grungolah Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 49 minutes ago, Darkfine said: 40 Skeletons makes for a whole lot of bubble wrap, just can’t physically get to them. I’m a-okay if the answer is “Nurgle can’t beat LoN before 1250-1500”, just figured I’d pose the question. I admit, I may have some Skaven blood running through these veins. Here's my thought on dirty Death tricks at low point values... Festus and Rustfang (140 points). Land Curse of the Leper and Rustfang on the same skeleton horde. They go to a 7+ save and (assuming I read the FAQ correctly) stay at 7+ if they are returned to the battlefield. Non-rend attacks increase wounds by 50%. Daemon general + Pestilent breath/Bountiful Swarm (cost of the general). This one is more finesse, but attempts to break a bubble wrap. Pestilent breath is used to thin the horde, bountiful swarm kills a specific model to create a "formation gap." The goal is to kill enough models (that have to be removed from the formation gap) that someone can get to the hero. Any wizard (100+ pts). Set the cycle to 5 every turn so that it is 6 every round. Pick off the necros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkfine Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Thanks for the replies! Keep in mind though I’d only have a single caster at most. On a side note I hate spells as a solution. The entire system is just Farkle with more consequences(depending on what type of Farkle you are playing). Admittedly most of that is due to the fact that I typically can’t get more than one spell a game to stick but that’s another problem entirely. As to the objective thing, that depends a lot on which one is being played and even still between 40 skeletons spread out an inch apart and dogs it isn’t hard for the LoN player to compete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erasercrumbs Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Blackspine said: well, then in that case he's sticking to one area. Most objective games that blob of necros will not be able to out pace you. Tie them up and sit on objectives. I'm still getting used to being able out-pace other armies as Nurgle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erasercrumbs Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Blackspine said: well, then in that case he's sticking to one area. Most objective games that blob of necros will not be able to out pace you. Tie them up and sit on objectives. Multipost, please delete. Edited June 28, 2018 by erasercrumbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erasercrumbs Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Blackspine said: well, then in that case he's sticking to one area. Most objective games that blob of necros will not be able to out pace you. Tie them up and sit on objectives. Multipost, please delete. Edited June 28, 2018 by erasercrumbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decker_cky Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Looking at a decent blight cyst with Glottkin and some plague monks, I don't think there's much flexibility: Allegiance: NurgleLeadersHarbinger of Decay (160)Lord of Blights (140)The Glottkin (420)Battleline10 x Putrid Blightkings (320)10 x Putrid Blightkings (320)5 x Putrid Blightkings (160)Units40 x Plague Monks (240)- Woe-staveBattalionsBlight Cyst (220)Total: 1980 / 2000Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 172 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal4m4nd3r Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) I will never write a *competetive* 2k Nurgle list without first adding gutrot spume and ten Kings. In my mind, when I’m formulating lists I just keep it to 1540 because the 460 is that automatic for me. Edited June 28, 2018 by sal4m4nd3r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasant Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, sal4m4nd3r said: I will never write a *competetive* 2k Nurgle list without first adding gutrot spume and ten Kings. In my mind, when I’m formulating lists I just keep it to 1540 because the 460 is that automatic for me. after reading this Im going to order gutrok but do you usually get your charges with them? Edited June 29, 2018 by peasant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal4m4nd3r Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, peasant said: after reading this Im going to order gutrok but do you usually get your charges with them? 8” charge is 42% chance on 2d6. I have a reputation in my group for getting this charge off a lot so lol Two scenarios. He and his band of merry men come in. The Kings make the EIGHT inch charge (plus one to charge on Kings) and do work. I always roll the Kings charge first to make sure if anyone gets in its them. Or you opponent doesn’t have units near the edge or you fail the charge. On heir turn, Your opponent then either ignores them (never happens and they would be foolish to) or diverts a chunk of their force to deal with them. Good luck with that! And now you have added a wrinkle to any plans they had. Its also nice because if your opponent moves away from dirty mike and the boys, then you can move and run, drop a tree if need be and charge! Or now you could summon some demons into their backfield! He just opens up so many options by setting up anywhere on the perimeter. Counter charging an alpha strike, alpha strike of your own. contesting objectives. Ten kings has enough models to thump and stay, but also a decent sized footprint to be able to come in most places. Edited June 29, 2018 by sal4m4nd3r 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasant Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 great, I have an 1k game soon, Ill use gutrok +5PB. I never thought what to do if I fail the charge, summoning in the backyard Is such a good idea! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decker_cky Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 1 hour ago, sal4m4nd3r said: 8” charge is 42% chance on 2d6. I have a reputation in my group for getting this charge off a lot so lol Two scenarios. He and his band of merry men come in. The Kings make the EIGHT inch charge (plus one to charge on Kings) and do work. I always roll the Kings charge first to make sure if anyone gets in its them. Or you opponent doesn’t have units near the edge or you fail the charge. On heir turn, Your opponent then either ignores them (never happens and they would be foolish to) or diverts a chunk of their force to deal with them. Good luck with that! And now you have added a wrinkle to any plans they had. Its also nice because if your opponent moves away from dirty mike and the boys, then you can move and run, drop a tree if need be and charge! Or now you could summon some demons into their backfield! He just opens up so many options by setting up anywhere on the perimeter. Counter charging an alpha strike, alpha strike of your own. contesting objectives. Ten kings has enough models to thump and stay, but also a decent sized footprint to be able to come in most places. If you're sinking 500 pts into this gambit, you should be buying the chromatic cogs to boost that charge to a 6+ needed on 2d6 (72%). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorokyl Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 2 hours ago, sal4m4nd3r said: 8” charge is 42% chance on 2d6. I have a reputation in my group for getting this charge off a lot so lol Two scenarios. He and his band of merry men come in. The Kings make the EIGHT inch charge (plus one to charge on Kings) and do work. I always roll the Kings charge first to make sure if anyone gets in its them. Or you opponent doesn’t have units near the edge or you fail the charge. On heir turn, Your opponent then either ignores them (never happens and they would be foolish to) or diverts a chunk of their force to deal with them. Good luck with that! And now you have added a wrinkle to any plans they had. Its also nice because if your opponent moves away from dirty mike and the boys, then you can move and run, drop a tree if need be and charge! Or now you could summon some demons into their backfield! He just opens up so many options by setting up anywhere on the perimeter. Counter charging an alpha strike, alpha strike of your own. contesting objectives. Ten kings has enough models to thump and stay, but also a decent sized footprint to be able to come in most places. Um you can not drop a tree or summon at gutrot since he is not s daemon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avvien Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Just use your command point for "Forward to Victory" and those kings will get to re-roll their charge if needed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decker_cky Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 42 minutes ago, Avvien said: Just use your command point for "Forward to Victory" and those kings will get to re-roll their charge if needed Good call. With chromatic cogs and forward to victory, you can make the trick surprisingly reliable. That said, there's a bunch of other similarly reliable alpha strikes available to other armies so defending against those alpha strikes is going to be a necessary skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkfine Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 2 hours ago, sorokyl said: Um you can not drop a tree or summon at gutrot since he is not s daemon... Did it get an errata or something? Book says nurgle hero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dew Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 And good luck ordering Gutrot, hes been out of stock FOREVER it seems like. I keep checking every few days and nope.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avvien Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 He's in stock right this very second as far as I can tell? Epidemius and the Maggoth Lords however, are out of stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dew Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Must be a US thing. Still shows out of stock for me ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughwyeth Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 11 hours ago, sal4m4nd3r said: As of right now, you can use Glotkin's command ability as many times as you have command points. Simply incredible to lack of fundamental common sense on the part of the rules team. I will be exploiting the HELL out of this oversight until it is corrected. Cant wait for my blightkings to roll up with 60 attacks. maybe add in the plague cyst for re-rolling every missed hit roll. This doesn't strike me at all as a loophole/lack of common sense. It's a huge investment on your part to get this working. I'm not sure it would be worth the command points you're spending when there's likely a much more potent combo you could get from multiple character's command abilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locien83 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Wow..... New Forgeworld warscrolls are up. Haven't had a lot of time to go through them all... but the Exalted Great Unclean one took a massive hit!! Unless I am missing something I have no idea why you would play it over the standard one anymore... https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/PDF/fw_warscrolls/aos-monstrous-arcanum.pdf 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasant Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 this thread is very inspiring, so I will play at 1k gutrok+5 PB , and reroll if necessary with forward to victory ( because IT will difficult to set aside 60pts for the cogs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasant Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) one silly question does the feculent gnarlmaw count as an unit of i deploy IT in the enemy territory (so I get extra 3 CP)? thx my english is... Edited June 29, 2018 by peasant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avvien Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Nope, the Gnarlmaw counts as scenery, and not as a unit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Why am I even playing Khorne? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Maggotkin of Nurgle went full AoS3. Congrats with your Maggotkin of Nurgle Tamurkhan's Horde armies.https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Tamurkhans-Horde-2018 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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