Kaleb Daark Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 so, what do we think the creature that the reaver is fighting in the background on the left is going to be? Look at hits tail... and then look at the latest rumour engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenshin620 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Kaleb Daark said: so, what do we think the creature that the reaver is fighting in the background on the left is going to be? Look at hits tail... and then look at the latest rumour engine I think it's that "mega dog/mini manticore" in the video 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleb Daark Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I really like the gladiator style guys, looking forward to seeing how they fit in to the AoS storyline, who they are, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charleston Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 A mixed unit of Beasts and Beastmasters would be an awesome flair unit for Darkoath, too. From now on: Theorycrafting on Units we don´t even know we may get one day: Due to AoS Rulesetting it would be easy to include having the same profile for the master and beasts and creating diversity by weapon loadout and rules. It would be important to keep in mind that we currently have spells to sniper out single models so the survival of the packmaster shouldn´t decide about how usefull this unit may be. Or, if, it should be a theme similar to the Slaughterbrute were loosing the master means switching modes for the unit. What would be really a tricky point is morale tied to the packmaster. Loosing him leading to a drop down to 3-4 Bravery would be deadly for such a unit. On the other hand it would be a more rewarding target for such sniping-spells and abilities and could improve the feeling and usage of such spells (improving battletomes by creating valid enemies and so on) as long as it doesn´t punish the fielding player too much. Therefore a mechanic like on the slaughterbrute which shuts down normal damage for potential, but more unreliable, mortal wounds. Like "If this Unit doesn´t contain a Beastmaster do not make any attacks with it´s meele weapons during the Combat Step . Instead roll a dice for each enemy model within 1" of this unit. On a roll of X+ this models unit suffers a Mortal Wound". As Downside the Beastmaster could allow rerolls and wield a potent weapon which would be lost after being slain. This would give such a hypothetical unit an interesting touch in gameplay as the controlling player as the opponent could trigger some neat decisions. Do I wan´t to dish out better normal damage? Or do i require rather Mortal Wounds? How can I sacrifice my Beastmaster when needed? Do I want as an enemy to kill the beastmaster to tune down the offensive potential of the unit but risk it to surpass my defense as mortal wound? Do I want to hurt this unit and risk the beastmaster to die? This would be potential to some preatty amazing game design here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkwell Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Wru dark oath release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenshin620 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 On 3/18/2019 at 11:38 AM, inkwell said: Wru dark oath release? I imagine summer. Herald armies seem to be around half a year apart (summer last year was SCE/NH, then GG was January) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frowny Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Do people reckon the new winged deamons are new furies? Or some other sort of undivided deamon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenshin620 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 43 minutes ago, Frowny said: Do people reckon the new winged deamons are new furies? Or some other sort of undivided deamon? I thought they are going to be harpies, chaos beasts but not daemons. But who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charleston Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 The new Black Legion Dice would serve great as StD Ones. I tought some of you may like ithttps://www.games-workshop.com/de-DE/Chaos-Space-Marines-Dice-Set-2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenshin620 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) Ok they ARE Furies! And evil ducks! AND OGORS/CHAOS DUARDIN! Chaos Dwarfs coming back! (for a warband...) Other guys look cool. Apparently their fluff is that they're forgers of arms and armor, hailing from Chamon. Edited March 28, 2019 by kenshin620 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 If this is where the new StD/Darkoath is aiming at, I'm not super happy as it doesn't look good side by side with my StD army . (but I don't mean they look bad, they look great) Lets wait and see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xasz Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Damn, canadian geese got a model in AoS now. 😮 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith01 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 I love everything they have shown! Can't wait to see what comes in the Starter set. I really hope all the non chaos mini's are new and interesting like what they have shown so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenshin620 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 7 hours ago, GeneralZero said: If this is where the new StD/Darkoath is aiming at, I'm not super happy as it doesn't look good side by side with my StD army . (but I don't mean they look bad, they look great) Lets wait and see... Keep in mind that each warband is "unique", each hails from a different realm I assume. There are 6 warcry factions, so 6 different looks, much like the necromunda gangs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMB Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 On 3/28/2019 at 3:39 AM, kenshin620 said: AND OGORS/CHAOS DUARDIN! Chaos Dwarfs coming back! (for a warband...) Other guys look cool. Apparently their fluff is that they're forgers of arms and armor, hailing from Chamon. THIS is an awesome RED ARMOUR, not the blades of khorne ones I would like to paint NON khornite warriors in this colours 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaz Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Hey fellow servants of the dark gods, I’m considering jumping into Darkoath/Slaves to darkness, and I’ve got a Warshrine. Now I’m also a Khorne player, so I had initially been considering turning my Warshrine into a blade of Khorne one, but because of the new releases, I’m considering making it Undivided, and jumping into this faction, especially with the new Darkoath aesthetic they have going on. When do you guys think GW will finally release them? I had been hoping adeptucon, but nothing so far (Absolutely thrilled at adeptucon still, but Slaanesh and Fyreslayers still ain’t my thing). And if I do jump in, should I grab the relatively old models like Chosen or chaos warriors or marauders? Or are they in danger of being phased out? One thing I feel these guys will get are lots of Chariots. In the Warqueen book, there was a heavy focus on Darkoath Chariots i also noticed a single Chaos leader uniting and leading multiple varied tribes, each with their own beliefs and interpretation of the Chaos gods that were unique and different. What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenshin620 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 I imagine summer, July-August time line. So then each "half year" (give and take a month or so) has a Herald Army release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambot1231 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 11 hours ago, Kaz said: Hey fellow servants of the dark gods, I’m considering jumping into Darkoath/Slaves to darkness, and I’ve got a Warshrine. Now I’m also a Khorne player, so I had initially been considering turning my Warshrine into a blade of Khorne one, but because of the new releases, I’m considering making it Undivided, and jumping into this faction, especially with the new Darkoath aesthetic they have going on. When do you guys think GW will finally release them? I had been hoping adeptucon, but nothing so far (Absolutely thrilled at adeptucon still, but Slaanesh and Fyreslayers still ain’t my thing). And if I do jump in, should I grab the relatively old models like Chosen or chaos warriors or marauders? Or are they in danger of being phased out? One thing I feel these guys will get are lots of Chariots. In the Warqueen book, there was a heavy focus on Darkoath Chariots i also noticed a single Chaos leader uniting and leading multiple varied tribes, each with their own beliefs and interpretation of the Chaos gods that were unique and different. What do you guys think? Slaves to Darkness lack a murder machine at the moment. The closest they get are chosen with either Khorne or SLaanesh buffs. Their other units provide nice anvils but are outclassed on offense level. My chaos army is composed of a core of chaos warriors taking up battleline and then depending on what God I devote to I take the best offensive units from that faction. If you wanted to go purely slaves to darkness I would invest in knights, chosen, chaos warriors and chaos lord on mount. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charleston Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 On 4/2/2019 at 2:48 PM, Kaz said: Hey fellow servants of the dark gods, I’m considering jumping into Darkoath/Slaves to darkness, and I’ve got a Warshrine. Now I’m also a Khorne player, so I had initially been considering turning my Warshrine into a blade of Khorne one, but because of the new releases, I’m considering making it Undivided, and jumping into this faction, especially with the new Darkoath aesthetic they have going on. When do you guys think GW will finally release them? I had been hoping adeptucon, but nothing so far (Absolutely thrilled at adeptucon still, but Slaanesh and Fyreslayers still ain’t my thing). And if I do jump in, should I grab the relatively old models like Chosen or chaos warriors or marauders? Or are they in danger of being phased out? One thing I feel these guys will get are lots of Chariots. In the Warqueen book, there was a heavy focus on Darkoath Chariots i also noticed a single Chaos leader uniting and leading multiple varied tribes, each with their own beliefs and interpretation of the Chaos gods that were unique and different. What do you guys think? Well, Slaves Alligience currently is all about heroes killing heroes and monsters, which is quite fun but not really what wins you games. Especially as the reward for a killing blow can be turning your heroes into a chaos spawn. Our only big hitters are Choosen, which are expensive in $ and points, and Knights, which really depend on buffs and the charge to be effective. You could also build some Units of Warriors with Greatblades and Helbards to fight with 2 rows, but currently there are quite many spells which can break the formation and kill half of your unit if you are unlucky. As already said: The best bet is going for another alligience. The Mark of Chaos allows this, which makes us really shine. Nurgle has some great spells and abilities to make big warrior blobs faster, Khorne with the new battletome also gives us some potential threads like more attacks, better anti-magic, mortal wounds and rend. Tzeentch has also some nice sheningans, same manner with Slaanesh. Allying single heroes from other alligiences can also be quite helpfull, f.E. the Lord of Slaanesh of Daemon Mount together with the Lord of Chaos on Daemonic Mount can wreck serious havoc in a list with some Chaos Knights with Glaives. You could get the unit to hit with 2 Attacks at 2+/3+ -1 2 and fight twice for 3CP and with a Sorcerer Lord on Daemonic Mount this could be even improved with rerolls to 1 for hit/wound rolls. Thats the best theorycrafted Deathstar I came up so far for StD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hounsou83 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Hello fellow Slaves ! I've just came up with a new list and it have run very well , yesterday i played a matched game against one of the best player here in the area ( a sylvaneth player ) and managed to win at the end of the fourth turn ! Slave to darkness aliance with blades of khorne ally ! Have a look !( the artefact of the lord on manticore is the sword with rend -3 ) Allegiance: Slaves to DarknessMortal Realm: UlguLeadersChaos Lord on Daemonic Mount(140)- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch Chaos Lord on Manticore (250)- General- Blade & Lance- Trait: Master of Deception - Artefact: Dimensional Blade - Mark of Chaos: KhorneChaos Sorcerer Lord (160)- Runesword- Mark of Chaos: TzeentchBloodstoker (80)- AlliesBattleline30 x Chaos Warriors (480)- Halberd & Shield- Mark of Chaos: Khorne1 x Chaos Chariots (80)- Greatblades- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch10 x Chaos Knights (320)- Chaos Glaives - Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch Units2 x Chaos Gorebeast Chariots (200)- Greatblades - Mark of Chaos: Khorne2 x Skull Cannons (280)- AlliesTotal: 1990 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 360 / 400Wounds: 156 What do you think ? The two skull cannons has been incredible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosUndivided Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 I was reading over the warscrolls for the 2 Darkoath heros (queen and conan dude) and reading the warscrolls for the Shadespire warband and i see no indication that Darkoath units will be able to take marks like the rest of StD can. Most StD have a bonus right on the warscroll... Has anyone else thought this might be the case? I could see them being their own sub faction that doea not operate the way rest of army does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernalslayer Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 13 hours ago, ChaosUndivided said: I was reading over the warscrolls for the 2 Darkoath heros (queen and conan dude) and reading the warscrolls for the Shadespire warband and i see no indication that Darkoath units will be able to take marks like the rest of StD can. Most StD have a bonus right on the warscroll... Has anyone else thought this might be the case? I could see them being their own sub faction that doea not operate the way rest of army does. Maybe they don't want to worry about any new Darkoath units to be abusable in Mono-God armies. Perhaps a future Battletome includes an Allegiance ability that allows them to pick marks at set-up in their own army. Really looking forward to see what is in store for Slaves to Darkness/Everchosen/Darkoath in general! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosUndivided Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Infernalslayer said: Maybe they don't want to worry about any new Darkoath units to be abusable in Mono-God armies. Perhaps a future Battletome includes an Allegiance ability that allows them to pick marks at set-up in their own army. Yeah this is whats leading me to bet they don't work the same. I think its also the reason why StD is lack luster right now... Too hard to balance across multiple factions it could be used along side so everything is kinda generic and sub par. It just makes their job easier as rules writers, not to mention that each faction is updated at seprate times making it more likely to have unintended combos/unbalance. If Darkoath is really to stand out and have interested playstyle i think it will have to be self contained. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riavan Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 They could always have different warscrolls for each mortal God army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAR Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 On 4/17/2019 at 12:39 AM, ChaosUndivided said: I was reading over the warscrolls for the 2 Darkoath heros (queen and conan dude) and reading the warscrolls for the Shadespire warband and i see no indication that Darkoath units will be able to take marks like the rest of StD can. Most StD have a bonus right on the warscroll... Has anyone else thought this might be the case? I could see them being their own sub faction that doea not operate the way rest of army does. they could go down the god battalion route as BoC have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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