Inferno Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 GW published new Cairn Wraith warscroll. No MW anymore. https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls//aos-warscroll-cairn-wraith-en.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keldaur Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Inferno said: GW published new Cairn Wraith warscroll. No MW anymore.https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls//aos-warscroll-cairn-wraith-en.pdf It can't be, it has the summoning spell. Edited June 27, 2018 by Keldaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keldaur Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 7 hours ago, kenshin620 said: I dunno, GW seems to be very allergic to dual kits these days. They didn't even make Namarti a dual kit (granted it was probably better since the legs are quite different). DoK ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahn-ket Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 I don't find it changed aside from the link which is posted so I don't if it's real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 That's the GA: Death Cairn Wraith entry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cyclop Owl Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 6 hours ago, stickybluetoffee said: Allegiance Abilities (from WHLive) -1 bravery to units within 6” of a Nighthaunt unit 6+ ignore wounds for a unit wholly within 12” of a hero Half of your units can be in the underworld. Auto arrive, but must arrive by turn 4 10”+ unmodified charge - immediately attack (and can then attack again later) New Command Ability for General. Remove a unit and set it up within 12” of general / more than 9” from enemy. - Nice touch, with quite a strong potential. - Would help our somewhat fragile heroes, and potentially be super annoying in the hands of a strong tactical player. - That’s borderline OP - I don’t quite understand the implications of this one. Can you specify? - Borderline OP again All in all, that would make the NH incredibly strong in close combat, and give them insane flexibility of engagement. I’m very curious to see where they end up in the meta, but my guess is they’ll be ranging from fairly to super competitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keldaur Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Cyclop Owl said: - I don’t quite understand the implications of this one. Can you specify? If you roll a 10+ withouth modifiers you get them to pile in and attack in the charge phase, so you can attack again in the combat phase. For people wondering, 10+ withouth modifiers is 1/6. Nice ability but too random to depend on it, command rerolls gets it on the 3/10 territory. The command skill seems very nice. The best thing i am seeing about nighthaunt is that all of them fly. You can screen any unit with chainrasps, and then charge/move/pile in above them. Also flying on small bases is very good with the new pile in rules, since it allows you to jump around even when you are in base to base. And no FT army wide was completely expected. And i am grateful, atleast we get some random fun and tactical tools. I wonder if we will be able to get more bravery debuffs through magic and/or artifacts (or command traits). Those debuffs get better and better now that inspiring presence isn't nearly as a strong as it was before because it is only a one time thing, rather than until your next hero phase. Edited June 27, 2018 by Keldaur 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 If those are true that might be some OP stuff right there. Auto arrive alone makes everything worth it and the rest is just icing on the cake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Syf Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) No frightful touch army wide is kind of annoying, it only ever occurred on a 6+ so was a nice little bonus to have against heavily armoured models. Chainrasps and glaivewraith Stalkers and spirit hosts have no rend either, other than the cool new models I'm starting to think I should have held off preordering the starter set. Oh well there's always ebay I suppose. Edited June 28, 2018 by El Syf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageBoss Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 33 minutes ago, El Syf said: No frightful touch army wide is kind of annoying, it only ever occurred on a 6+ so was a nice little bonus to have against heavily armoured models. Chainrasps and glaivewraith Stalkers and spirit hosts have no rend either, other than the cool new models I'm starting to think I should have held off preordering the starter set. Oh well there's always ebay I suppose. The 3 named characters have FT so we know its not an army rule. We have not seen the battletome warscroll cards. There could be changes for every single unit in the starter. This happened before with the old starter, and has already happened with Sequitors from the new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incineroar87 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Do we have any idea of what the Nighthaunt Allegiance abilities are yet or is there still rumours ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutrotSpume Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Malakithe said: If those are true that might be some OP stuff right there. Auto arrive alone makes everything worth it and the rest is just icing on the cake Sounds very powerful, I wonder if you need to be set up near a hero? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 2 hours ago, GutrotSpume said: Sounds very powerful, I wonder if you need to be set up near a hero? Hmm..that would tone it down a bit. We need to see the full wording Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuneBrush Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 15 hours ago, Inferno said: GW published new Cairn Wraith warscroll. No MW anymore.https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls//aos-warscroll-cairn-wraith-en.pdf Sorry to say that's an old Warscroll that Google has kept a link to. The current one (https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Downloads//ENG Cairn Wraith.pdf) is linked from the 2018 model where they updated it to have a round base (https://www.games-workshop.com/en-BE/Nighthaunt-Cairn-Wraith-2018). However, from the seem of things we're getting another one shortly! My crystal ball is that he'll get the re-roll hits against units of 5+ like the Grimghast reapers and possibly some kind of passive buff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 NH battletome is pre order tomorrow and available next week: the new battletome will include the cairn and tomb banshee updated warscroll. So, I guess the online warscroll will be updated at/after this release date (07/07) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keldaur Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 10 hours ago, Malakithe said: If those are true that might be some OP stuff right there. Auto arrive alone makes everything worth it and the rest is just icing on the cake What exactly do you think is OP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keldaur Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 hour ago, RuneBrush said: Sorry to say that's an old Warscroll that Google has kept a link to. The current one (https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Downloads//ENG Cairn Wraith.pdf) is linked from the 2018 model where they updated it to have a round base (https://www.games-workshop.com/en-BE/Nighthaunt-Cairn-Wraith-2018). However, from the seem of things we're getting another one shortly! My crystal ball is that he'll get the re-roll hits against units of 5+ like the Grimghast reapers and possibly some kind of passive buff. Command ability pls. I am starving for those. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuradin Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Seing as the boxed set includes 5 stalkers and 4 reapers instead of the more sensible 4 stalkers and 5 reapers (looking at min unit size), I guess you would have to modify one of the stalkers into a reaper. Does anyone have any good ideas on how to do this, preferably without using green stuff? Since the models are push fit I doubt we have many options and that rat face of the stalkers seem difficult to mod in any way.. The only thing that seems easy, although it won't look perfect, is to cut of the spear and turn it into a scythe by simply gluing it to the side instead of the top. What options are there to just mod it with paint? Making the reapers into a slightly different color.. would that suffice for a legal competitive list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahn-ket Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 35 minutes ago, Nuradin said: Seing as the boxed set includes 5 stalkers and 4 reapers instead of the more sensible 4 stalkers and 5 reapers (looking at min unit size), I guess you would have to modify one of the stalkers into a reaper. Does anyone have any good ideas on how to do this, preferably without using green stuff? Since the models are push fit I doubt we have many options and that rat face of the stalkers seem difficult to mod in any way.. The only thing that seems easy, although it won't look perfect, is to cut of the spear and turn it into a scythe by simply gluing it to the side instead of the top. What options are there to just mod it with paint? Making the reapers into a slightly different color.. would that suffice for a legal competitive list? You could use this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuradin Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Ahn-ket said: You could use this Noob here.. what's the difference between pitched battle and matched battle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahn-ket Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) Pitched battle profiles are the points for matched play tomorrow we have to profiles for the units in the soul wars box The Pic shows the points from the soul wars box in addition there would be a different pricing and min/max unit size for some of the units in the general's handbook 2018/nighthaunt battletome Edited June 28, 2018 by Ahn-ket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuradin Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 13 minutes ago, Ahn-ket said: Pitched battle profiles are the points for matched play tomorrow we have to profiles for the units in the soul wars box The Pic shows the points from the soul wars box in addition there would be a different pricing and min/max unit size for some of the units in the general's handbook 2018/nighthaunt battletome I'm sorry.. I had some trouble following you there. So when building a list for a tournament or just any game with a friend that involves objectives, do I use Pitched Battle profile? or do I use Generals handbook? Cause someone posted that min size for reapers was 5 in generals handbook.. That could have been wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahn-ket Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, Nuradin said: I'm sorry.. I had some trouble following you there. So when building a list for a tournament or just any game with a friend that involves objectives, do I use Pitched Battle profile? or do I use Generals handbook? Cause someone posted that min size for reapers was 5 in generals handbook.. That could have been wrong though. Normally you use the actual general's handbook in combination with your battletome if you play matched play but until you have right amount of models you could use the points I've posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuradin Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Just now, Ahn-ket said: Normally you use the actual general's handbook in combination with your battletome if you play matched play but until you have right amount of models you could use the points I've posted Okay, I've got you! But that would mean I only have 2-3 days to use the points you posted! Something already leaked about min unit size in general's handbook. But I guess I will jsut have to wait and see if that leak is correct or not. Still, if it is correct I would still like ideas on how to modify the stalkers into reapers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevvermore Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, Nuradin said: I'm sorry.. I had some trouble following you there. So when building a list for a tournament or just any game with a friend that involves objectives, do I use Pitched Battle profile? or do I use Generals handbook? Cause someone posted that min size for reapers was 5 in generals handbook.. That could have been wrong though. Generals Handbook points are also called Pitched Battle Profiles. It’s just the name they use for Matched Play Points, unit sizes and battlefield roles. The thing here is that the profiles in the Soul Wars box set are different from those in the GHB. For example Reapers are min 4 here but min 10 in the GHB. If you can pick which one to use, then the box set unit sizes would actually be usable in Matched Play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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