Elves are the best Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Hey guys are khorgoraths good in groups of three and four. I’m thinking off building my army around start collecting boxes so I would have a good few of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salyx Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) You can field them in units of 3 or 4. However, they only have Leadership 6, so if you Lose one, you might Lose another and that unit is almost gone. Especially, if the enemy has some - Leadership, they will easily fall apart. Moreover, if the Khorgoraths heal, the whole unit only heals one wound. That is why they are much better off as Single models. Single models can heal one wound wach, excessive damage does Not Transfer to the next Khorgorath and they are easy Blood Tithe. So rather use 3-4 Single Khorgorath than one unit of 4. Edited October 1, 2020 by Salyx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent of Chaos Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 @Salyx all valid points. The flip side is that a big unit can receive buffs easier (hello skullfiend tribe) and if you have a hero nearby with a CP then battle shock wont be an issue. But the healing, damage spillover and bloodtithe are all considerations for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 9 hours ago, Agent of Chaos said: The flip side is that a big unit can receive buffs easier (hello skullfiend tribe) Actually, the beauty of the Skullfiend command is that it affects all units of Khorgies within range. I only realised this fairly recently myself... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elves are the best Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I think I might try 2 units of 2 in the skull battalion. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonhammerstorm Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Hi Just got into AOS during the pandemic. Just finished painting my start collecting box of Bloodbound Warband. Decided that I really enjoyed the Lore and asthetic so I have pledged myself to the blood god and am now on the path of skulls. Yesterday I purchased a blood thirster kit, Skabrand, 2 slaughter priests, a Box of bloodreavers a, a box of wrathmongers and a box of bloodletters for summoning. Ok. Now what else do I need to buy next to comfortably generate a few compettitive lists other then 2 more bloodthirsters. Happy to buy StD and paint it red. Eventually ill end up buying at least one of everything because im just a sucker like that. But in order of usefullness what are the next purchases you suggest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praecautus Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Get some flesh hounds to summon Are you wanting to go mortal or daemon or mix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonhammerstorm Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 14 hours ago, Praecautus said: Get some flesh hounds to summon Are you wanting to go mortal or daemon or mix? I want to be able to run mortals. Also in maybe another list run a bunch of blood thirsters. I do not really care about bloodletters or other little deamons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonhammerstorm Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Noob question Generally speaking, what are better Wrathmongers or Bonereapers? If I buy 2x boxes should I build 1 of each or 2 of the same type? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praecautus Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Bonhammerstorm said: Noob question Generally speaking, what are better Wrathmongers or Bonereapers? If I buy 2x boxes should I build 1 of each or 2 of the same type? Both are great units. Skull reapers are one of the best mortal damage dealing units and will butcher hordes. wrathmongers are great assault troops and attack buff source. They work very well with Skarr bloodwrath You can build both units from one box, you just need some spare legs eg from easy build blood warriors or some such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praecautus Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Bonhammerstorm said: I want to be able to run mortals. Also in maybe another list run a bunch of blood thirsters. I do not really care about bloodletters or other little deamons. A good start for a mortal list is a gorepilgrims build using the goretribe slaughterhost. It’s quite forgiving and relatively easy to get the pieces. a minimum build is 2 priests blood secrator reavers 2x10 blood warriors 1x5 This is cheapish and gets your battleline and support pieces down in 1 drop. The trick w Khorne is multiple small units so you can rack up the tithe so generally taking units at their min size is best and most efficient for us. On top of this you will need some real hammer units. Mortal options include Skull reapers - 2x5 is good A beat stick hero - our best options are Khorne marked lord on krakadrak and manticore lord armed w lance and sword. Give either hew the foe and gorecleaver on their main weapon and you have a real beat stick. Get the blood blessings - skulls and axe are good. Skulls will give a magic heavy army a real problem - hello lumineth. Axe is just a mean damage dealer Get the alter for your priests Uou will need something speedy to grab objectives and or react to threats. Chaos knights look interesting for us now - especially w lord on krakadrak or lord on daemon Mount. Daemon Prince is usually fun, but he is more of a support piece now. His command ability will really mess with fast charging armies For summons 10-20 bloodletters max, 5-10 hounds. Rest is pretty situational but try not to fall into the trap of saving up for a thirster. A mortal list really needs good tithe use to be effective and hogging it all for 1 model is usually not a good idea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feii Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) On 10/4/2020 at 3:55 PM, Praecautus said: A good start for a mortal list is a gorepilgrims build using the goretribe slaughterhost. It’s quite forgiving and relatively easy to get the pieces. Quote You seem really knowledgeable, wanted to ask which battalions would you recommend? or what is the meta and what is their composition? How many bloodthirsters should I have in the army and in the summoning tithe pool? Edited October 5, 2020 by Feii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praecautus Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Feii said: I only play mortals so can’t really comment on thirster builds. In terms of mortals the best battalions avoid having units close to a squishy hero or putting too many leaders you don’t want into your list. So ones like gorepilgrims, dark feast and slaughterborn are my favourites. gorepilgrim is great, good buff as well as battleline and 3 or 4 heros you will want to take in 1 drop. dark feast is cheap and brings in your battleline and a priest. It synergises well with expensive low count builds eg thirster builds slaughterborn is good fun especially if you like skullreapers. It makes them harder to kill. The exalted deathbringer can become a powerhouse if built right. The big spear one can get over 10 attacks w his MW spear. if playing mortals you will need 1 thirster maximum for summoning. He is not worth being in the list on his own in a mortal list. too squishy and expensive plus bring a nothing to a mortal army Edited October 5, 2020 by Praecautus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feii Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Praecautus said: I only play mortals so can’t really comment on thirster builds. In terms of mortals the best battalions avoid having units close to a squishy hero or putting too many leaders you don’t want into your list. So ones like gorepilgrims, dark feast and slaughterborn are my favourites. gorepilgrim is great, good buff as well as battleline and 3 or 4 heros you will want to take in 1 drop. dark feast is cheap and brings in your battleline and a priest. It synergises well with expensive low count builds eg thirster builds slaughterborn is good fun especially if you like skullreapers. It makes them harder to kill. The exalted deathbringer can become a powerhouse if built right. The big spear one can get over 10 attacks w his MW spear. if playing mortals you will need 1 thirster maximum for summoning. He is not worth being in the list on his own in a mortal list. too squishy and expensive plus bring a nothing to a mortal army may I ask you what is your current competitive list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll.exe Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 On 10/5/2020 at 12:54 AM, Bonhammerstorm said: I want to be able to run mortals. Also in maybe another list run a bunch of blood thirsters. I do not really care about bloodletters or other little deamons. For the daemon list you’ll want 3x5 flesh hounds for battleline (You can swap this out for gore pilgrims to get your drops down as mentioned above) They get reroll 1s to hit from the bloodthirsters and you’ll have 3-4 of those providing that buff so it’s worthwhile. They also make good units to summon because of the reroll charge on the warscroll, so you have a good chance of getting them into combat on the same turn. Get 3 bloodthirster kits plus Skarbrand and make one of each, they’re all viable apart from the exalted greater daemon of khorne. Tyrants of blood is the go to daemon battalion. Take 3-4 bloodthirsters at 2k points. It’s worth noting that you can modify the attack characteristic of Skarbrands Carnage axe to 3. If you buff him with wrathmongers and a bloodsecrator then double attack with “Leave none alive” from the Reapers of Vengeance Slaughterhost, you’ll pump out more damage then anything else in AoS When you combine tyrants of blood with reapers of vengance you can chain all 4 bloodthirster attacks back to back then double attack with the last one. Also consider Archaon for daemon lists. He can double attack with Reapers of Vengeance. He is also a mortal so you can reroll wounds with a bloodstoker. Plenty of options for variation there. I’ll be here all day at this rate so I’ll leave it at that for now. Any questions about daemons I’m happy to help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feii Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 6 hours ago, Troll.exe said: For the daemon list you’ll want 3x5 flesh hounds for battleline (You can swap this out for gore pilgrims to get your drops down as mentioned above) They get reroll 1s to hit from the bloodthirsters and you’ll have 3-4 of those providing that buff so it’s worthwhile. They also make good units to summon because of the reroll charge on the warscroll, so you have a good chance of getting them into combat on the same turn. Get 3 bloodthirster kits plus Skarbrand and make one of each, they’re all viable apart from the exalted greater daemon of khorne. Tyrants of blood is the go to daemon battalion. Take 3-4 bloodthirsters at 2k points. It’s worth noting that you can modify the attack characteristic of Skarbrands Carnage axe to 3. If you buff him with wrathmongers and a bloodsecrator then double attack with “Leave none alive” from the Reapers of Vengeance Slaughterhost, you’ll pump out more damage then anything else in AoS When you combine tyrants of blood with reapers of vengance you can chain all 4 bloodthirster attacks back to back then double attack with the last one. Also consider Archaon for daemon lists. He can double attack with Reapers of Vengeance. He is also a mortal so you can reroll wounds with a bloodstoker. Plenty of options for variation there. I’ll be here all day at this rate so I’ll leave it at that for now. Any questions about daemons I’m happy to help. thanks for your eager response I was just more looking for the summoning tithe m,odels I need if I choose to build normal human khorne lists. I just prefer the human berserker flavours! + I would be able to practice flesh painting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praecautus Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 20 hours ago, Feii said: may I ask you what is your current competitive list? First off I am not a competitive player, I just play at a club with a competitive mindset. Second I have not played Sigmar for months due to lockdown. Before lockdown I was playing gorepilgrims in goretide and was generally doing well. Struggled against the top tier armies eg Slaanesh and bonereapers. Plus w changed in GHB2020 I need to rebuild my list. I am planning to build around Slave knights w Khorne mark. I am still refining the list but it will include Lord on daemon Mount Priest or 2 Blood secrator 15 chaos warriors 10 knights w lances 2x5 knights w ensorc weapons some reavers or marauders warshrine skull reapers skulls alter darkfeast battalion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchleuderMann2 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Can You tell me exactly what your Archaon List is? would be really interested in a full buffed double attacking archaon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogarrah Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 On 10/3/2020 at 1:54 PM, Bonhammerstorm said: Hi Just got into AOS during the pandemic. Just finished painting my start collecting box of Bloodbound Warband. Decided that I really enjoyed the Lore and asthetic so I have pledged myself to the blood god and am now on the path of skulls. Yesterday I purchased a blood thirster kit, Skabrand, 2 slaughter priests, a Box of bloodreavers a, a box of wrathmongers and a box of bloodletters for summoning. Ok. Now what else do I need to buy next to comfortably generate a few compettitive lists other then 2 more bloodthirsters. Happy to buy StD and paint it red. Eventually ill end up buying at least one of everything because im just a sucker like that. But in order of usefullness what are the next purchases you suggest. Glad to hear you've started a Khorne army. For your next steps, I would get a box or two of skullreapers, they're one of our best blendy units and don't require any buffs to do some serious damage. I would also get a box of the Judgements of Khorne, they look sick, the Hexgorger Skulls are devastating in todays meta and the Wrath Axe can put out some serious damage. Mighty skullcrushers are fun, especially in Brass Stampede, but they're a little too pricey Blood Warriors suck don't get any more than you need to StD, especially with the new battletome has a TON of great options for a Khorne army. Standouts include the Daemon Prince, he's not as good offensively after GW got rid of the realm artefacts in GH20 but he still packs some punch and his CA is BRUTAL Chaos Warshrine is fantastic if you're force has a significant portion of StD, but not that useful otherwise Chaos Lord on Karkadrak can deal a ridiculous amount of damage in the Goretide slaughterhost if he's your general, the Hew the Foe CT gives him +1 damage on all his weapons and he has A LOT. He also serves to buff Chaos Knights (we'll get to them later) Mounted Chaos Lord and the regular Chaos lord don't provide as much damage, but the mounted lord can buff your knights like the karkadrak and the regular lord can make an StD unit fight twice Chaos Marauders see a lot of use, they're a great horde unit that can really do some damage with the proper buffs, and their 25mm base size and optionial 2" weapons allows you to take them in large units (they're basically what bloodreavers should be) Chaos Knights are also great, they're fast and can provide insane damage output with their cursed lances and the proper buffs on the charge Chaos Chosen are... not great but not terrible either The Varanguard are too expensive to see much use In general, mortal lists rely on putting a ridiculous amount of buffs on units that usually can't stand very well on their own through battalions. For competitive mortal lists, the bloodstoker, bloodsecrator and at least 2 slaughterpriests are pretty much auto includes, and the 1-2 remaining hero slots are usually filled with an StD hero like the DP or one of the Chaos Lords (usually the Karkadrak) Goretide sees the most use for mortal slaughterhosts, unless you're running a lot of Khorgoraths, if you whip a unit of bloodreavers and then use the goretide CA, you can shoot them across the board 20" + 2d6 For battalions, Gore Pilgrims is an auto include, Dark Feast is popular for MSU bloodreaver lists, Brass Stampede is decent, and Skulltake sees some use, but the units it's comprised of are very expensive. Anyway, that's about it, I'll be glad to answer any questions you might have. Until next time! (Just realized I didn't rank them in order of usefullness, but I gave a decent explanation for each one so we should be good) 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AresX8 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 @ogarrah Keep in mind that mounts aren't affected by command traits, so only the Karkadrak Lord's Hexed Battleaxe and Daemonblade would be affected by Hew the Foe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feii Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 How would you improve this list? Allegiance: Khorne Slaughterhost: Goretide Leaders Skullgrinder (General) (80) Command Trait: Hew the Foe Artefact: Gorecleaver Korghos Khul (180) Bloodsecrator (120) Artefact: Thronebreaker’s Torc Skarr Bloodwrath(100) Slaughterpriest (100) Blessing of Khorne: Killing Frenzy Battleline 5x Blood Warriors (100) 5x Blood Warriors (100) 5x Blood Warriors (100) 5x Flesh Hounds (100) 5x Flesh Hounds (100) Battalion The Bloodforged (120) Other 5x Wrathmongers (140) 5x Wrathmongers (140) 5x Wrathmongers (140) 5x Wrathmongers (140) Karanak (140) Judgments of Khorne Wrath Axe (40) Hexgorger Skulls (40) Scenery Skull Altar (0) Total Points: 2000/2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogarrah Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Feii said: How would you improve this list? I've always wanted to try skullgrinder with gore cleaver and hew the foe, I think that could be a lot of fun. To get the most out of this list, I would axe Korghos Khul, his 8" pile in is fun but he's WAY to expensive to justify using him. In his stead I would add another slaughterpriest and get the gore pilgrims battalion, it's pretty much an auto include for Khorne armies as its buffs are GREAT I would drop all the blood warriors you don't need except for the minimum sized unit required for Gore Pilgrims and bloodforged, they really suck and they're too expensive Karanak is fun, I like flesh hounds and I adore Hex-Gorger Skulls and the wrath axe isn't bad Here's my improved version of this list: Allegiance: Khorne- Slaughterhost: The GoretideBloodsecrator (120)Karanak (140)Skarr Bloodwrath (100)Slaughterpriest (100)Slaughterpriest (100)Skullgrinder (80)5 x Blood Warriors (100)- Goreaxes5 x Blood Warriors (100)- Goreaxes5 x Flesh Hounds (100)5 x Flesh Hounds (100)10 x Bloodreavers (70)- Reaver Blades5 x Wrathmongers (140)5 x Wrathmongers (140)5 x Wrathmongers (140)5 x Wrathmongers (140)Gore Pilgrims (140)Bloodforged (120)Hexgorger Skulls (40)Total: 1970 / 2000Extra Command Points: 2Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 142 Here's how I would make this list, it keeps all the core components of your original list while improving it to get the most out of. I couldn't fit in space for the wrath axe because hex gorger skulls are crucial in todays magic heavy meta you have space for 3 artefacts, one of which must be thronebreakers torc, which must be put on the bloodsecrator. I would put brazen rune on a slaughterpriest and gorecleaver on the skullgrinder. One thing I noticed is that this list lacks MW output so it might struggle against armies like OBR, and I think you might struggle to cap objectives because wrahtmongers are kinda slow, but if you use the doggos and you're bloodreaver unit properly you might be able to make it work. Overall I think this is a fun list and I'd like to hear how it does in the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarband Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Hi i need advice with 1250 list on my ecalation league(i loved skullcrushers) this is my proposition Allegiance: Khorne - Mortal Realm: Ghur - Slaughterhost: The Goretide LEADERS Bloodsecrator (120) - General - Command Trait: Hew the Foe - Artefact: Thronebreaker's Torc Bloodstoker (80) Slaughterpriest (100) - Blood Blessing: Killing Frenzy Slaughterpriest (100) - Blood Blessing: Bronzed Flesh UNITS 6 x Mighty Skullcrushers (320) - Bloodglaives 6 x Mighty Skullcrushers (320) - Bloodglaives 20 x Bloodreavers (140) - Meatripper Axes 10 x Bloodreavers (70) - Meatripper Axes TOTAL: 1250/2000 WOUNDS: 112 LEADERS: 4/6 BATTLELINES: 4 (3+) BEHEMOTHS: 0/4 ARTILLERY: 0/4 ARTEFACTS: 1/1 ENDLESS SPELLS: 0/3 ALLIES: 0/400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogarrah Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 23 hours ago, Skarband said: Hi i need advice with 1250 list on my ecalation league(i loved skullcrushers) this is my proposition Looks like a fun list, I only have a few minor tweaks 1. Don't make the Bloodsecrator you're general, Hew the Foe is pretty much wasted on him because A. He should almost never be in combat and B. His weapon sucks, you don't really have a decent beatstick hero in this list, so I would make the Bloodstoker your general so he can get hew the foe, with his 2 weapons he'll be a little scarier in combat. If you do want a cheap beatstick hero I would take out the Bloodstoker, take a skull grinder and give Hew the Foe to him. 2. Skullcrushers aren't battleline unless you have a juggerlord as your general, which means you only have 2 battleline now. This is fine because it segways nicely into point #3 3. Never take more than 10 bloodreavers in a unit. A. They have big bases and 1" reach on their weapons, meaning you'll struggle to get 20 all piled in. B. They die like flies no matter what unit size you take them in C. More units, more Bloodtithe D. Splitting up your unit of 20 guarantees you fulfill your league's battleline requirements (A 1250 point limit is in that squishy zone for battleline requirements) 4. Other than those tweaks, I think this list looks like a ton of fun, and I'd like to hear how it does in the future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hystarion Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Hello guys, I participated in 16 people tournament this weekend. Lists were varied, but with some really tough ones. I'm really glad I finished 6th with 2 wins, 1 lose, as it was my 2nd tournament ever, I mostly play for fun with a few friends. There goes my list : Spoiler Allegiance: Khorne - Mortal Realm: Chamon - Slaughterhost: The Goretide LEADERS Slaves to Darkness Daemon Prince (210) - General - Command Trait: Hew the Foe - Axe - Artefact: The Crimson Crown Bloodsecrator (120) - Artefact: Thronebreaker's Torc Bloodstoker (80) Slaughterpriest with Bloodbathed Axe (100) Slaughterpriest - Blood Blessing: Bronzed Flesh Slaughterpriest with Hackblade and Wrath-hammer (100) Slaughterpriest - Blood Blessing: Killing Frenzy Exalted Deathbringer with Impaling Spear (80) UNITS 5 x Skullreapers (180) - Goreslick Blades 5 x Skullreapers (180) - Goreslick Blades 5 x Skullreapers (180) - Goreslick Blades 5 x Blood Warriors (100) - Goreaxe & Gorefist 5 x Blood Warriors (100) - Goreaxe & Gorefist 5 x Blood Warriors (100) - Goreaxe & Gorefist 5 x Wrathmongers (140) BATTALIONS Slaughterborn (170) ENDLESS SPELLS / TERRAIN / COMMAND POINTS Extra Command Point (50) Hexgorger Skulls (40) Wrath-Axe (60) TOTAL: 1990/2000 WOUNDS: 125 LEADERS: 6/6 BATTLELINES: 3 (3+) BEHEMOTHS: 0/4 ARTILLERY: 0/4 First game was Better part of Valor against an OBR with katakros, 2 catapults and a 40-mortek pack of doom. We only had 3 battlelines each, so it was about killing enemy lines first. I manage to burn objectives and score enough VP with my bloodwarriors before the catas were able to obliterate them. The daemon prince tried to interfere with them, but I didn't realize how resilient they are. But I guess he did a pretty good job distracting them and so protecting my BW for 2 shooting phases. I won the game because my skullreapers and priests managed to do enough MW to get rid of the mortek pack before my opponent could score. I didn't even try to hurt katakros. 2nd game was against a nurgle mixed demons/mortal army with 3 GUOs and bel'akor, on the total engagement scenario. First of all, I was very lucky with my judgments out all the time and a lot of MW from the priests. He failed a lot of castings because of my Anti-magic Shield System©, but still manage to kill most of my heroes with geminids and rotigus spell. In the end, I won with a muderlust BT trick in 4th turn that allowed the last remaining WM to escape Rotigus and steal the objective! Fun fact, the daemon prince killed bel'akor and then avoided 2 charges from GUOs thanks to bloods lock ground (he rolled 3 and 4 on 3" charges 😂) Last game (the one I lost) was against a very good tzeench player, playing a duplicitous army with 40 pinks and a Duke on places of arcane power. This one was very hard, he used a lot of movement control tricks and locked down a big chunk of my army for the first 2 turns. I guess he didn't realize khorne can have such a damage output that I removed all the pinks very fast and I stole 2 of the 3 objectives by turn 2. In the end, we didn't have time to finish the game but the blues still on the table were killing my heroes and my prince didn't manage to kill his duke. So even if i gave a good fight, the game was lost. So thinking about all this, my first feedback was that 3x5 Skullreapers is amazing and a real threat against most units. But you kind of fall short against big single model. The daemon prince with "whipped to fury" and "bronzed flesh" is an amazing hunter but if he doesn't manage to kill his target quickly enough, he can be overwhelmed fast. I don't know if crimson crown was a good choice as i fought 3 very defensive armies, and i think khorne mortal is probably one of the most aggressive army in the game. Maybe i'd have another point of view if i'd played BCR or ID. So i think i'll try him again with a more aggressive artefact or the torc. Slaughterborn was good against OBR, but useless against Tzeench or Nurgle as they don't have rend. But i still have the feeling that in can be really usefull in a lot of match-ups. I think i'll play this list again as it was really fun and i had the outsider effect against 2 top tier armies. Anyway the whole day was great, and my adversaries were all really nice people with beautifully painted armies and great lists. What advices could you give me ? Looking forward for next tournament ! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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