest of the army. No i know that in the new meta things arent so easy and i make it sound it was tournament winning and it was not but it still felt super boring after a few games. I rebuild my army to be the underdog skyborne slayers and having less wins but a lot more fun. And im getting really good at the game making tactical calls or playing for the middle tables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubyandwells Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Turragor said: I've played them in almost every tournament I want to enjoy because they stretch the brain so much - plus I'm a slow painter Were you the one who put up the Stardrake + Prime Time list on The Honest Wargamer last year? If so, thank you! Rob streamed a game with that list, and it was love at first sight. Played variations on the theme from Sep 2019-Feb 2020. So much fun. Edited July 8, 2020 by scrubyandwells 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turragor Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, scrubyandwells said: Were you the one who put up the Stardrake + Prime Time list on The Honest Wargamer last year? If so, thank you! Rob streamed a game with that list, and it was love at first sight. Played variations on the theme from Sep 2019-Feb 2020. So much fun. Yeah I played against Eels and Gotrek and I would have had a better chance if I hadnt made 2 silly decisions which was against my own strat when I set up - under pressure at the streaming table My opponent was a great player too. I think the most fun I had during the game was when I took out his Akhelian King with the prime. It was a "you can't target him to shoot him!" moment countered by "Well I'm targetting the ground beside him here actually". We played competitive but understanding which I love! No hard feelings, no double checking the opponents measurements for charges/ deepstrike blocking etc Edited July 8, 2020 by Turragor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubyandwells Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Turragor said: Yeah I played against Eels and Gotrek and I would have had a better chance if I hadnt made 2 silly decisions which was against my own strat when I set up - under pressure at the streaming table My opponent was a great player too. I think the most fun I had during the game was when I took out his Akhelian King with the prime. It was a "you can't target him to shoot him!" moment countered by "Well I'm targetting the ground beside him here actually". We played competitive but understanding which I love! No hard feelings, no double checking the opponents measurements for charges/ deepstrike blocking etc Yeah I remember that moment re: Prime taking out the Akhelian King. You were 100% right on the rule: he's just picking a visible point to rain down a comet. If an Akhelian King happens to be by that point...well...sucks to be him. Edited July 8, 2020 by scrubyandwells Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yondaime Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 On 6/26/2018 at 4:50 PM, The Wanderer said: So I don't get it, unless I'm missing something Solbright is literally just a Lord-Arcanum with a different spell for 20pts cheaper. Firestrike doesn't look worth the cost at all. Plus the Tauralon face is weird. Soulblight has the autocast command ability, while the arcanum has the +1 to hit if i recall correctly, its a big difference in how you play While firestrike suffer the same problem of the other named heroes, all of them has to be used in hammers of sigmar (go figure) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucur Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Aventis gets an extra attack, returns wounds in melee on a 5+ and heals a wound a turn. I'd argue that' worth 20pts. Also it's the only way to get both a tauralon and a foot Arcanum out of the box, if i'm not mistaken ^^ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memnoch Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 It looks like I will soon be the proud owner of two stardrakes due to my imminent ever advancing age checkpoint, so I'm looking into lists that allow me to field both on the table. I've come up with this, but I'd appreciate feedback from you more experienced generals to tell me if this could work or if I'm way off course here. Lord-Celestant on Stardrake (500) general Drakesworn Templar (420) 3x5 Liberators (270) Lord-Castellant (120) Knight-Incantor (120) 6x Desolators (570) This would be 2000 points on the nose. I'm including the Incantor in there for some minimal protection against spells, but perhaps that's too little to matter and a Knight-Heraldor for the run-and-charge on the Desolators would be more useful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizrah Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals - Stormhost: Hammers of Sigmar Leaders Gavriel Sureheart (120) Knight-Azyros (100) - General - Ward aura - Artifact: Enemy missile hit reroll 6 Lord-Ordinator (140) - HoS artifact Battleline 5 x Liberators (90) - Warhammer & Shield - 1x Grandhammers 5 x Liberators (90) - Warhammer & Shield - 1x Grandhammers 5 x Liberators (90) - Warhammer & Shield - 1x Grandhammers Units 5 x Sequitors (120) - Stormsmite Mauls and Soulshields - 3x Stormsmite Greatmaces 5 x Sequitors (120) - Stormsmite Mauls and Soulshields - 3x Stormsmite Greatmaces 10 x Evocators (420) 5 x Evocators (210) Artillery Celestar Ballista (110) Celestar Ballista (110) Celestar Ballista (110) Battalions Cleansing Phalanx (120) Extra CP - 50 Total: 2000 / 2000 Extra Command Points: 2 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 131 This looks nice now! 15 Evocators shielded with ward and hit aura. Big scary charge and ballistas to kill things. Have to test this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Nizrah said: This looks nice now! 15 Evocators shielded with ward and hit aura. Big scary charge and ballistas to kill things. Have to test this. Why separate the 15 evos in 2 units ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Memnoch said: It looks like I will soon be the proud owner of two stardrakes due to my imminent ever advancing age checkpoint, so I'm looking into lists that allow me to field both on the table. I've come up with this, but I'd appreciate feedback from you more experienced generals to tell me if this could work or if I'm way off course here. Lord-Celestant on Stardrake (500) general Drakesworn Templar (420) 3x5 Liberators (270) Lord-Castellant (120) Knight-Incantor (120) 6x Desolators (570) This would be 2000 points on the nose. I'm including the Incantor in there for some minimal protection against spells, but perhaps that's too little to matter and a Knight-Heraldor for the run-and-charge on the Desolators would be more useful. Go to Starcast thread. You'll have all the replies over there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizrah Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 26 minutes ago, Maturin said: Why separate the 15 evos in 2 units ? Battalion lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Nizrah said: Battalion lol Oh Yeah, I'm daft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, Nizrah said: Battalion lol yeah but the battalion is doing nothing for you (being meant to buff sequitors, of which you have two min-size units + the evos are going in the sky and drop somewhere far away...). You could swap 2x5 sequitors for 1x3 castigators, go hailstorm battery (still does nothing but ends up being cheaper) and save some points for additional support heroes or the fourth ballista 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) Chaos chariots are pooping themselves : https://is2.4chan.org/tg/1594208286026.jpg Better than longstrikes : Edited July 8, 2020 by Maturin 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizrah Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 27 minutes ago, Marcvs said: yeah but the battalion is doing nothing for you (being meant to buff sequitors, of which you have two min-size units + the evos are going in the sky and drop somewhere far away...). You could swap 2x5 sequitors for 1x3 castigators, go hailstorm battery (still does nothing but ends up being cheaper) and save some points for additional support heroes or the fourth ballista The point is good but i like having more bodies on the board and CP im able to deploy more unit from the sky 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 I threw some dices yesterday and today. To my great surprise a blob of judicators with "Bless weapons" prayer on, is quite powerful. This is all before rerolls or modificators, so hit on 3+. 11 series thrown. 16 regular shots + 4 shockbolt bow (3 hit on 3s, one hits on 2s) : 26 hits 6 of them being D2 34 hits 14 of them being D2 22 hits 8 of them being D2 23 8 33 10 26 4 31 10 19 7 21 2 15 6 26 8 24 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Nizrah said: The point is good but i like having more bodies on the board and CP im able to deploy more unit from the sky 😜 sure, but you could have at least the same number of units with hailstorm battery and: -castigators -aetherwings -130 points left (although probably not enough to have 14 units and 4 ballistas + LO + gavriel + evos in the sky) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwabbele Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 FML, just dug up a box of vanguard hunters, worst sce kit ever. so many mold lines 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwabbele Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Maturin said: I threw some dices yesterday and today. https://aos-statshammer.herokuapp.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, schwabbele said: https://aos-statshammer.herokuapp.com/ Cheers, throwing dices is fun though Actually, @schwabbele that tool lacks the option for the D6 hits. I'll have to continue throwing dices! Edited July 8, 2020 by Maturin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 47 minutes ago, Maturin said: Cheers, throwing dices is fun though Actually, @schwabbele that tool lacks the option for the D6 hits. I'll have to continue throwing dices! well you can give the shockbolt bow 1d6 attacks, for the purposes of the multiplication it's the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 59 minutes ago, schwabbele said: FML, just dug up a box of vanguard hunters, worst sce kit ever. so many mold lines oof, is this also true of the Vanguard Chamber SC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Marcvs said: well you can give the shockbolt bow 1d6 attacks, for the purposes of the multiplication it's the same Didn't see that. Added thanks. Is there the option for D2 on exploding dice ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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