Televiper11 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) I was thinking of replacing his with the CSL on Manticore -- great anti-horde spell, can fly, decently tanky, and can cast Oracular on self. Still, losing Daemonic is really going to hurt. Anyone know any other allied wizards we can add for a quick buff? I fear our army is getting binned next GHB. Edited December 9, 2019 by Televiper11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbarker Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 53 minutes ago, Televiper11 said: I was thinking of replacing his with the CSL on Manticore -- great anti-horde spell, can fly, decently tanky, and can cast Oracular on self. Still, losing Daemonic is really going to hurt. Anyone know any other allied wizards we can add for a quick buff? I fear our army is getting binned next GHB. YeH, I'm currently searching for a good allied wizard too. With all the new updates they're really stripping all the keywordless stuff out. Maybe some new unannounced StD unit will fill the role partially. I quite liked Sayl the faithless, but his teleport spell got hit with the only StD units hammer when we got out first update! I wouldn't worry about being binned off. Was a huge step being put into the ghb this time so feels wasted effort to just pull them out again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Krungharr Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I think the best allied things for Azgorh will be ones that debuff the enemies, like Festus the Leechlord. Just not seeing a great shining future for Azgorh however. I'm wondering if I should even unload my other AoS Forgeworld units for my Gloomspite Gitz. If FW isn't going to support AoS at all in the future then it might be unwise to have any from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbarker Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Lord Krungharr said: I think the best allied things for Azgorh will be ones that debuff the enemies, like Festus the Leechlord. Just not seeing a great shining future for Azgorh however. I'm wondering if I should even unload my other AoS Forgeworld units for my Gloomspite Gitz. If FW isn't going to support AoS at all in the future then it might be unwise to have any from them. Given the pace that GW release things, for the past few years there hasn't been a whole bunch of "new" from FW comparatively aside from that ludicrous khorne dragon. I know it's not their main game so that's fair enough and I've noticed a few things are slipping from the site too. But really, all that's changed here is a spell for a single unit that we used as an ally anyways. A damn good one, but it's hardly a prophecy of doom for us I love my legion, have about 2000 points of core units and can throw in bubbles of many different allies for different purposes so hopefully there are many more fun games to be had - given that if everything else keeps getting buffed as we don't it'll be an uphill battle, but hey what's new there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Televiper11 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Taking any good allies suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbarker Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 32 minutes ago, Televiper11 said: Taking any good allies suggestions. Some of my favourites... Block of plaguebearers with festus / spoilpox scrivenver to objective holding + stickiness Tzanngor shaman + skyfires for mobility and grabbing Chimera - for funnies Swarm of furies - for funnies Skarr bloodwrath / skullgrinder - randomness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I saw some running the Slannesh Epitome. Seems like a good choice. 2 spells. resilient, fast. 200 points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbarker Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 51 minutes ago, Ben said: I saw some running the Slannesh Epitome. Seems like a good choice. 2 spells. resilient, fast. 200 points. That's the one I couldn't remember! Also chaos gargants are kinda fun. Random, but fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FERRUMITE Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Hey @Ben given you are good buddies with GW, any chance you can put a bug in their ear about maybe adding some synergies with Legion of Azgorh and Slaves to Darkness? I'd love if you could take units from both without paying the ally tax ahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekamouse Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, FERRUMITE said: Hey @Ben given you are good buddies with GW, any chance you can put a bug in their ear about maybe adding some synergies with Legion of Azgorh and Slaves to Darkness? I'd love if you could take units from both without paying the ally tax ahah LoA could/should have some Mercenary Units available for any Chaos I would think. But, yes they should have some Slaves to Darkness tie. Just finished the Warcry Anthology and reading Scourge of Fate now and they are mentioned in both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Krungharr Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 10 hours ago, Ben said: I saw some running the Slannesh Epitome. Seems like a good choice. 2 spells. resilient, fast. 200 points. If I could somehow kitbash it with really old Slaanesh bits, I'd run one. Gotta match my old bighat Chaos Dwarves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medivouk Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I plan on running the epitome. A daemon prince of khorne would also be a good allied choice ( activation wars and half rate run and charge will hurt some of the meta armies.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Televiper11 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I'm leaning Be'lakor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeopoldKamirov Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Would you say this is a fair list for a first time with the army? I'm not looking for something overpowered but something that will be able to hold its own against armies like Nighthaunt and Legions of Nagash in semi-casual/semi-competitive play. It's a perfect 2000/2000 list. Leaders Bull Centaur Taur'ruk w/ Grotesque and Armour of Bazherak the Cruel Daemonsmith w/ Darkforged Weapon Battleline Infernal Guard Fireglaives (30) Infernal Guard Fireglaives (30) Infernal Guard Fireglaives (30) Artillery Magma Cannon Magma Cannon Other K'daaai Fireborn (12) Endless Spell Soulscream Bridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Krungharr Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Televiper11 said: I'm leaning Be'lakor What's he rumored to be doing in his new rules? I always liked him and what he could do but thought it was a few too many points. I'm definitely getting a psychic cat! I hope those are only like 140-160 points. 13 minutes ago, LeopoldKamirov said: Would you say this is a fair list for a first time with the army? I'm not looking for something overpowered but something that will be able to hold its own against armies like Nighthaunt and Legions of Nagash in semi-casual/semi-competitive play. It's a perfect 2000/2000 list. Leaders Bull Centaur Taur'ruk w/ Grotesque and Armour of Bazherak the Cruel Daemonsmith w/ Darkforged Weapon Battleline Infernal Guard Fireglaives (30) Infernal Guard Fireglaives (30) Infernal Guard Fireglaives (30) Artillery Magma Cannon Magma Cannon Other K'daaai Fireborn (12) Endless Spell Soulscream Bridge Ooh, that's a bunch of Fireglaives! They'll certainly be able to prevent Nighthaunts from deepstriking from the Underworld if you position right. Protect the cannons as they'll be your main hope of nuking those pesky support heroes, whithout whom they fold pretty quickly in my experience. Not sure about what Legions of Nagash do besides having a bunch of skeletons who maybe can be resummoned? Nagash is nasty though, I've not beaten him yet. Have you considered getting a pet cat, and bitsbashing a pet Skullcracker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeopoldKamirov Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, Lord Krungharr said: What's he rumored to be doing in his new rules? I always liked him and what he could do but thought it was a few too many points. I'm definitely getting a psychic cat! I hope those are only like 140-160 points. Ooh, that's a bunch of Fireglaives! They'll certainly be able to prevent Nighthaunts from deepstriking from the Underworld if you position right. Protect the cannons as they'll be your main hope of nuking those pesky support heroes, whithout whom they fold pretty quickly in my experience. Not sure about what Legions of Nagash do besides having a bunch of skeletons who maybe can be resummoned? Nagash is nasty though, I've not beaten him yet. Have you considered getting a pet cat, and bitsbashing a pet Skullcracker? I've asked a couple people and they kept saying to get more Fireglaives but nothing concrete about building the list. This would be my first AoS army so I'm not sure what's standard. I know the leaders and K'daai are popular choices but other than that it's up in the air. A skullcracker looks fun but I think I will hold off on kitbashing for the game yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Televiper11 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 15 hours ago, Lord Krungharr said: What's he rumored to be doing in his new rules? I always liked him and what he could do but thought it was a few too many points. https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls//aos_Belakor_eng.pdf To my mind, Be'lakor flying in a triangular wedge formation with a unit of K'daai could wreck hell on an opponent's back field or be a serious objective grabber (leaving the K'daai behind if need be); as well, The Dark Master ability can counter a lot of those activation war shenanigans and I like the Enfeeble spell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Televiper11 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) I'm playing a friendly, beer-and-pretzels style 2.5K Open Play game in January against my friend's Khorne army. Here is my list, including Be'lakor: Allegiance: Legion of AzgorhMortal Realm: AqshyBull Centaur Taur'ruk (160)- General- Trait: Grotesque- Artefact: Armour of Bazherak the CruelShar'tor the Executioner (220)Daemonsmith (100)- Darkforged Weapon- Artefact: Thermalrider CloakSorcerer (120)- AlliesBe'Lakor, Chaos Daemon Prince (280)- Allies3 x Bull Centaur Renders (180)3 x Bull Centaur Renders (180)3 x Bull Centaur Renders (180)6 x K'Daai Fireborn (280)Iron Daemon War Engine (180)Magma Cannon (140)Magma Cannon (140)Magma Cannon (140)Execution Herd (160)Balewind Vortex (40)Total: 2500 Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 400 / 400Wounds: 126 My plan is basically having two attack wedges: the Centaur charge and the Be'lakor/K'daai fly with Sorcerer on the Balewind and the Daemonsmith babysitting the artillery (Thermalrider allowing Smith to fly around and buff different artillery units if necessary). I'll be low on bodies so relying on the Magma's to snipe heroes and reduce hordes. Edited December 11, 2019 by Televiper11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeopoldKamirov Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 What about you all, what's your typical list like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Krungharr Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 8 hours ago, Televiper11 said: I'm playing a friendly, beer-and-pretzels style 2.5K Open Play game in January against my friend's Khorne army. Here is my list, including Be'lakor: Allegiance: Legion of AzgorhMortal Realm: AqshyBull Centaur Taur'ruk (160)- General- Trait: Grotesque- Artefact: Armour of Bazherak the CruelShar'tor the Executioner (220)Daemonsmith (100)- Darkforged Weapon- Artefact: Thermalrider CloakSorcerer (120)- AlliesBe'Lakor, Chaos Daemon Prince (280)- Allies3 x Bull Centaur Renders (180)3 x Bull Centaur Renders (180)3 x Bull Centaur Renders (180)6 x K'Daai Fireborn (280)Iron Daemon War Engine (180)Magma Cannon (140)Magma Cannon (140)Magma Cannon (140)Execution Herd (160)Balewind Vortex (40)Total: 2500 Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 400 / 400Wounds: 126 My plan is basically having two attack wedges: the Centaur charge and the Be'lakor/K'daai fly with Sorcerer on the Balewind and the Daemonsmith babysitting the artillery (Thermalrider allowing Smith to fly around and buff different artillery units if necessary). I'll be low on bodies so relying on the Magma's to snipe heroes and reduce hordes. Dump that puny sorcerer and take the Artillery Train! Then you won't have to have your Daemonsmith nearby to max out their range. Actually you won't need the Balewind either, his Ash Storm is 36". I didn't realize Belakor was 280 points! I hope he comes down a bunch in the new StD tome. Then you could fit in another hero to use your third artefact if you get the second battalion, which is very useful. But I've been hankering to try this type of Azgorh force. In a really big game it would be cool to use all 3 battalions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Krungharr Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 hours ago, LeopoldKamirov said: What about you all, what's your typical list like? I favor magma cannons in the Artillery Train, with 3 or 4 units of 10 Fireglaives for battleline, then with Skullcracker Engines to hammer forth, maybe a Tauruk as general but not absolutely necessary. Castellan and Standard Bearer are pretty decent support dudes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbarker Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 6 hours ago, LeopoldKamirov said: What about you all, what's your typical list like? My last list that won me a game looked like this! Was a lot of fun I thought too. Big Stumpeh.PDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCar09 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 There is no news on the issue of discontinuity? I was reading about the discontinuity of tamurkhan horde and it has me worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Krungharr Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 No news is good news I guess? At least Tamurkhan could easily be a Karkadrak lord, unless he's too huge (haven't seen in real life). I wish I still had my plague toads and nurglings. Those are good Azgorh allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeopoldKamirov Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 20 hours ago, Lord Krungharr said: No news is good news I guess? At least Tamurkhan could easily be a Karkadrak lord, unless he's too huge (haven't seen in real life). I wish I still had my plague toads and nurglings. Those are good Azgorh allies. At least they seem to be an army that can still be transferred to other roles like Cities of Sigmar of the worst happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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