Vlagorescu Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) This will be my first go-to list to try out: Gristlemaw court Abhorrant Ghoul King on Terrorgheist (Always fights first, double pile-in with feeding frenzy, rerolling maw-attacks) Stack Ferocious hunger + black hunger) Cast mystic shield and Unholy vitality. - Mount trait: Gruesome bites - Blood feast Abhorrant Ghoul King on Terrorgheist (Grim garland, Monstrous vigour spell) - Mount trait: Gruesome bites - Myasmal Shroud Abhorrant Archregent - Blood feast Abhorrant Ghoul King - Spectral Host Abhorrant Ghoul King - Spectral Host Crypt ghast courtier 1x20 ghouls 1x10 ghouls 1x10 ghouls Corpse Cart Cogs Royal Family 2000p You just buff the ****** out of your general who fights first in EVERY combat phase. This means that you can pop Feeding frenzy on him after he has fought for the first time before any other unit has fought. Straight after that you pop feeding frenzy with your other GKoTG meaning that you get to fight 4 times with the two dragons before any other enemy unit gets activated! That is INSANE. Summon ghouls with your archregents/ghoul kings for free with the Throne. Save your two knight summons with the GKoTG's. Corpse cart for 80p helps you with your so important spells to go off. Batallion means that you can take an additional artefact, mount trait for your GKoTG nr 2 and an extra CP making it a 8 drop list. If your opponent outdrops you, you got enough chaff to screen your entire army. Give your non-general GKoTG the reroll saverolls with cogs and cast an additional spell. These monsters will hit HARD and massive amounts of MW with -2 bravery debuff and extra attacks, + 6's triggering new ones and re-rolling your maw. Super excited to try this 2k list. Played a 1k game yesterday with the new rules and my GKoTG with 4 extra attacks one-shotted a mawcrusha with ethereal amulet. I didn't even have to use Feeding Frenzy. Edited February 12, 2019 by Vlagorescu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake3991 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vlagorescu said: This will be my first go-to list to try out: Gristlemaw court Abhorrant Ghoul King on Terrorgheist (Always fights first, double pile-in with feeding frenzy, rerolling maw-attacks) Stack Ferocious hunger + black hunger) Cast mystic shield and Unholy vitality. - Mount trait: Gruesome bites - Blood feast Abhorrant Ghoul King on Terrorgheist (Grim garland, Monstrous vigour spell) - Mount trait: Gruesome bites - Myasmal Shroud Abhorrant Archregent - Blood feast Abhorrant Ghoul King - Spectral Host Abhorrant Ghoul King - Spectral Host Crypt ghast courtier 1x20 ghouls 1x10 ghouls 1x10 ghouls Corpse Cart Cogs Royal Family 2000p You just buff the ****** out of your general who fights first in EVERY combat phase. This means that you can pop Feeding frenzy on him after he has fought for the first time before any other unit has fought. Straight after that you pop feeding frenzy with your other GKoTG meaning that you get to fight 4 times with the two dragons before any other enemy unit gets activated! That is INSANE. Summon ghouls with your archregents/ghoul kings for free with the Throne. Save your two knight summons with the GKoTG's. Corpse cart for 80p helps you with your so important spells to go off. Batallion means that you can take an additional artefact, mount trait for your GKoTG nr 2 and an extra CP making it a 8 drop list. If your opponent outdrops you, you got enough chaff to screen your entire army. Give your non-general GKoTG the reroll saverolls with cogs and cast an additional spell. These monsters will hit HARD and massive amounts of MW with -2 bravery debuff and extra attacks, + 6's triggering new ones and re-rolling your maw. Super excited to try this 2k list. Played a 1k game yesterday with the new rules and my GKoTG with 4 extra attacks one-shotted a mawcrusha with ethereal amulet. I didn't even have to use Feeding Frenzy. Is there a points change for any of the monsters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlagorescu Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, jake3991 said: Is there a points change for any of the monsters? No, but the ghast, horror & flayer courtiers have all dropped 20p 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XReN Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Vlagorescu said: That is INSANE. Which is exactly what FEC are about! Going to use GKoTG and GKoZD on a tourney this sunday with the same idea 3 minutes ago, jake3991 said: Is there a points change for any of the monsters? Nope 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Looks tasty! keen to see how you get on. I think i'll be going for more of a KNIGHT centric build with some monsters and heroes to support. Waiting for the WSB to update before I list hammer though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Sorry Guys ... Sorry GW.... This tome seems utterly broken. These kind of crazy combos proove that there is no internal Playtesting. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XReN Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, rosa said: Sorry Guys ... Sorry GW.... This tome seems utterly broken. These kind of crazy combos proove that there is no internal Playtesting. If so, than it will change meta which is always good, also this army have pretty obvious counter match-ups so I doubt your statement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, rosa said: Sorry Guys ... Sorry GW.... This tome seems utterly broken. These kind of crazy combos proove that there is no internal Playtesting. The issue is, an army like FEC with only 13 units to choose from the book needs heavy synergy and powerful traits/ artefacts/ allegiance abilities to perform. It's still rather limited in scope. They do what they do well but are by no means broken. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Aye FEC have a very small roster of models - heck quite a few are just alternate heads on a model. That's not a diverse line to get excited about. So with few options to put on the table they've got have some good synergies because they don't have the variety to vary their tactics and composition the same ways others do. Basically FEC have very few tools in the box, so those that they do have have to perform really well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 49 minutes ago, Vlagorescu said: This will be my first go-to list to try out: Looks tough. With only one extra CP, though, I worry it would have trouble consistently getting hunger off on both monsters, let alone using their summons. And I'm not as convinced that 40 ghouls is enough chaff to keep everything safe from alpha rush lists. Definitely scary though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluttershy Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 50 minutes ago, jake3991 said: Straight after that you pop feeding frenzy with your other GKoTG meaning that you get to fight 4 times with the two dragons before any other enemy unit gets activated! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Thanks for the replies. I cant follow the argument though, that because of the limited rooster, the combos, traits and units need to be this uber. There are plenty of armies that are rather limited. I repeat: units with +250 attacks are nonsense... I am Happy that you guys receive new stuff though:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Vlagorescu said: That is INSANE. It is... I can hear the cries for the nerf-baton even befor I hold this dripping thing of filthy cheese in my hands!!! i‘m really Not sure how and what to feel, the ideas are just broken and I kinda hope it evens out, when I finally get to field some of those wreck-trains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRoff Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Is Abhorrant Archregent a named character? Or can you stack their command ability if you have more than 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katz Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, MrRoff said: Is Abhorrant Archregent a named character? Or can you stack their command ability if you have more than 1? not named, so stack away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluttershy Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, MrRoff said: Is Abhorrant Archregent a named character? Or can you stack their command ability if you have more than 1? His command ability is summoning, only once per battle, Ferocious Hunger (+attacks) is a cast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRoff Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Fluttershy said: His command ability is summoning, only once per battle, Ferocious Hunger (+attacks) is a cast Yeah, but what stops you from having 5 Abhorrant Archregants? And using all the command abilities the same turn, and having the throne terrain piece? 1000p+ worth of models added to your army. Edited February 12, 2019 by MrRoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluttershy Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just now, MrRoff said: Yeah, but what stops you from having 5 Abhorrant Archregants? And using all the command abilities the same turn, and having the throne terrain piece? 1000p+ worth of models added to your army. nothin'. your limitation is # of heroes / game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRoff Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just now, Fluttershy said: nothin'. your limitation is # of heroes / game Yeah, so max 6 heroes in a 2000p game, and you can add 1500p worth of models from the stacked command abilites. Not broken at all 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluttershy Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) gues it will be other mechanics, wich will become apparent as broken 😁 but hey, it's a "new" battletome, it has to be "uber" to sell those dusty fec models.. buisiness as usual.. enjoy your time, as long as it lasts RIP Ghoul Patrol & Majestic Horror Edited February 12, 2019 by Fluttershy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ierthling Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Thanks @XReN, I didn't realize "attack sequence" was just that single die! Definitely need to buy some more terrorgheists now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kairos Tejedestinos Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Vlagorescu said: You just buff the ****** out of your general who fights first in EVERY combat phase. This means that you can pop Feeding frenzy on him after he has fought for the first time before any other unit has fought. Straight after that you pop feeding frenzy with your other GKoTG meaning that you get to fight 4 times with the two dragons before any other enemy unit gets activated! That is INSANE. Never mind me, i read it wrong Edited February 12, 2019 by Kairos Tejedestinos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluttershy Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 48 minutes ago, Kairos Tejedestinos said: Never mind me, i read it wrong i still don't get it. - why is your general fighting first in every combat phase? - fight 4 times before any other unit gets activated? you can pop feeding frenzy after that unit has attacked, not before!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kairos Tejedestinos Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Fluttershy said: i still don't get it. - why is your general fighting first in every combat phase? - fight 4 times before any other unit gets activated? you can pop feeding frenzy after that unit has attacked, not before!? - A command trait. - It's your turn, if i am not mistaken the command trait is that you attack at the beginning of the combat phase rather than at the combat phase (i don't have the book), so you still get to choose which units attacks first in the combat phase. To simplify, you resolve beginning of the combat phase, attack twice, then start to choose units as you normally do, and since it's your turn, you go first choosing unit, and you attack twice with it if you have the CP. - Yes, you pop it after it has attacked. It's kind of funny because it shows how long the battletome schedules takes, because it's kinda like a doppleganger cloak, and that one got nerfed to once per battle. Edited February 12, 2019 by Kairos Tejedestinos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Mhm. I guess I‘ll always play at least 2 archregents. The 2 spells per regent are just too good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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