peasant Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Change on plaguebearers! While 10+ -1 to hit! That with locus of fecundity and munificient wanderers. Do we got some of the toughest infantry in Game? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRRecio Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 21 minutes ago, peasant said: Change on plaguebearers! While 10+ -1 to hit! That with locus of fecundity and munificient wanderers. Do we got some of the toughest infantry in Game? Its crazy! it takes 2 rend to get plaguebearers back to their 5+ save and I no longer feel bad about taking plaguebearers in unts of 20. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmonRa Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 3x20 PBs is a fantastic base with a scriviner and a sloppity. Very excited to start building lists around that core. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gristlegut Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) Nevermind....I found my answer. Edited July 2, 2021 by Gristlegut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gristlegut Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 What is the rationale behind this change: Pages 86, 87, 94, 95, 96 and 97 – Damage Tables Change ‘Wounds Allocated’ to ‘Wounds Suffered’. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarband Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Hi i whant to start maggotkin but i need help to build list what units are strong? What is our core ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasant Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 43 minutes ago, Skarband said: Hi i whant to start maggotkin but i need help to build list what units are strong? What is our core ? One month ago: blightkings spam! But they Lost too much so I think plaguebearers are Now a lot better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 2 hours ago, peasant said: One month ago: blightkings spam! But they Lost too much so I think plaguebearers are Now a lot better I second this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domowoj Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 But Plaguebearers aren't any killier than they were; they simply doubled-down on defensibility. Blightkings are still a better choice for getting work done against enemy units, even without Blightcyst, right? Plaguebearers hold their ground while Blightkings can actually kill things...sorta... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRRecio Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 4 hours ago, Domowoj said: But Plaguebearers aren't any killier than they were; they simply doubled-down on defensibility. Blightkings are still a better choice for getting work done against enemy units, even without Blightcyst, right? Plaguebearers hold their ground while Blightkings can actually kill things...sorta... The buffs to spoilpox and sloppity do some WORK. Now that you no longer need to focus on adding to saves with it being easier to get +1 saves, you can go a lot more offensive with the buffs. Same with the plague drones. Not to mention munificent wanderers feels so much better with a constant 4+ save. Its really up to you how you build, but plaguebearers are definitely a solid choice rn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry89 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Hey all i have read all theses changes to our nurgle hero’s and plaguebearers but I can’t find the updated warscrolls at all. Could someone point me in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRRecio Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, Perry89 said: Hey all i have read all theses changes to our nurgle hero’s and plaguebearers but I can’t find the updated warscrolls at all. Could someone point me in the right direction. The FAQ https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/ contains the plaguebearer changes while the AoS app contains the herald buffs that came from the broken realm update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nehetar Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Am finally about to play my first 3.0 game Here is the list and army pics (no studeo worthy photography :þ) Allegiance: Nurgle- Host of Chaos: Blessed Sons- Grand Strategy: Hold the Line- Triumphs:LeadersHarbinger of Decay (145) in Warlord- General- Command Trait: Foul Conqueror- Artefact: The WitherstaveRotbringer Sorcerer (120) in Warlord- Lore of Malignance: Blades of PutrefactionChaos Sorcerer Lord (115) in Warlord- Lore of Foulness: Plague SquallChaos Lord (120) in Vanguard- Daemonbound War-flail- Artefact: Blotshell BileplatePlague Priest (85) in Vanguard- Universal Prayer Scripture: CurseBattleline10 x Putrid Blightkings (330) in Warlord- Reinforced x 15 x Putrid Blightkings (165) in Hunters of the Heartlands5 x Putrid Blightkings (165) in Hunters of the Heartlands5 x Putrid Blightkings (165) in Hunters of the Heartlands20 x Chaos Warriors (400) in Vanguard- Hand Weapon & Shield- Reinforced x 1Units20 x Plague Monks (170) in Vanguard- Foetid Blades- 1x Standard Bearers- 1x Plague Harbingers- Reinforced x 1Endless Spells & InvocationsThe Burning Head (20)Core BattalionsWarlordVanguardVanguardHunters of the HeartlandsTotal: 2000 / 2000Reinforced Units: 3 / 4Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 190 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refiasgna Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Which list do you think is better? Allegiance: Nurgle- Host of Chaos: Munificent Wanderers- Grand Strategy: Predator's Domain- Triumphs:LeadersGreat Unclean One (350) in Battle Regiment- General- Plague Flail & Massive Bilesword- Command Trait: One Last Gift- Artefact: The Endless Gift- Lore of Virulence: Glorious AfflictionsSloppity Bilepiper Herald of Nurgle (130) in Warlord- Artefact: MucktalonSpoilpox Scrivener Herald of Nurgle (125) in WarlordHorticulous Slimux (225) in WarlordBattleline30 x Plaguebearers (330) in Battle Regiment- Reinforced x 220 x Plaguebearers (220) in Battle Regiment- Reinforced x 120 x Plaguebearers (220) in Battle Regiment- Reinforced x 1Units3 x Plague Drones (195) in Battle Regiment3 x Plague Drones (195) in WarlordCore BattalionsWarlordBattle RegimentAdditional EnhancementsArtefactTotal: 1990 / 2000Reinforced Units: 4 / 4Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 134 _________________ Allegiance: Nurgle- Host of Chaos: Droning Guard- Grand Strategy: Dominating Presence- Triumphs:LeadersGreat Unclean One (350) in Warlord- General- Bile Blade & Doomsday Bell- Command Trait: Rotwing Commander- Artefact: The Witherstave- Lore of Virulence: Favoured PoxesSloppity Bilepiper Herald of Nurgle (130) in Warlord- Artefact: Cloak of FliesSpoilpox Scrivener Herald of Nurgle (125) in WarlordRotigus (345) in Battle Regiment- Lore of Virulence: Glorious AfflictionsBattleline20 x Plaguebearers (220) in Battle Regiment- Reinforced x 120 x Plaguebearers (220) in Battle Regiment- Reinforced x 120 x Plaguebearers (220) in Warlord- Reinforced x 1Units6 x Plague Drones (390) in Battle Regiment- Reinforced x 1Core BattalionsWarlordBattle RegimentAdditional EnhancementsArtefactTotal: 2000 / 2000Reinforced Units: 4 / 4Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 132 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamezorz Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 6 x Plague drones have to deal with coherency rules. So it might not be the best to take. Haven't tried myself yet, just an observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibob45 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 I like the second list a lot, but I would probably split the plague drones into 2 units of 3 models. In fact I've been hesitating for the last few days between this exact list and replacing Rotigus with Verminlord Corruptor + Endless spell or chaos spawn. I will play a few games with each to see how it fares Regarding the first list, I prefer blocs of 20 for plaguebearers now that they have been changed with new FAQ. I quite like the sculpt of Slimux, but not a big fan of his warscroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibob45 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Also why not Munificent Wanderers in the second list and what about Hold the Line for Grand Strategy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refiasgna Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Bibob45 said: Also why not Munificent Wanderers in the second list and what about Hold the Line for Grand Strategy? I was having doubts about the subfaction too. It may be more interesting to use munificent wanderers + endless gift. It needs some testing. About the grand strategy I just include the first I read. Don't look much into it. It is better dominating presence or master of beasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nehetar Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, Nehetar said: Am finally about to play my first 3.0 game Here is the list and army pics (no studeo worthy photography :þ) Allegiance: Nurgle- Host of Chaos: Blessed Sons- Grand Strategy: Hold the Line- Triumphs:LeadersHarbinger of Decay (145) in Warlord- General- Command Trait: Foul Conqueror- Artefact: The WitherstaveRotbringer Sorcerer (120) in Warlord- Lore of Malignance: Blades of PutrefactionChaos Sorcerer Lord (115) in Warlord- Lore of Foulness: Plague SquallChaos Lord (120) in Vanguard- Daemonbound War-flail- Artefact: Blotshell BileplatePlague Priest (85) in Vanguard- Universal Prayer Scripture: CurseBattleline10 x Putrid Blightkings (330) in Warlord- Reinforced x 15 x Putrid Blightkings (165) in Hunters of the Heartlands5 x Putrid Blightkings (165) in Hunters of the Heartlands5 x Putrid Blightkings (165) in Hunters of the Heartlands20 x Chaos Warriors (400) in Vanguard- Hand Weapon & Shield- Reinforced x 1Units20 x Plague Monks (170) in Vanguard- Foetid Blades- 1x Standard Bearers- 1x Plague Harbingers- Reinforced x 1Endless Spells & InvocationsThe Burning Head (20)Core BattalionsWarlordVanguardVanguardHunters of the HeartlandsTotal: 2000 / 2000Reinforced Units: 3 / 4Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 190 Had my game yesterday. I won the game pretty solidly and I wanted to share a few takeaways: Having a plague priest is awesome. It's like having the possibility of an extra blades of putrefaction on hand (picking curse of course) with a better cast value. And his mortal wound pings is solid in a list that does a lot of that all ready (wheel, spells, blessed sons explosion, blightkings aura, tree, plague monks). In my game I used the plague priests longer move with a guaranteed 6" run (he was in a Vanguard) to summon plaguebearers in the opposite end of the map. Blightkings are still good without the blight cyst. It is more about the weight of dice than before but they do work. Also the unit champion having 5w (counting as 2 models) did have an impact. And sticking most of them in a Hunters of the Heartlands battallion helped (no monstrous rampage against them) Blades of putrefaction still having the old wording goes great with all with attack. Used it on the warriors this game. Would be insane on the plague monks. Chaos warriors are fantastic with the new faq. Permanent +1 to save when 10+ models (occular visions after 10) makes them extremely durable. Harbinger of decay will have his aura up permanently. With the added command points and heroic actions it is always on and the aura works on all your non-skaven models (they are not mortal) Using Rally on the last member of a 10 man blightkings unit feels like cheating Having not a single monster in the list while still having the opportunity to ghetto-monster with the new spell is great. Denies a lot of WPs for your opponent. Having to stick the tree in your own deployment felt bad at first but it did mean that at no point in the game did I lose out on contagion points. Those are the thoughts of the top of my head. Hope it helps. Edited July 6, 2021 by Nehetar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refiasgna Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 13 hours ago, Jamezorz said: 6 x Plague drones have to deal with coherency rules. So it might not be the best to take. Haven't tried myself yet, just an observation. I don't know either, but either the oponent focus on them or 4 /5 plague drones fully buffed with +3 or +4 attacks could be quite devastating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gesundheit Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Hey Guys, we start a PTG Campaign in 2 weeks and I wanted to share my list and thoughts. We start with 600P and need to get another 100p after every third battle. So the next size is a 700P battle and so on. Allegiance: Nurgle- Host of Chaos: Munificent Wanderers- Grand Strategy: None Chosen- Triumphs: LeadersGreat Unclean One (350) in Warlord- Bile Blade & Doomsday Bell- Artefact: Mucktalon - Lore of Virulence: Favoured PoxesSloppity Bilepiper Herald of Nurgle(130) in Warlord- Artefact: The Endless Gift Battleline10 x Plaguebearers (110) in WarlordTotal: 590 / 750Reinforced Units: 0 / 1Allies: 0 / 100Wounds: 31 I want to start with this list. I think it’s a pretty solid start and I can improve with another 10 PG with the first new points. But what to do next? A Spoilpox would be nice, after that I would like to go for 3 plague drones. But I don’t know what to do next? Could you please help me because I want to win our campaign! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refiasgna Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 10 hours ago, Gesundheit said: Hey Guys, we start a PTG Campaign in 2 weeks and I wanted to share my list and thoughts. We start with 600P and need to get another 100p after every third battle. So the next size is a 700P battle and so on. Allegiance: Nurgle- Host of Chaos: Munificent Wanderers- Grand Strategy: None Chosen- Triumphs: LeadersGreat Unclean One (350) in Warlord- Bile Blade & Doomsday Bell- Artefact: Mucktalon - Lore of Virulence: Favoured PoxesSloppity Bilepiper Herald of Nurgle(130) in Warlord- Artefact: The Endless Gift Battleline10 x Plaguebearers (110) in WarlordTotal: 590 / 750Reinforced Units: 0 / 1Allies: 0 / 100Wounds: 31 I want to start with this list. I think it’s a pretty solid start and I can improve with another 10 PG with the first new points. But what to do next? A Spoilpox would be nice, after that I would like to go for 3 plague drones. But I don’t know what to do next? Could you please help me because I want to win our campaign! One thing, the endless gift is on the sloppity or the GUO? it should go to the GUO to make it super tanky. Another thing is that you don't have anything that can kill or the bodies to control points. I would may be go with more plague bearers, sloppity and scrivener, but at the end it depends more on what you want to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gesundheit Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 9 hours ago, Refiasgna said: One thing, the endless gift is on the sloppity or the GUO? it should go to the GUO to make it super tanky. Another thing is that you don't have anything that can kill or the bodies to control points. I would may be go with more plague bearers, sloppity and scrivener, but at the end it depends more on what you want to play. The problem is I need a tanky Warlord. Because if he dies it might be a problem. That’s why I want more bodies with the next points. I want to go a mix at 2000P with some mortals and some demons, cause it should be fluffy and not maxed out.😅👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refiasgna Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 5 hours ago, Gesundheit said: The problem is I need a tanky Warlord. Because if he dies it might be a problem. That’s why I want more bodies with the next points. I want to go a mix at 2000P with some mortals and some demons, cause it should be fluffy and not maxed out.😅👍 Well then you don't have to look for more. The GUO is the definition of tanky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gesundheit Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 The alternative List to start would be: Allegiance: Nurgle- Grand Strategy: None Chosen- Triumphs: Lord of Blights (135)Lord of Plagues (135)5 x Putrid Blightkings (165)5 x Putrid Blightkings (165)Total: 600 / 2000Reinforced Units: 0 / 4Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 54 I need to take the risk that my warlord dies, but I got much more damage. I would go for a harbringer next followed by demons.🤷🏼♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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