MrRoff Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ashes said: Sorry if this got asked already but with the Ethereal rule that ignores Save roll modifiers do our Nighthaunt units still get the bonus of cover (+1 Save)? Sadly no. The rule specifies that both positive and negative modifiers to the save are ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relic456 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) @Ashes Nope, they ignore all Save roll modifiers, positive or negative. Edited January 8, 2019 by relic456 MrRoff beat me to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashes Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 OK, thanks for the quick replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miguel_fernan Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ashes said: Sorry if this got asked already but with the Ethereal rule that ignores Save roll modifiers do our Nighthaunt units still get the bonus of cover (+1 Save)? Was already answered and I cant delete post so sorry for the post! Edited January 8, 2019 by miguel_fernan Question was already answered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianob Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 On 12/23/2018 at 2:49 PM, CanHammer-darren said: @ianob what did you say again were top 3 leaders for nighthaunt? Was it reikenor, spirit torment and guardian of souls with mortality? I can’t remember if I gave a top x specifically, but in a nutshell my top leaders are the GoS (both), KoS, and Reikenor depending what your army is doing. Spirit Torment is also good and Arkhan is a great ally too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmorley21 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, ianob said: I can’t remember if I gave a top x specifically, but in a nutshell my top leaders are the GoS (both), KoS, and Reikenor depending what your army is doing. Spirit Torment is also good and Arkhan is a great ally too. I'm surprised the VL ally didn't make it for you. Also, has anyone looked at the list that Ben Savva is taking to UK Masters? It'a very interesting - I can't wait to see how it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRoff Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, dmorley21 said: I'm surprised the VL ally didn't make it for you. Also, has anyone looked at the list that Ben Savva is taking to UK Masters? It'a very interesting - I can't wait to see how it does. Oh? Do you care to share his list on here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kozokus Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Quite an interesting one. I am eager to see it work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neffelo Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 That is an incredibly unique list. I am curious to hear how the shrieker host plays out. The only models I have not picked up for my Nightahunt have been the Harridans. The list is pretty thematic though, a lot of banshees! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undeadly Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Just finished two games, and so far, Spirit hosts have been very, very impressive in both games, and they have found a place in my list; They have proven to be a very staunch unit that will simply not die when supported. First game was against a fellow Nighthaunt player, and they survived both a Bombardment from Lady O and Reiknor. By the end of turn 4, out of 9 Spirit Hosts, 1 still remained, which was rather impressive; they were supported by a Black Coach in that scenario. Second game proved them even more so, as two units of 3 model strong Spirit Hosts were able to hold up both a Tree Lord and Durthu, while bringing them down a tier after the first attack. They continued to hold the enemy until about turn 4, when Durthu finally got 2 attacks in and rolled a 11 for damage. In this scenario, they were supported by a Lord Executioner/w Lord of Geists. But still, very VERY impressive! My only question is, should I bother keeping Execution horde? Or should I drop the Executioner, give the LoG trait to another hero, and mob the Hosts into one unit? 4 hours ago, ianob said: I can’t remember if I gave a top x specifically, but in a nutshell my top leaders are the GoS (both), KoS, and Reikenor depending what your army is doing. Spirit Torment is also good and Arkhan is a great ally too. I would really love to hear your opinion on why the Spirit Torment and KoS(On steed, correct?) are good. I'm trying to figure out to play Nighthaunt are, as well as getting a hold on how to properly play them. I also have a problem with playing Nighthaunt offensively; mainly, I can't seem to kill units to claim objectives. I feel like Reikenor or Olynder would be a great source of damage, and help actually do damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Chainghasts! What do people think? Seeing as they are one of the only "shooting" units that Death can bring in at least okay numbers and has some rend, as well as some excellent anti-horde with the "X attacks for each model within 2" " mechanic. Was considering them as allies to my Soulblight to add some range/ anti-horde. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kozokus Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, Charlo said: Chainghasts Are paper tigers. If memory serves they need to have 8 attack each to equal bladegheists in dammage which is a lot. And yet they only are move6. Don't expect too much from them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Even with the shooting taken into account too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmorley21 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 10 hours ago, Undeadly said: I would really love to hear your opinion on why the Spirit Torment and KoS(On steed, correct?) are good. I'm trying to figure out to play Nighthaunt are, as well as getting a hold on how to properly play them. I also have a problem with playing Nighthaunt offensively; mainly, I can't seem to kill units to claim objectives. I feel like Reikenor or Olynder would be a great source of damage, and help actually do damage. I'm not the person you're asking, but both KoS and the ST are great support for the more killy units in NH (Blades, Reapers, Harridans, Banshees). I don't think they're great support for Spirit Hosts, which you said you were running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kozokus Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Charlo said: Even with the shooting taken into account too The shooting part is interestingly rare but it is very unreliable by being d3 hit and 4+ to hit. Don't count on it. For 80 points this is a melting pot of a lot of bizarre things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianob Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 18 hours ago, dmorley21 said: I'm surprised the VL ally didn't make it for you. Also, has anyone looked at the list that Ben Savva is taking to UK Masters? It'a very interesting - I can't wait to see how it does. Oh yeah the VL is great too I both hate and love Ben's list. Shrieker Host is exceedingly powerful, but I think the list matches up poorly against the top end of the meta - Stormcast, Eels, Death and Sylvaneth. Ben clearly doesn't think so, though, and I'm really looking forward to seeing how he gets on with this at masters (not the results, but how his games actually go, you can go 6-0 with a list and know it was luck or 0-6 with a list and still feel it's great). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACBelMutie Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Just one question. Can a Guardian of Souls in Grand Host of Nagash alligance use any of the Nighthaunt spells or just the spell he has in his warscroll? Greetings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahn-ket Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 24 minutes ago, ACBelMutie said: Just one question. Can a Guardian of Souls in Grand Host of Nagash alligance use any of the Nighthaunt spells or just the spell he has in his warscroll? Greetings Only the spells mentioned on his warscroll because he missed the necessary keywords to get LoN spells and he isn't part of a nighthaunt alliance so he hasn't access to NH spells 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACBelMutie Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, Ahn-ket said: Only the spells mentioned on his warscroll because he missed the necessary keywords to get LoN spells and he isn't part of a nighthaunt alliance so he hasn't access to NH spells Thanks for the answer. My last question about GoS is about the alternative version, GoS with Mortality Glass. I have read this post Can I use this warscroll instead of the GoS with Nightmare Lantern warscroll? Is it valid? Greetings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahn-ket Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, ACBelMutie said: Thanks for the answer. My last question about GoS is about the alternative version, GoS with Mortality Glass. I have read this post Can I use this warscroll instead of the GoS with Nightmare Lantern warscroll? Is it valid? Greetings You can use him in LoN but he didn't get extra spells like the lantern one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undeadly Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 How is everybody feeling about Drops? As a Nighthaunt player, I'm having a rough time getting a army down to less than 5 drops, and honestly, I am feeling a little skeptical towards battalions in general; How often do you run battalions, and which ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACBelMutie Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Ahn-ket said: You can use him in LoN but he didn't get extra spells like the lantern one The lantern is good, but a +6" extra movement can be pretty nice for a Reapers unit for example. I have to think about it. Greetings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmorley21 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 5 hours ago, ianob said: Oh yeah the VL is great too I both hate and love Ben's list. Shrieker Host is exceedingly powerful, but I think the list matches up poorly against the top end of the meta - Stormcast, Eels, Death and Sylvaneth. Ben clearly doesn't think so, though, and I'm really looking forward to seeing how he gets on with this at masters (not the results, but how his games actually go, you can go 6-0 with a list and know it was luck or 0-6 with a list and still feel it's great). Yeah, I'm really curious to see how it plays. When I tried out Shrieker Host, I did things the other way... focused on Harridans and ran Myrmourns as tiny units. The Harridans are good (very underrated IMO), however in Shriker Host they really shine against horde units, and Reapers already do that well enough. Myrmourns can fill a much different role though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRoff Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 12 hours ago, ianob said: Oh yeah the VL is great too I both hate and love Ben's list. Shrieker Host is exceedingly powerful, but I think the list matches up poorly against the top end of the meta - Stormcast, Eels, Death and Sylvaneth. Ben clearly doesn't think so, though, and I'm really looking forward to seeing how he gets on with this at masters (not the results, but how his games actually go, you can go 6-0 with a list and know it was luck or 0-6 with a list and still feel it's great). Is there anywhere one can go to see these matches live? Are they broadcasted? Or is there anywhere to see them recorded? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianob Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, dmorley21 said: Yeah, I'm really curious to see how it plays. When I tried out Shrieker Host, I did things the other way... focused on Harridans and ran Myrmourns as tiny units. The Harridans are good (very underrated IMO), however in Shriker Host they really shine against horde units, and Reapers already do that well enough. Myrmourns can fill a much different role though. Harridans are pretty much just worse Bladegheists, so they get ignored (and rightfully so, their debuff needed to affect 1 higher bravery since power creep has made most things 7 now), but they are still great. With the battalion though you're not making a subpar choice since its the only choice! 4 hours ago, MrRoff said: Is there anywhere one can go to see these matches live? Are they broadcasted? Or is there anywhere to see them recorded? They're not being broadcast, it's being covered on instagram. Edited January 15, 2019 by ianob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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