schwabbele Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 50 minutes ago, ledha said: Also they aren't fun to face You are a noble person Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naprapaten Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Hi! I've wanted to try a Stardrake list for a while now. What do you guys think of this: Leaders: Lord Celestant on Stardrake, general, staunch defender, smouldering helm, storm-winged Lord-Castellant Knight incantor, speed of lightning Lord Arcanum, celestial blades Knight heraldor Battleline: Liberator 5 Judicator 5x2 Other: Desolators 4 Endless spells Everblaze comet 2k on the nose with the new points changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledha Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Naprapaten said: Hi! I've wanted to try a Stardrake list for a while now. What do you guys think of this: Leaders: Lord Celestant on Stardrake, general, staunch defender, smouldering helm, storm-winged Lord-Castellant Knight incantor, speed of lightning Lord Arcanum, celestial blades Knight heraldor Battleline: Liberator 5 Judicator 5x2 Other: Desolators 4 Endless spells Everblaze comet 2k on the nose with the new points changes. there isn't a lot of sense to take a lord arcanum if you don't take sequitors as battleline. Take a knight incantor instead, or, if you really want the -1 to hit, the lord relictor. It give you enough points to replace the desolators by fulminators, who are the heraldor's best friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naprapaten Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, ledha said: there isn't a lot of sense to take a lord arcanum if you don't take sequitors as battleline. Take a knight incantor instead, or, if you really want the -1 to hit, the lord relictor. It give you enough points to replace the desolators by fulminators, who are the heraldor's best friend. Mainly taking him for the cycle of storm, d3 arcane bolt. But i get what you are saying. Cheers for the feedback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionheart Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Hello evryone! Sorry if my english is not perfect but i'll try my best! I'm a new player of AOS and i just bought the SC! Stormcast Vanguard, and i want to slowly build a 2k list around that models, for the moment i aim to be atleast competitive in the local tourneys. The list is: Allegiance: Anvils of the Heldenhammer Lord Aquilor: General, Deathly Aura, Wind Runner Knight Azyros: Soulthief Knight Venator: Luckstone Lord Castellant Lord Relictor: Translocation Neave Blacktalon 3 x 5 Vanguard Hunters (storm sabre?) 3 x 3 Vanguard Raptors with Longstrike Crossbow 2 x 3 Aetherwings 1 x 3 Palladors (Starstrike Javelin?) Battalion: Blacktalon's Shadowhammers I saw lot of lists using the celestant-prime instead of the battalion, is it rly much better? Thanks for the attention and for the help (I did the math on the new GBH2019, should be an exact 2k points list) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucur Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Blacktalon's Shadowhammer has no points in the GHB, might be illegal? Especially as Anvils you want to combine the Longstrikes to one squad. Also remember Neave is always Hammers of Sigmar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionheart Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 40 minutes ago, Lucur said: Especially as Anvils you want to combine the Longstrikes to one squad. Oh u opened my eyes there, ofc it's alot better, now i understand! thx mate 42 minutes ago, Lucur said: Also remember Neave is always Hammers of Sigmar. Do u think it's better play it as knight-Zephyros? (maybe with the soul thief artefact) 42 minutes ago, Lucur said: Blacktalon's Shadowhammer has no points in the GHB, might be illegal? So, at the end of the day, it's just better to play the celestant prime version of this list? Really thx for the answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Anyone make good use of thundercats? What would ve a decent list to build around some thundercats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeElectrid Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Places of Arcane Power: The same except wizards no longer capture. Just heroes. So bye bye units which are wizards. More Evocator nerfs 👍 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJetski Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, PrimeElectrid said: Places of Arcane Power: The same except wizards no longer capture. Just heroes. So bye bye units which are wizards. More Evocator nerfs 👍 That's probably for the best, it was seriously unfair to armies without easy access to WIZARDs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 50 minutes ago, PrimeElectrid said: Places of Arcane Power: The same except wizards no longer capture. Just heroes. So bye bye units which are wizards. More Evocator nerfs 👍 is this from the GHB19? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeElectrid Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJetski Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Battleline units can hold objectives in Duality of Death, and it has a really funky deployment. This makes a block of sequitors a little bit more worthwhile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuroyume Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Hi everyone, I'm gonna be playing a game against a Blade sof Khorne army for our local league and I'm trying to think of a list to run. It's a 1000 point game, using GHB2018 still. The Battleplan is Take and Hold. I've been thinking of running a heavily defensive list to turtle up at my objective and hope I can go second in the last turn and try to translocate and charge into his objective. With that in mind, this is the idea I'm curretly mulling. My main concern is that it has zero MW protection and I don't think I could handle a Bloodthirster. Quote Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals Mortal Realm: Hysh Lord-Castellant (100) - Mystic Light (Artefact): Lantern of the Tempest Lord-Arcanum (180) - General - Spell: Azyrite Halo Lord-Relictor (100) - Prayer: Translocation 20 x Sequitors (400) - Stormsmite Mauls and Soulshields - 9x Stormsmite Greatmaces 5 x Judicators (160) - Skybolt Bows - 1x Shockbolt Bows Total: 940 / 1000 Extra Command Points: 1 Allies: 0 / 200 Wounds: 67 Can I get some opinions/ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeElectrid Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Anyone able to sort me out with an invite to the SCE WhatsApp group? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepa Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, kuroyume said: Hi everyone, I'm gonna be playing a game against a Blade sof Khorne army for our local league and I'm trying to think of a list to run. It's a 1000 point game, using GHB2018 still. The Battleplan is Take and Hold. I've been thinking of running a heavily defensive list to turtle up at my objective and hope I can go second in the last turn and try to translocate and charge into his objective. With that in mind, this is the idea I'm curretly mulling. My main concern is that it has zero MW protection and I don't think I could handle a Bloodthirster. Can I get some opinions/ideas? I'd suggest dropping the Castellant and swapping in Gavriel Sureheart. Take the Hammers of Sigmar Stormhost. That gives you a 6+ FNP Save against unsaved wounds as well as mortal wounds. Gavriel will let you make the charge on the turn you teleport, but if you want the absolutely guarantee the teleport, you'd probably want to sub the Relictor out for a Vexillor. You may as well downgrade the Judicators to Liberators, and add a Ballista while still using the old points values, because it can whittle down the BT from 36" away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nos Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 On 6/20/2019 at 5:46 PM, ledha said: Do you think it's feasible with a celestant on stardrake instead of a drakesworn ? I mean probably. I took Templar with Tempest Axe to further mess about my opponent on top of all the other non conventional nonsense. The main reason a Stardrake is in there is the +1 to cast, and to have a big foot print to protect the Wizards. The only difference with the Celestant is the Thundershield and Command Ability. You can give both the same artifacts, both have same no of wounds etc. Celestant might have better attacking weapons but it’s marginal. In a list like this where the real damage comes from stupid abilities and spells I’d rather just take more screening units than splash out for an economy class upgrade to the Stardrake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 How does this look for a 1k run? I have a Castellant, LAoGC, and 9 Castigators to play around with as well. I was thinking about dumping the Evos for the castis to be ranged heavy since this list is a bit static. Lord-Arcanum (160)- GeneralLord-Relictor (100)- Prayer: TranslocationKnight-Incantor (140)5 x Sequitors (130)- Stormsmite Mauls and Soulshields- 3x Stormsmite Greatmaces5 x Sequitors (130)- Stormsmite Mauls and Soulshields- 2x Stormsmite Greatmaces5 x Evocators (220)Celestar Ballista (110)Total: 990 / 1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhamslam Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, CommissarRotke said: How does this look for a 1k run? I have a Castellant, LAoGC, and 9 Castigators to play around with as well. I was thinking about dumping the Evos for the castis to be ranged heavy since this list is a bit static. Lord-Arcanum (160)- GeneralLord-Relictor (100)- Prayer: TranslocationKnight-Incantor (140)5 x Sequitors (130)- Stormsmite Mauls and Soulshields- 3x Stormsmite Greatmaces5 x Sequitors (130)- Stormsmite Mauls and Soulshields- 2x Stormsmite Greatmaces5 x Evocators (220)Celestar Ballista (110)Total: 990 / 1000 Dump the ballista and the relictor and fill in a unit of longstrikes or judicators with a unit of aetherwings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Blade Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Anyone else shocked Evos on Dracolines didn't drop like 40 points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerOfSigmar Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Black Blade said: Anyone else shocked Evos on Dracolines didn't drop like 40 points? Well.... they cannot, if they do, the evos on foot and dracothian guard will become useless in many cases.... I think they are good at 300 already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJetski Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Black Blade said: Anyone else shocked Evos on Dracolines didn't drop like 40 points? No, they're a really good unit for their cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Blade Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, HammerOfSigmar said: Well.... they cannot, if they do, the evos on foot and dracothian guard will become useless in many cases.... I think they are good at 300 already I disagree and I think the Drac guard drops were needed and improved them. 300 of less damage than foot evos. MW spam is so prevalent I never take them at 300 Edit: even without MW their armor is close to tissue paper for their cost Edited June 21, 2019 by Black Blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepa Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, PJetski said: No, they're a really good unit for their cost. Honestly I agree with this, but what I'm wondering now PJetski, is; what do you think is better in a CV Dracoline list? A Knight Incantor with Cogs, or a Knight Incantor with Purple Sun and some other endless spell like Palisade or Swords? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerOfSigmar Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, Black Blade said: I disagree and I think the Drac guard drops were needed and improved them. 300 of less damage than foot evos. MW spam is so prevalent I never take them at 300 Edit: even without MW their armor is close to tissue paper for their cost I think you underestimate the paws, on a successful charge with the LAoCD, nearby the paws gives 10 attack with 2+ 3+ -1 D3 each, that's some pretty huge for me, you can further stack the empower and CV's command ability on it to make it more deadly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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