ClockworkGeo91 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 hour ago, RuneBrush said: I've half-written a debrief of my games (doing it from a very dodgy memory!) Ah sorry, didn't see it. I'll have a look. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuneBrush Posted August 7, 2018 Author Share Posted August 7, 2018 30 minutes ago, ClockworkGeo91 said: Ah sorry, didn't see it. I'll have a look. Thank you Haven't put it up yet in fairness I tend to write any long posts in word so that I get a proper view on grammar and spelling! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konradduncan Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Hello everyone, I would like to create an army of death, I have the AOS base box 2.0 , and a "Vampire Lord On Zombie Dragon", could you help me make a list? I was thinking of starting with about 1250 points, and then increasing it to 2000 ( hello Nagash). Something like this? LEADERS Vampire Lord On Zombie Dragon (440) - General - Deathlance & Shield & Chalice Guardian of Souls with Nightmare Lantern (140) Spirit Torment (120) Necromancer (110)UNITS 40 x Skeleton Warriors (280) -Ancient Blades 20 x Chainrasp Horde (160) TOTAL: 1250/1250 EXTRA COMMAND POINTS: 0 WOUNDS: 89 LEADERS: 4/4 BATTLELINES: 2 (2+) BEHEMOTHS: 1/2 ARTILLERY: 0/2 ARTEFACTS: 0/1 ALLIES: 0/200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekmeister Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Hello all, I have a friend who really wants to start AoS. He loves winning and his dream is to use Nagash. I had a conversation with him about how Nagash is a great lead singer, but he still needs the rest of the band to put on a show! He's asked me to put together a list for him, but I have never played death, so I'm not sure if it's as decent as it seems to me. The primary aim is to make a 1k list that can win on a good day and put up a fight on a bad day, with a secondary aim of it being a 1k list that transfers easily into 2K. I'll post the list and explain my reasoning below. Allegiance: Grand Host of Nagash Leaders: Vampire Lord on Zombie Dragon - General - Aura of Ages Wight King with Black Axe - Balefire Lantern Units: 10 Grave Guard with great wight blades 2 Morghast Archai with halberds 5 Dire Wolves This comes to 1k exactly. Aura of Ages and Balefire Lantern protect his heroes (the core of a death army if my research is on point), and putting the artefact on the wight king means he has an easier time scoring points for objectives; as many battleplans count either a wizard or a hero with an artefact for the sake of determining victory, so he may as well split them up. From this he can get Nagash and another box of both the grave guard and morghasts for 2k - shelving the wight king and wolves to make room for the big boys. As far as troops are concerned; dire wolves are just there to be bubblewrap, and grave guard are there to be targeted by the resurrection abilities of the graveyards and the vamp, since such abilities seem most cost effective when targeting elite, 1 wound models. All C+C is welcome, especially the budget friendly variety. P.S: On 8/8/2018 at 9:01 AM, konradduncan said: ARTEFACTS: 0/1 My friend, every army gets at least one artefact! And a command trait! Feel free to copy the ones I listed above as they seem like a pretty effective combination to keep your vamp safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Rekmeister said: He loves winning and his dream is to use Nagash. Sooo if he wants to play the one hat to end all hats ... 1k: Nagash, 5/5/5 Wolves 980... 1,5k: Nagash, 10 wolves, 2x2harbringer, vampirelord 2k: Nagash, 5/5/5 wolves, 4harbringer, vampirelord, necromancer, 40 Skellis...1950 not overly competitive if your opponent is able to deal with big N... but fun and all the other models have their uses in a variety of different lists. Things to write on wishlists: vamp-lord on dragon 40 skellis A mortarch-box malign sorcery box for a new player I would really suggest starting with 750-1000 points to get the feel for the game and the most comfortable style. I have not used any of the new nighthaunt, not really my style, but the really have good options with the chainrasp horde or the grimghast reapers... Edited August 12, 2018 by Honk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teuchter Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Dreamed up this list today. Bit concerned with how many points are spent on heroes but it just seems pretty tasty. Nagash Neferata Necromancer 40x Skellies 30x Chainrasp Horde 5x Dire Wolves Spell Portal 1950 points Idea is to make Nagash immune to rend and if it doesnt look like the skellies are going to be removed in the game use the extra command point on Neferata's command ability to make the ultimate attrition force, which definatley packs a punch! Also there's an option to drop the 30 chainrasps and the spell portal and swap in 40 more skeletons and take shackles for 1950 points again. or Drop the chainrasps to 20 take and extra unit of Dire Wolves and take the shackles. Interested to hear your thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 On 8/12/2018 at 11:01 AM, Rekmeister said: about how Nagash is a great lead singer Don’t want to be rude, but come on, really?! Yes, he does sing, but his real might was shown at the bass guitar... 6 hours ago, Teuchter said: Interested to hear your thoughts. Well, try it. Not sure if a big hero is the right thing for a Nagash list, you’ll always struggle to claim objectives. Also I fear you will struggle to get all the command points you‘ll want. Big Ns command ability rules supreme, armywide mystic shield and more. Maybe neferatas 400 points are better spend elsewhere, but I haven’t tried the combination yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MortalRealmMike Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Been having some success with this list. Nagash Necro Cairn Wraith 30 Grim Reapers 40 Chainrasps 2 Morghasts 5 Wolves Spell Portal Comes to 1950 for extra command point. I know.... no Skeletons, but Rasps are harder to take apart. They dont deteriorate as much as skeletons and have decent damage output with Nagash buffs. People seem to be down on Morgasts due to non summonable, but that extra attack and being battleline is hard to pass up. They are a great hammer, and a decent distraction opposite the big guy. People tend to ignore the Cairn Wraith, but he packs a small punch and another hero is required to spread deathless minions. With the right relic such as the Sword of Judgement, this little guy could end up being quite a surprise. I could maybe drop 10 Rasps to fit in a Lord Executioner, but i think 40 is a good number. In the end, just trying to think outside the box a little.... Plus the army looks great all painted up with the new units. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MałyKocoń Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) Thought about similar kind of list! What is VHD? Some you said that you always take skeletons, VHD, and grimghasts! Vhordai? Allegiance: Grand Host of NagashNagash Supreme Lord Of The Undead (800)- GeneralNecromancer (110)- Artefact: Balefire Lantern 40 x Chainrasp Horde (280)5 x Dire Wolves (60)2 x Morghast Archai (220)- Spirit Halberds30 x Grimghast Reapers (360)Umbral Spellportal (60)Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (40)Total: 1930 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 113 Quote Dreamed up this list today. Bit concerned with how many points are spent on heroes but it just seems pretty tasty. Nagash Neferata Necromancer 40x Skellies 30x Chainrasp Horde 5x Dire Wolves Spell Portal 1950 points I think you lack combat power! The greates strenght is Neferata aura! Edited August 28, 2018 by MałyKocoń Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teuchter Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 hour ago, MałyKocoń said: Thought about similar kind of list! What is VHD? Some you said that you always take skeletons, VHD, and grimghasts! Vhordai? I am assuming it stands for Vanhel's Danse Macabre, a necromancers warscroll spell which makes a summonable unit able to pile in and attack twice in your next combat phase. 1 hour ago, MałyKocoń said: I think you lack combat power! The greates strenght is Neferata aura! I agree. I have gone off the list to be honest. It was a bit of a Eureka moment followed by the relisation as I played it out in my head that 400 points is a lot to spend on making Nagash immune to rend. Nefferata isn't up to much without her command ability. Looking at this list now and will try it out tonight. Grand Host of Nagash: VLoZD (General, Lord of Nagashazzir, Etheral Amulet, Vile Transferance) Neferata (Overwhelming Dread) Necromancer (Fadind Vigor) VL ((Flying, Amaranthine Orb) too much fun on a 9+ cast) 40x Skellies (Spears) 30x Chainrasps 5x Dire Wolves 2x Morghast Harbingers (Spirit Halbreds) Then im not sure if i want to use cogs or another unit of Dogs for 1950... I will decide on the drive home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanHammer-darren Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 If your gonna run nagash AND morghasts you might as well run first battallion and make nagash that much harder to kill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teuchter Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/28/2018 at 4:02 PM, Teuchter said: I am assuming it stands for Vanhel's Danse Macabre, a necromancers warscroll spell which makes a summonable unit able to pile in and attack twice in your next combat phase. I agree. I have gone off the list to be honest. It was a bit of a Eureka moment followed by the relisation as I played it out in my head that 400 points is a lot to spend on making Nagash immune to rend. Nefferata isn't up to much without her command ability. Looking at this list now and will try it out tonight. Grand Host of Nagash: VLoZD (General, Lord of Nagashazzir, Etheral Amulet, Vile Transferance) Neferata (Overwhelming Dread) Necromancer (Fadind Vigor) VL ((Flying, Amaranthine Orb) too much fun on a 9+ cast) 40x Skellies (Spears) 30x Chainrasps 5x Dire Wolves 2x Morghast Harbingers (Spirit Halbreds) Then im not sure if i want to use cogs or another unit of Dogs for 1950... I will decide on the drive home. Played it last night against an objectively super competitive Daughters of Khaine list and player. Felt pretty good, however a few serious misplays by me in hindsight cost me the game. Also this DoK list puts out a serious number of attacks, I cant even imagine what it would have done to me without Neferatas Command ability giving them minus 1 to hit. Had minus 2 on morathi but she was still just chewing through me! However I have decided to paint up my Nagash: Nagash, Necro, VL (Flying) 30 Grimghasts 40 Skellies 10 Chainrasps 2x5 Dire Wolves Spell Portal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 19 hours ago, CanHammer-darren said: might as well run first battallion It’s 160 points... that’s a pretty solid price tag. And you need a bunch of supplementary units. But : Comes with an extra CP and you‘ll need it to run your 10 strong skellis to somewhere interesting. Really suffers from low body count and slow footslogging. also, instead of being able to run 2x2 harbringer separately away from big N, they’ll all have to stay in one big murderball... devastating but no board control whatsoever Edited August 29, 2018 by Honk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teuchter Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Not tried the first cohort, but honestly I am not too tempted to either. If i did I think it would change it up a little. Nagash Necro 2x Archai 2x 40 Skellies 1x 10 Skellies First Cohort Spell Portal 1990 Gives you more board control and Nagash does not need 4 morghast to make a deathball. He is a death ball already! Ill give my new list a try with the Grimghast which look like they will be pretty sweet. going to do a few weeks of list tinkering before my next event, then get a few weeks of "no changes to the list" practice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneedlewoods Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) Ignore this one. :-D Edited August 30, 2018 by Sneedlewoods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogypies Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 With the earlier talk about 1k Nagash lists you have the obvious weakness of no real objective holding, I'd like to lose a question. I'm participating in. 1k doubles with my partner being ironjawz running maw krusha , 6 pigs 10 boys a warchanter and pendulum. Now I have 1 k to play around with and was thinking the big N himself, with the aforementioned allies do people think nagash /dire/dire would be a decent choice to play alongside this? Realm rules would be in effect for extra free spells and endless spells are shared between team mates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 6 hours ago, Moogypies said: would be a decent choice to play alongside this? Depends on your overall goals... to have fun, yes, just go for it, especially when going against 2 other „friends“ who are not getting salty. played Nagash at 2k first cohort, and at 1,5k, he is always fun to bring and can take as good as he dished out. You two really need to have a plan for objectives, but Nagash with 10 puppies grabbing one, 5 on watch/flanking duty... you should be allright. Strong melee or nurgle grind might just hardcounter you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flufee02 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 hi not sure where to post it but i cant find a decent LoN group anywhere but here i just got into AoS and got a Malign portents box, nighthaunt from soulwars, 20 Direwolves, the Grand alliance death battleforce, Nagash, and a box of skellies currently im thinking of my 2k list to be Nagash, 30 skellies, 3x5 Direwolves,2 Morghasts, Arkhan,20 Chainwrasps and an umbral spell portal hows this list for you guys? also, i have a couple questions What spells do you give nagash? do i need more wizards for him to take spells or is this fine? is arkhan worth it or are other mortarchs better? if i can choose a realm spell which do i take? most importantly, how do you keep Nagash alive? do u play him far away? does he ever go into combat?, what buffs do u give him to make him survivable sorry for the bomb of questions, really excited to start but i cant find a place to ask no one in my FLGS has LoN yet so internets my answer :)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 So first of all, you did the right thing, joining GA:Death. Nagash is pleased, from here on life/undeath is peachy... just build your models and mush them into a list and start playing, the competitive side of AoS will come in time afterwards. playing big N is very straight forward and might be a bit tricky scoring points. You give him vile transference, overwhelming dread and since Arkhan is there soul harvest(9“ mw Aura spam with 5+ regen). That should regenerate him pretty fast. Nagash is not really fit for heavy close combat, so you need to watch his flanks and prevent countercharges. He can and has to punch some faces to reclaim his points, but spirit of durthu and things like that can cripple him pretty fast. Same goes for heavy shooting, he does carry a big hit me first sign...maybe first cohort then, if local meta is shooty first addition might be a necromancer, skellis with van hels are pretty good. arkhan is good, other mortarchs kinda fail against the vlozd in points/performance especially playing realm rules with ethereal cloak and some generals ability... first rule: enjoy the Rest is kinda trial and error ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teuchter Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 To build on Honk's point I think Arkhan is the best fit for a mortarch with Nagash. His command ability can be really great to extend the range of spells, just watch out with him. He is super easy to kill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 (edited) Aaaand as icing on the cake, within 18“ they know each other’s spells... as well as from all other death wizzards. So both could hand of dust, both could soulsteal or CoY... and both can reroll deathly invocation ( for max 9 units...) madness for 1120 points... I would recommend 5 wolves and 2x40 skellis with a necro and a spellportal for 1910 an extra command point and a triumph. I don’t play nighthaunt, so I have no idea if 30 grimghast or chainrasp thingies with a second wolfsquad is an option Edited September 6, 2018 by Honk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Peanut Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 We have a small tournament coming up and I want to try the following list: Allegiance: Grand Host of NagashMortal Realm: ShyishLeadersNagash Supreme Lord Of The Undead (800)- General- Lores of the Dead Spell 1: Overwhelming Dread (Deathmages)- Lores of the Dead Spell 2: Fading Vigour (Deathmages)- Lores of the Dead Spell 3: Amaranthine Orb (Vampires)Necromancer (110)- Artefact: Ossific Diadem - Lore of the Deathmages: DecrepifyVampire Lord (140)- Mount: Flying Horror- Lore of the Vampires: Vile TransferenceBattleline40 x Skeleton Warriors (280)- Ancient Spears10 x Dire Wolves (120)4 x Morghast Archai (440)- Spirit HalberdsEndless SpellsUmbral Spellportal (60)Total: 1950 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 110 I already played with Grimghast and 2x40 skellis but I just like the Morghasts models and was looking to fit them in an army. What do you think about that list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCar09 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 In some games with 4 or 6 objectives ... Riskyº Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravinsild Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 I’ve brought forth a completely different kind of list: going for a speedy list that’s very aggressive. Moving 10” forward for my Skeletons and Graveguard, 11” for my Morghasts and 16” for my Black Knights I should be able to close the distance easily. The spell portal is to help my necromancers still remain capable of casting VHD and supporting whilst not having to keep up since they removed the mounted option. I also gain a flat +1 attack for my Deathrattle for my command trait, or I could choose the ability to re-roll charges. I picked the Mortis Engine, Vampire Lord and a defensive artifact to keep my fragile 5 wound hero alive through heals, hopefully, in addition to providing support to make casting spells easier and more attacks respectively. It should be fairly easy to drop Cogs turn 1 and get everyone stuck in ASAP then set up spell portal for debuffs or VHD. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone run a list like this before, but to me it feels like my 2nd main army: The Ironjawz with an Ironfist Battalion! Depending on what I want to do I can get Black Knights with 20 attacks 3/3/-/2, plus another 20 4/5/-/1 then possibly VHD, which should put a clinic on anything they rush. Grave Guard on the other hand can be putting out 40 attacks 3/3/-1/1 with a chance for double damage, and another 40 with VHD. My Skeletons of course will just be nasty, at least the big 40 man block, putting out probably 100 attacks on average. A maximum of 200 and 400 if VHD. The Morghasts as well can get up to 10 at 3/3/-2/3, Which is pretty deadly all things considered. Up to 30 damage if a miracle happens. With several threats and almost everything able to be regenerated via Graveyards, Deathly Invocations and lucky rolls on Legions Innumerable it will be difficult to displace or kill anything between my healing network. Thoughts on such a list? Allegiance: Grand Host of NagashMortal Realm: GhurLeadersWight King with Baleful Tomb Blade(120)- General- Mount: Steed- Trait: Lord of Nagashizzar - Artefact: Gryph-feather Charm Wight King with Black Axe (120)- Artefact: Tomb BladeVampire Lord (140)- Mount: Flying Horror- Lore of the Vampires: Vile TransferenceNecromancer (110)- Lore of the Deathmages: Fading VigourNecromancer (110)- Lore of the Deathmages: Overwhelming DreadBattleline40 x Skeleton Warriors (280)- Ancient Blades10 x Skeleton Warriors (80)- Ancient Blades10 x Skeleton Warriors (80)- Ancient Blades10 x Grave Guard (160)- Great Wight BladesUnits5 x Black Knights (120)2 x Morghast Harbingers (220)- Spirit HalberdsBehemothsMortis Engine (180)BattalionsDeathmarch (160)Endless SpellsChronomantic Cogs (60)Umbral Spellportal (60)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 129 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 9 hours ago, Hot Peanut said: What do you think about that list. I would switch spells around a bit, to secure more healing with Big N. Maybe he should get VT and the vamp the orb. As said before, objective grabbing will hard, so you have to play pretty aggressive. portal-hod combo is strong, but I really like necro on vortex better. Casting OD and van hels while having +1 save just feels right to me... with the morghast I like the fast harbringer more, but if your meta is mw heavy, the extra save may be needed. 6 hours ago, Ravinsild said: Thoughts on such a list? Fresh new take, really digging it. March and cogs makes them bones quick again. As said above, like the vortex more than the portal, but whatever... Best of luck to both of you!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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